From observation.

'Doll' from DATK does not have the 'charisma' of which many may speak. Great voice but she can be heard on several occassions to comment on how important it is for their audience to purchase their CD/album.
This is a hallmark of no confidence in the thought 'Doll' does not believe enough in herself or the band, that they will ever be signed up to a record deal.
I enjoyed DATK but they do not quite attract me enough to purchase an album and definitely not to buy a ticket to see a live show.
And of the Albert Hall, well am afraid you play the Albert Hall and forget your shoes? And then to hop about the RAH stage as though it were your bedroom?
No.
Am afraid not.
People are passionate about music and seeing a show live - musicians and artists have to be equally passionate and serious about their presentation.
If not . . . oblivion calls.

Boy oh boy, does Moz like his Liverpool girls or what! I'm one Moz????? How about me???

give me a break? they are average
nothing special about them at all

Not only never so happy than when they are complaining and criticising Moz, but also never so happy than when they are spewing mean-spirited crap in that nasty, arrogant tone.

Compared to the horrors of Kristeen Young, DATK did a fine job and Morrissey praises Hannah. So what? Can't we just leave it at that? Why does every news story have to descend into an orgy of spitefulness? You people need to get a life if this sort of thing makes you feel good about yourselves.

To kiss my ass.

What a bunch of pompous dickheads.
Where's your album, then?

Oh yeah. That's what I thought. You haven't got one.

I, for one, quite like Doll and the Kicks.
I also *GASP* like Kristeen Young.

Spew your venom at yourselves, haters.
It's obviously yourselves that you loathe the most.

I don't hate Morrissey or anything and want to slag him off, but i do disagree with him, this is just my opinion;
when they were opening for m i got really bored with them, there songs just sounded the same,
there was nothing distinctively different between the songs at all, and just nothing too the songs in general.
and her voice did nothing for me, it wasn't shit but not the way he's talking.

lugged KRISTENYOUNG around with him for 2 years.

you just know he did.

I for one think she's sort of like a real Madrid (CR7 era). She's got a look to attract people in, but cannot please. BTW, just MY opinion. i believe people are entitled to their opinions, so just because yours is a 180 from mine gives one no reason to lay one in to me.

BUT. I honestly think that Doll&Kicks is nothing special. I see too much of other bands and not enough Doll&kicks. I understand, not much room for originality these days, but what sets apart good bands to me, is this: Sure, there will be influences and/or sound-a-likes listening to a band, but the difference between being very great or not is YOUR input as a band to ADD to that. Also in the way you mix around your influences. if you just straight rip off a melody of rhythm, get out. But if you bend an obviously influential riff or melody, turn them inside out and add your flavor on the matter...then fair play to you. You just took and influence and recreated your vision on an influence. And that is something this band does not do, sorry.

-go Pusifer!

I had a look on Flickr what they are up to and could hardly believe my eye when I saw her wear a fur coat! Ten minutes ago. Then decided to post the link to the picture here, but cannot find it anymore. :( It was under recent.

Don't tell me that meat dresses and fur coats are some PETA statement against animal cruelty, because it is not. I have been a vegetarian for 20+ years and would never, ever wear a meat dress or fur coat. It makes me feel as if I have to throw up when I see this. I became a vegetarian because I do not want to eat animals and not because I wanted to impress a celeb. The best statement against eating and wearing animals is by example by living well eating other things and dressing well without animal skin.

Such a great band and major thanks to Moz for introducing them to me haha .. to be honest most of the music Moz goes in for I'm not a fan of besides Sparks and Elvis I guess. But he was right on with DATK .. had their album and live album shipped across here to Australia and hopefully will get the chance to see them some time. They're incredibly friendly and chat a lot on twitter and facebook too when you ask them questions.

criticising Morrissey's mention of the fabulous Hannah Scanlon, but nobody seems to be proposing a better candidate for the best new British singer epithet.

Roisin? Shirley? Charlotte Church?

There are so many crap bands about, Doll And the kicks are not one of them.Saw Doll And The Kicks twice when they supported Morrissey.Thought they were brilliant.The Albums great.At the time i thought they had something different. There is something about them.Top band.I agree with Moz.
Still play and love their album.Don't listen to some people on this web site.They just wanna slag famous people and bands off just for the sake of it.Even if they are brilliant.

her voice is AWFUL. that's not singing.....
they're a poor man's no doubt....and i'm not a no doubt fan in the first place.
you can see hannah's desperation. she has resorted to wearing skimpy clothing and flirting with the audience because there is nothing original about her and she has no talent.

... cause he likes her!
Doll and the Kicks are AWESOME!!!

It is ridiculous and has to be the stupidest name for a band.

slagging off DATK and, by implication, Morrissey's selection? What a pathetic waste of time, and what empty lives some people must have if they honestly think this is worthwhile endeavor.

My apologies to any fans out there, but Doll is a completely unoriginal piece of work. Either they think that it's CBGBs circa 1979 or Brooklyn circa 1999. Why oh why do these new, young British bands keep regurgitating American punk over and over (and over) again? Boring. Is it really that hard for the younguns of Britain to think of something original? And what's worse, an original British artist, Morrissey, promotes them. He hates the Arctic Monkeys but loves Doll? That's like hating Coke but loving Pepsi - a difference without a difference.

Has anyone really ever listened to her...I think Moz should be hailing her... her voice is like noone out there.. and GIAC's music is like nothing out there. which is why people dont know what to do with them. They love them and hate them and are confused by them. Latinas and gay and not barbie dolls and i think 20 yrs from now.. they will have their own site with people debating over their interest. i think they are that important.

I find kristeenyoung far more original and interesting and talented than doll and the shitz.

Sounds a bit like Siouxsie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VGkeRPO9c0 [youtube.com]

..I'd fuck er', can't blame the ol' Moz, he likes having acolytes...

She is absolutely horrific! One cannot help but feel she is a subspecies by the way she looks and the way she sings.Now I see why when my baby saw her sing, she ponted to her and screamed "mommy mommy Nooooo

SelFull

I'm not interested in your flagrantly arrogant comments on my opinions.
This is my opinion, if you feel offened by it so much to write an essay on how 'wrong' and judgemental I am, I pity you because you have the clear inability to realise each person has their own view.
And you are nobody to berate such.

Dylan was being ironic, if he wasnt its about time he was.
Muzac today is shite
All following badly what went before
We now have regurgitations of tainted love
oh please

irene

I've grown to like pretty much all the music Moz swings our way, especially when he is able to bring them to us live:

Phranc
Sack
Jaguares (well, ok, he opened for them and I recall was pretty well received ;)
Kristeen Young
Girl in a Coma
Red Cortez
Courteeners
Doll and the Kicks

They all write their own music, have singers with a great belt to their voice and sing with their heart & soul, and are powerful performers.

As are all the bands above, Doll and the Kicks are a great bunch and are thankfully not shy with their talent. They are absolutely fun to watch and some of the ballads on special nights have even brought me to tears.

Everyone doesn't have to like them or hate them just because of this article or others who've already made up their minds. But I would suggest that if you haven't seen them yet, give them a chance and check them out for yourself.

Cheers,

Herro, me chinese, so me not big fan morrisey, but me finkin dat he is not right here , me finkin dat dis lady is not velly good at all, she am sound like animal in pain and dat not velly nice for hear i dont fink, unless animal is in China in circus makin happy dancing. Me go now fank you bye.

Hannah Scanlon's voice reminds me, mainly at the begining of Skeleton Siouxsie Sioux's voice. Maybe that's why the Man adored so much Hannah's voice.

Well the fact is !!! ALL jealousy and Moz fans are just too much !! i think they even hate Moz too....and as a support they are great and they do a lot for their music...and the music world is a hard world but they can not help it that MORRISSEY LIKES THEM !!!! very good i love it !!!

I reckon someone's mis-heard Moz. I think he said it was actually Hannah Montanna that he's really crazy about. Yep, sounds about right.
Either that or that DATK bird has nicked Moz's wheels and won't give em back until he's praised her.

and trhe bass player is ACE. rock and roll brighton!

If I had known that not reacting to them on stage would have been interpreted as liking them, I'd have brought a few tomatoes with me. And this Kirsteen Young also claims that nobody ever booed her and that it is unfair that anonymous write that they disliked her music? I read little positive about her and cannot say that I like her music either. So when Morrissey gets a bottle thrown at his head there is an uproar but if people are civilized enough to not boo and throw rotten tomatoes then it means that they love what is presented to them? Errr, no.

All a matter of taste. I thought DATK were one of the best support bands he's had in recent years. Infinitely superior to the dire Kristeen Young and Damien Dempsey. 'If You Care' and 'Roll Up The Red Carpet' are great, catchy pop songs, and Hannah is incredibly charismatic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkejnDpjdEs

I do not think the

'POP Socks, no shoes and hot pants'

were very attractive at the RAH.

No true 'Punk - ess' would wear - 'POP Socks'.

You sad, sad little twat. You are seriously making a big deal over what you perceive to have been "a bitchy look"? And this is evidence of what exactly? And what precisely is a "bitchy look" ffs? People misinterpret "looks" every moment of every day - but suddenly you're Desmond Morris, are you? Fuck off, you clown.

Have you ever studied any psychology, and read about 'projection' and 'transference'?

It's really presumptous (and self-defeating, really) to read into other ppl's thoughts, emotions and reactions etc. Even if you know them very well.

A few examples of scenarios you probably haven't yet considered but are perfectly possible alternatives to your "She gave me evils!' might be:

-She was daydreaming, and thinking about a time when she was angry/pissed off at something, and looked at you. This happens to me quite alot, and I have frequent afterthoughts along the lines of "Oh, I hope that stranger didn't think I was scowling at THEM!"

-(using a more text book psychological instance) you reminded her very literally of someone who was bad to her in her past, and she reacted to that memory

-she was in physical pain with a migraine, flu, an injury etc, which leads to the wider point of, you might have misinterpreted her look;

It's not unusual for me to not know whether someone is laughing or crying, if they have an ambiguous laugh/cry. I'm not autistic, I'd say I'm very sensitive to the moods of others, and I have a very great interest in human emotion etc. To say "I know that's an arrogant look" about someone you don't know, is silly- in fact it's arrogant (hah! projection) because you simply don't know that. That might be how their face NATURALLY is! That might be their thinking face. That might be their "Oh fudge, I've just started my period and I hope no one is watching" face.

It's my life ambition to give up on trying to attribute my own thoughts and ideas to other ppl. It's a big task, but to the degree that I've succeeded, I've become more peaceful. And truthful/accurate. And insightful (into my own thought processes, if not the possible thought processes of others).

The 'daddy's girl' comment is more obviously loaded (and really- is it not received wisdom that sons love their mums and daughters love their dads? Is that really what you want to pick on?) what exactly are you gleaning that observation from? Do you know the woman well? Are you friends with her family? Have you read her journal?

If the answer to those is no, then you're very definitely in the realms of projection and transference. Join the club, for so is the rest of our species :-). But you get more peace of mind, and offend others less, when you realise that's the case and can soothe yourself accordingly.

What I'm saying is- use your reason. Break down and deconstruct your own thoughts. You can't know she was thinking arrogant/bitchy thoughts about you. If she was, the reason was surely to do with her own 'shit' and not about you personally. Do you literally think she is having thoughts along the lines of "I am superior to you, I dislike you", and expressing them facially at you? If you go that far with your thinking, then fair enough thats one theory; and even that can have its sting taken out of it by remembering that all such arrogance is based on deep insecurity (and I believe all humans have that. Would you agree?). If you don't go that far, then use your will power to stop the thought that you were sleighted. I'm sure its not a pleasant thought. There's a good, and logical chance that it's not true, also.

Pardon me for writing such a long post dissecting your short post, but I very strongly believe that what you wrote demonstrates the unhappy consequences of unexamined thinking, and I strongly believe there's an alternative to being a slave to one's (pessimistic) thoughts.

All of these negative comments are so silly. DATK are a great band. Their live performances are top class and their debut album is really strong.