posted by davidt on Saturday February 13 2010, @01:00PM
Uncleskinny sends the link (originally posted in the forums):

Meat Is Murder Is 25 - Simon Goddard blog

Excerpt:

It would be uncharacteristically unsentimental of me not to pass comment on the fact that The Smiths’ second album, Meat Is Murder, was released a quarter of a century ago this week...
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Uncleskinny also mentions in the previous forums thread a link posted by Danny_:

Meat Is Murder Turns 25 - Stereogum

With contributions from:
Jamie Stewart, Xiu Xiu
Colin Meloy, The Decemberists
Frankie Rose, Frankie Rose & The Outs
Travis Egedy, Pictureplane
Zach Condon, Beirut
Andy MacFarlane, The Twilight Sad
Zac Pennington, Parenthetical Girls
Dean Spunt, No Age T Grave, Blessure Grave Drew Daniel, Matmos/Soft Pink Truth
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  • ...a fan's fan. Good luck to him!

    1. Well I Wonder = Agreed although I was still sad about the "wasted" HSIN? single.
    2. The Whistle Test feature = remember it well...Joyce on Congas!!
    3. The yodelling simply "threw me" after thinking I knew Morrissey's vocal style from The Smiths Album...lovely!
    4. Smiths v Springsteen...yep it actually happened!!
    5. The Title...kicked off the debate between my friends and I..."Are you?" "Should we?" "Are fish included?" "So it's two veg then...'spose I have to give the chops to me dad!"...A wave of Irish imigrants, raised on boiled bacon, fried sausages, pork chops, roast lamb etc explore a "new" concept!! This can only be achieved by the motivation of a genius.

    Nice one Simon...Nice one MOZ!!

    Sheridan
    Anonymous -- Saturday February 13 2010, @07:24PM (#349518)
  • great item (Score:2, Interesting)

    my all time favourite album, even above his solo
    albums, or other artists

    not a song on it, like the the person who posted above me, who you get tired

    it woud be nice if they had remastered the album,
    with a special live gig from the Meat is Murder tour, as bonus

    why do they decide to release it, it it just because of the drums? I'm talking about remastering the early Smiths songs, ot they may remaster everything if the sound stays as good
    the more you put up the volume.

    luckily the Dutch vinyl album does not include
    how soon is now, the original 1985, it was just
    added later when the song seem to be a live favourite, or the great John Peel [RIP] played it lots, which makes the circle

    thanks for 25 year of a musicgem album "meat is murder"
    Celibate Cry <[email protected]> -- Sunday February 14 2010, @01:33AM (#349523)
    (User #220 Info)
    and the hills are alive with celibate cries
    • Re:great item (Score:3, Interesting)

      yes well-written piece by SG, and I agree Meat Is Murder is (for me) the highpoint:

      - the title: I think it converted me before I'd heard the music. I believe it only took a documentary about abattoirs to convert Moz, and for me, already uneasy about meat, it just took someone to say it (no hindrance that that person already had me entranced). He just pressed a switch. I think many meat-eaters hate the thought of slaughter and do their best not think about it. By causing so many people to address their own unease, the title remains one of the bravest and most effective political acts by 'entertainers'

      - the opening barrage of "Headmaster Ritual": still sounds blinding and abandoned long before Moz sings anything, and alongside Hand In Glove, This Charming Man and How Soon Is Now, remains one of Marr's most original and spellbinding inventions

      - the unified theme of violence and cruelty, loneliness and vulnerability: cruelty by teachers on schoolkids, teens on each other, parents on children, humans on animals. I'm sceptical about the significance afforded pop albums as if they're symphonies - mostly they're just whatever songs a band can muster - but MIM's recurring ideas makes it more than the sum of its parts

      - contains "Well I Wonder"

      - that Second Album confidence. It said 'you know we're brilliant, you backed a winner, and now we can do anything'

      - The Smiths concluding the Meat Is Murder tour at the Albert Hall. If I ever felt I was in a revolution, it was that evening. Which might seem irrelevant and hysterical to anyone outside - but if that were true people wouldn't be discussing The Smiths now, publishing books, running courses, covering the songs, Moz wouldn't be national icon number 2 etc

      i can't imagine life without MIM, it's a visionary outsider document about late 20th Century Britain, if it hadn't happened it would have been like America failing to produce "The Velvet Underground & Nico"
      methadone -- Sunday February 14 2010, @11:56AM (#349540)
      (User #12826 Info)
    • Re:great item by Anonymous (Score:0) Sunday February 14 2010, @03:33PM
    • Re:great item by Anonymous (Score:0) Monday February 15 2010, @04:54AM
  • Life-changing (Score:3, Informative)

    In 1977, after seeing a rotting seagull carcass on a playing field, I made a momentous decision: I would no longer eat anything with legs, eyes or wings. I’d made the connection between living things and the ‘food’ on the plate. The carcass outside and the carcass on the kitchen table.

    I was 8 years old.

    Imagine the consternation of my parents as they wondered what to feed me? Mum hid bits of chicken in my mashed potato, tried telling me sausages were vegetables. It was no use, I’d got wise.
    Through the early 80’s vegetarianism was the preserve of hippies and middle class people, or so I thought. It was all lentils, tofu, men who looked like the guy out of the ‘Joy of Sex’ books, and sweaty sandals. Not for the likes of me, a boy who lived in a council house in Stretford.

    You couldn’t buy veggie ready meals, so I lived on a diet of beans and chips...which suited me fine.
    But the amount of trouble it caused me, that was another thing. My decision, which was I thought I gentle and peaceful one, provoked a violent reaction. It just added to my perceived ‘weirdness’, and another excuse to give me a kicking.

    I went to Stretford Grammar School (all boys, as it was then), and you were meant to be good at sports (by sports, this meant almost exclusively cricket and football), toe-the-line, not have any lefty views, not be good at art as that was ‘for puffs’...I was crap at footie and cricket (but could run like my life depended on it, which it often did), a bit of a loner, artistic...and of course, a dreaded vegetarian.
    I spent my early teens in my Stretford bedroom listening to Echo and The Bunnymen, Joy Division and anything jingly, jangly and introspective I could get my hands on; or whichever obscurity-knocks band John Peel was championing at the time. Music was my escape; a cliché I know. Then I heard a song called ‘Hand In Glove’ and it was by a band called The Smiths. I sort of fell in love...

    And then in February 1985 they released ‘MEAT IS MURDER’.

    This album felt like it was written for me and for me only. A personal message from the band, telling me it was all ok, I wasn’t alone. It was my life committed to vinyl…how did Morrissey know?
    It’s difficult to describe just what this album meant to me, a confused kid in his mid-teens. It made sense of my life and saved me from wallowing in loneliness. It was full of humour and light, it was real: it was dark and happy and sad. It made you laugh and cry. Put in the context of the miserable mid-80’s, when the Tories ruled and the charts was full of the pretty vacant, this was revolutionary. From start to finish it was complete and perfect to my ears. MEAT IS MURDER remains my favourite album (even though The Queen Is Dead’ and ‘Strangeways...’ are more polished and musically powerful; MEAT IS MURDER hit my life at the perfect time, like no other.)

    I got a ticket to see them perform live. It was the most thrilling night I’d ever had…a visceral, sexual experience. I was now a ‘disciple’ as Morrissey used to describe his fans: obsessed to the point of serious mental illness.

    It comes as a bit of a shock to find that it was 25 years ago. But it also makes me realise what a debt I owe to Morrissey, Marr, Rourke and Joyce, and let’s not forget Craig Gannon, whose contribution is too often overlooked.

    No band has matched The Smiths since, for me. They changed everything. And apart from a lapse in my late teens I’m still veggie and proud.

    MEAT IS MURDER!

    Damian Morgan, February 2010
    Damian -- Sunday February 14 2010, @05:15AM (#349530)
    (User #4459 Info | http://www.brave-music-agency.co.uk/)
    I'm not a social butterfly/just a moth/attracted to light
  • Where has the time gone? I remember when you could only find this on a record album. Then only on a tape. Then only on Import CD. I still have that one- the Import CD without 'How Soon Is Now?'. The CD is just fine without it. Great stuff! The Smiths should be in the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame!
    Anonymous -- Sunday February 14 2010, @10:40AM (#349539)
  • just a little fyi theres a book out called "meat is murder" by joe pernice. a nice fiction story whose highschool days revolved around this album a quick but interesting read and a must for for the dye hard fan
    nursejuju -- Sunday February 14 2010, @05:06PM (#349548)
    (User #23368 Info | http://juju-beanz.deviantart.com/)
    "does the body rule the mind or does the mind rule the body... i don't know"
  • lying devious bastards who its now proven have to nick innocent britains passports to instigate their beloved mossad what a joke
    when the world wakes to americas alliance with israel nothing is solved

    irene
    Anonymous -- Thursday February 18 2010, @06:43AM (#349609)
  • irene and teddy
    Anonymous -- Thursday February 18 2010, @07:29AM (#349614)
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