He? His? Please Mr Questioner - Morrissey does have a name you know. I find your not using his name much ruder than the word in question!

It really doesn't matter one inch to me if Morrissey uses the word 'shit', so long as it serves some purpose. It is a currency of our everyday language and in the context of the song it expresses the intensity of his disgust at the things he's experience - I think it is an appropriate use of the word.

He would not be the first artist who you would not immediately expect to use this sort of language to do so, cf:

Johnny Cash - 'Cocaine Blues' (from 1967!!!) - "I can't forget the day I shot that bad bitch down"
About a guy who takes cocaine and ends up shooting his girlfriend, thus landing "99 years" in Folsom Prison. The use of "bitch" tells us about the state of mind of the protagonist and his remorselessness, probably as a result of cocaine use.

Warren Zevon - 'My Shit's Fucked Up' - "Let me break it to you son, your shit's fucked up". About a man who finds out from his doctor that he's seriously ill. The use of this language adds a dimension of black humour to the song.

Both of these songs, and Morrissey's song also, use these words to express the intensity of the emotion - its not like hip-hop where it sometimes seems gratuitous (but even then you could argue that it's a mark of authenticity since its the language of the street).

well I think it's shit...

Where's the "I love it" option?

Do people still get offended by the word shit? The only thing wrong with swear words is the way people can’t seem to cope with them!
They teach men to drop bombs on people but their controllers forbid them to write fuck on their planes because it is obscene.
Freedom of speech that’s what I preach,

Morrissey is only 44/45 years old, how could he know such profanity?! this is an outrage!!! somebody better wash his mouth out for this one!

That's the strangest question. Why would anyone be offended or think it's 'unsuitable' for Morrissey? I think it's the best lyric I've heard from YATQ yet.

New pole immediately please because this one is going to be 98% 'Don't Care'.

seriously, how long did that take to come up with?
What a stupid, boring, pointless, rubbish question, and more to the point, what the bloody hell am I doing wasting my time answering it.christ, its so true what people say about morrissey fans...........idiot

well if morrissey can use " fuck " ( i.e Tony the pony ) then why would there be a problem with shit :)

all words are fair game, as far as i'm concerned.

This question can only have been written by a fucking septic tank yank. No-one outside the United States of Puritan America could have come up with such a dull and pointless poll.

personally, it's neither here nor there BUT i think he's letting himself down.

he, with such a publicly expressed hatred of common vulgarity, resorts to foul language. in a way, it discredits his work as a literary songwriter and is SCREAMING for attention...

...but aren't we all?

I think will agree that it adds to the passion of the song.

Its'a great song. Perhaps, dare I say, the best of the new batch? Can't wait to hear it on the album!

And, really, who cares? If Moz's next album contians lines about fucking ho's and 'bling bling' referecnes, well then I may have some concerns. :)

he says it in 'The World Is Full Of Crashing Bores' also...so two shits for the price of one...value indeed!!

It's crap I know

Shit....And yeah - where's the "I think it's great/refreshing" option?

How about :
When do you think Morrissey will release his autobiography ?

I thought the use of the word was very common and ordinary, very..uhmmm Blink 182-ish. Morrissey is far more gifted. But more disturbing was reading the lyric sheet to "America is Not the World." Leave the politics in that song - or take them out - it doesn't matter: the song is dumb! (and horribly written).

But I LOVE LOVE LOVE "Come Back to Camden," a song that is beautiful and hits on Morrissey's best and most sincere theme: isolation. The song reminds me of Morrissey before he went to L.A. to have his soul and talent whored out to the West Coast.

Haven't heard the song yet, but I think it's something different. Something interesting.

The inclusion of this terrible word will probably mean that the LP will be plastered with "Parental advisory" stickers in America. You know what they're like - hypocritical puritanical poltroons.

Remeber in the Suede cover "My insatiable one". The lyrics are: "On the escalator we shit paracetamol"

When would we have heard this song? It's not been released yet, has it? Surely, this poll wasn't written for the handful of people who attended one of the 6 tour dates in any of two states of one single country.

He sang the word when he covered the Suede tune...BIG FUCKING DEAL!!!!!!!!!!

this poll needs to have more choices:

i like it. it makes sense. 'my faced dragged through seven miles of poo poo.' doesn't work.

He's a passionate kinda guy. I've not heard the song yet, but I'm sure it fits.

To the person who submitted this question - GO AWAY!

He sings in Tony the Pony that "There's a free ride on Fucked up Tony" -- This isnt the first time he has cursed in a song.

Morrissey uses the same word in this song, so its neither as shocking or new as the poll makes out, personally it doesn't bother me.

disappointed that he couldn't find any other word to rhyme with "shit"

I am very very dissapointed with Morrissey's latest lyrics. I find them stupid, inappropriate and, as in the case we are discussing here, vulgar.

There's is nothing wrong with the word "shit", but it just doesn't fit in a Morrissey song.

On another note, I just wanted to add that I hated IBEH. And this is because of the production. I knew this Finn guy was going to blow it.

I bet you don't see any discussions of this nature on any Eminem messageboards!

Shit is actually in the dictionary.

And why the sudden hoo-haa? Morrissey uses 'pigshit' in Crashing Bores...

Don't think this is one of the best songs on Quarry though (lyrically or musically).

He should use the word 'shite'. It's more English and oddly wetter!

The word "shit" is much older than the 1800s, appearing in its earliest form, before 1,000 A.D., as the Old English verb scitan. They all derive from the Indo-European root skei-, meaning "to cut" or "to split." For most of its history "shit" was spelled "shite" (and sometimes still is, euphemistically), but the modern spelling of the word can be found in texts dating as far back as the mid-1700s. It most certainly did not originate as an acronym.

So in my honest opinion it's a word just like any other. I don't believe I've just researched that...:-/

I like the line about having his face dragged through 15 miles of shit... but the best he could come up with was "and i don't like it" ???

If he said he liked it.. It would have been a better lyric.

Ooh, wow! Morrissey says 'shit'. Ahhhh! If shit was the best word he could think of then it was the best word he could think of, and it IS a word!!! If he wants to use it, why shouldn't he? A word is there to be used and to put one beyond the realm of an artist - any artist - because it makes you feel uncomfortable shows that you are clueless, narrow-minded prudes. Art should be concealed from you in anticipation of your moronic analyses. Were you the children at school who did exactly as the teacher said, always followed instructions perfectly and got full marks? The same children who don't understand the important people around them who try and break free from constraints and create something exciting? I'm not even talking about Morrissey saying 'shit' anymore; I just want you to think that in the end we're all going to die and even what we hope to leave behind will one day be wiped out by an ice age (or the sun engulfing the earth, whichever you prefer). So stop worrying about words that make you scowl, table manners that aren't up to your standards or behaviour that looks to fun to be agreeable. Stop living your lives by nonsensical rules that have been embedded into you, and that ultimately mean nothing. Stop trying to dictate someone's art to them by those rules and start looking at what purpose those rules are actually ever going to serve. How can you possibly deam yourselves to be intelligent, thoughtful people with any sort of cultural knowledge if you judge without thinking and have such fixed ideas about what is and what isn't acceptable. You'll all die stupid fools unless you open your mind. Morrissey doesn't say shit, does he? Well he clearly does now, so acknowledge it and get used to it. And when you've done that... shit off.

I would like to shit all over the stupid ass who came up with this poll and just wasted 10 minutes of my life reading what everyone thinks about Morrissey saying shit. You suck

I'm not surprised with the use of vulgarity at all, although it seems to be a lot more common in the songs in Quarry than most of his other material.

I was just listening to a recording of the Hamilton, Ontario concert from 2000. After "I Can Have Both, someone in the audience says something like Hi, or something that sounds like pie. Morrissey responds..."Pie?...You don't mean apple pie do you...you mean c**t!" It's on there clear as day!

bad language is used to give a point, which mozz does in every song he writes... its a powerful word.... i want to hear FUCK!

I haven't heard the song, but if the word fits, than shits, it works...if it goes with the passion of the other lyrics then it works, taken out of context, in the way this poll does, it sounds a bit crass, but that's only because it's taken out of context...until this poll question was created, I don't think it would have even been thought about...there are lots of "dumb" words that aren't "curse words", so to pull "shit" out of your ass and ask if it's a quality lyric, well that's shit and I think that is a pretty good way of suming up this poll question...in the context of explaining my thoughts of this poll question, shit is definately the best word to sum it up...so this poll question was chosen over my poll question concerning my concerns of the jerry finn influence? I hope this poll doesn't stay posted for a long time, with all that's going on with Moz right now, we could be debating some better shit than the usage of the world shit in the stanza of one song...

there has never been more interesting stuff going on in the world of Morrissey and we have been given the dullest, most pointless poll imaginable.
what a load of shit!

Moz has never been one to use pointless bad language in his songs and I am glad he doesn't eff and blind all the time because it would detract from his art. However, you can't complain if he chucks in the occasional profanity. 'HCAPKHIF' is a great song, one of the best on the album and that line "I've had my face dragged through fifteen miles of shit, And I do not, and I do not, and I do not, like it" is a great lyric and is magnificently delivered. The disparaging pronunciation of the word 'shit' and the vocal inflection on the final "I do not like it" is set against the chopping guitars is the best single line of vocals I have heard since, well I can't remember.

As a testament to the quality and catchiness of the song, I would have 'HCAPKHIF', shortlisted as a potential single, along with other candidates '...Crashing Bores', 'The First of he Gang...' and '...Camden'. Perhaps 'You Know I Couldn't Last' and 'I Have Forgiven Jesus' are outside bets. Releasing 'I Have Forgiven Jesus' would be like a follow up to 'Satan Rejected My Soul' (I always thought that song should have been called 'Jesus Rejected My Soul').

Just one question, does the use of the word 'shit' in 'HCAPKHIF' and also '...Crashing Bores' mean they will likely not be released as singles in the UK. Can you get away with 'shit' in a single these days or would the word have to be changed?

the writer of the poll is just being smart with the 'how does that male you feel' thing. I have a question for morrissey obsessives, did he swear in any smiths songs?

he said bastard in the headmatser ritual. who careS?

Wel I just watched an hour long cookery programme on channel 4 with Gordon Ramsey, who spent the time saying fuck this, that and you. Fucking stupid bastard. Fuck.
Shit's really a bit tame these days isn't it?

Don't read lyrics teasers and have not yet been to a show from this new tour.

of course icare- it's Morrissey- but idon't mind the use of profanity. ibelieve that where it is warranted [juste like any other form/type of speech] profanity can be very effective.

anyone who thinks otherwise can go... nah, not warranted.

Which swear word would you like to hear in Morrissey's next song? I would actually prefer hearing the use of 'dick'.

What a stupid poll. Shit is a word. Why shouldn't he use it if the word fits what he's trying to say?

Anyone getting offended over that needs to get a life....That's a lame poll question anyway....

i'm shocked by anything that goes out of george w bush's mouth everyday, not by anything the mozzer says. anyway, he sang it before live, many times, years ago, when he covered 'my insatiable one' by suede. don't remember any pointing fingers then - as everyone joined the church of the holy name???

Is somebody somewhere REALLY so vexed about this issue that they have to raise it here?

What is the point of the question? Does the contributor take offence at Morrissey's use of the word 'shit', or at his profanity in general? 'Shit' is one of the lesser profanities that Morrissey has used. There was 'bastards' in The Heamaster Ritual, 'crap' in Death At Ones Elbow, 'arse' in Frankly Mr Shankly and in He Knows I'd Love To See Him, 'fucked' in Tony The Pony, 'balls' in Thats Entertainment(okay it's not his lyrics but he still uses it), and 'shag' in the live versions of Disappointed from some of the Kill Uncle tour bootlegs("All you friends and your foes//Would rather die//Than ever have to shag you".)

has anyone read the preface of the comment section? why are you all "anonymously" complaining about the selection of questions for the polls? is it perhaps that you have already suggested the intelligent ones? just wondering :)

appropriately,

swearing is the cool thing to do. right? c'mon guys, right? If swearing doesn't matter at all then why couldn't he be creative enough to make up his own 'swear' word? Maybe Moz should've used something like kunk or blazow instead!

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same thing, no?

Well, there are 2 uses of the word 'shit' on the new album and 4% are offended.
Don't think Moz has much to worry about really.
Regards,
FWD

the first time morrissey cursed was on tony the pony and now he's doing it on the new album. i really don't think cursing is needed in music but hey if you wanna get your point across then do it.