Who are these 2000 idiots who bought a bunch of songs they already have?

you wonder why were only half-ashamed?

I'm fed up with Moz bringing out the same old shit on every new CD. Thats why Moz fans are loosing interest in the gay old fool.

....for a catalog record that is not being"worked". It will be over 50,000 within a year. Don't forget "Maladjusted " only sold about 60,000 in the US.... Face it friends. We are now a small ,but dedicated,legion.

I know it's not official, and it's not even been a full week, but here is his Amazon ranking:

Wednesday 11/14/01: Amazon.com Sales Rank: 637

Friday 11/16/01: Amazon.com Sales Rank: 303

Damn.

Britney sold over 700K records and Moz sold less than 3K?

Damn.

I hope this is a lesson to you Moz. You can learn a lot from young Briteny, you know.
For example:

At the earliest convenience appear in public with an albino python wrapped around you. (Britney: "Its a penis, no I mean its a snake, I mean.."

Blonds sell records. Dye your hair blond, like when you were 13 years old.

Louisiana, not Manchester or Vienna is spawning today's most popular musicians. Move there.

When on tour focus more on Choreography & Dancing, and less on singing. You can do this by always Lip singing.

The innocent teenage girl who looks like a Saigon hooker look is in, lose the sullen English poet look, fast.

and the number one lesson you can learn from Britney Spears,

Release an alblum with NEW material on it!!!!!

I'm surprised the disc even sold that much! Honestly, people aren't as stupid as they look. No-one wants to have a CD with songs they already have on a dozen other discs renting space on their already over-crowded CD stands. But again, this story is old.
Morrissey please, release something new while I'm still young enough to get to the record shop without a walker.

I am a huge Morrissey fan but didn't buy this album. Why should I? I already own every song on it. He was stupid not to include some unreleased song or alternative versions on the disc. I would have bought it then if if it only included one new song. Morrissey just is terrible at marketing himself thesedays.

I think it really sucks when stuff like this happens. I think this is a time especially when all Moz fans should unite and show our love and respect for him. What's going on, people?
I know a lot of u probably don't want to buy because it's just a best of album, and u have the majority of the songs on other albums anyway. But look at how many albums he sold in the first week, and just look at how many people visit this site frequently! It shouldn't matter whether it's a compilation or not. The point is it's been quite a while since Moz released any cd at all, and we should support him all the way if we are true fans. A lot of people I have come across claim to be "true fans", but they're kidding themselves. Don't say it if u don't mean it. I bought the best of because i wanted to support Moz and make a nice addition to my collection, even though I have most of those songs already. But we have to look at it this way: A lot of us are eagerly awaiting new Moz material, right? Well, if we don't support him on this album, the Best of, then how can we possibly expect him to put out any new material if this one doesn't do well?!
VIVA MOZ!!!!!!

i LOVE Morrissey, but there's no way in hell he's getting one more dime out of me until he releases something new. Heck, I even would have paid good money for the shoddy mp3's that were leaked through the internet earlier this year if he would have put them on this latest 'best of'. Disappointed? Yes. Still a Morrissey fan? Of course. What are we all waiting for? ANYTHING NEW!!!

Rhino was probably testing the waters with MOZ. And based on first week sales they probably have him by the short and curlies when future negotiations commence for any new material. Its really too bad. MOZ should have submitted his demo tape long ago to MAVERICK when they requested it in the first place. But even then I'm afraid there wasn't much hope. Rumor hasit they were only interested in someone on their way up, not on their way down.
Oh well.

I think people are missing the point on this release.

I'm neither pleased or angry that the CD has come out. I have everything on it, so I have no need to buy it, but I don't have a problem with it existing. It is irrelevant to me.

Just because it says 'morrissey' on it, this doesn't mean it's aimed at or is in any way an insult to existing morrissey fans.

While I'm sure Rhino knows that a hardcore of people will buy anything with his name on it, both this and the recent Smiths best-of seem to me to be aimed at average rock fans to whom this stuff never appealed at the time, but who now, seeing that The Smiths and Morrissey have really stood the test of time and become more widely accepted as 'classic', might be interested in getting an album for their collection. To back up my claim: the Smiths 'best of' appears in an ad alongside the Beatles '1' compilation and a handful of others in a recent MOJO magazine.

Quite why anyone on this site is worrying / bothering about these best-of releases is beyond me. If you want them, buy them; if you don't, then what more is there to discuss?

I agree with one of the above posts that I would have bought this record had it included a new song, just one new song. The Cure just came out with a greatest hits Cd, and I was thinking to myself "what the hell? It's all songs that they've released over and over and over again." but I bought it because they actually included two new songs on it. They went and recorded two new songs just for the record. They also went in and recorded all of the songs acoustic and included it as a limited edition Cd. So they got my money because those 2 songs plus the other CD of acoustic songs was something I didn't have. There are other artists out there other than the Cure that have done this (included rare or new songs) as well. I don't know what the record company was thinking considering there was already a best of Moz Cd out there called Suedehead. And knowing that Moz fans are very loyal, we would all own every CD/Record that he has put out and made our own best of records. So this record is really a let down. I will probably still end up buying it, not for the music, but for the booklet. And that's $16. that I'll be paying for an interview. But that's how starved I am for new Moz. Do us a favor and stop ripping off the fans and put out something new. and while you're at it, put out a new DVD with the rest of the videos that weren't included on the Oy Esteban. Damn.

man i want to go buy the cd the frist day it just that all u guys trun trendy man u guy are all gay well all those people who talking shit if u dont go be on the worlds nuts man u guy are gay

      Morrissey Rocks!!!

I went to WareHouse on the day it came out and it was in his old music groups. The list of the new music never had the Cure's CD and Morrissey's Cd. I told them and they (the workers that are into mindless rap crap) so they said, "oh, who the hell is that?". So I told them to just put the bloodly Cd on the new releases, they said that they will, but a day later I went to see if it was up, but they still didn't have it.

Well as someone else has just said - who want's to buy an album of songs you've got at least 3 times!!? - come on Record Companys!!, listen to what Morrissey sang with The Smiths "Paint A Vulgar Picture!!!"

Of course, speaking as a collector, I am one of those 2,420 who went out that week (Tuesday) and bought a copy of the latest release from Morrissey.

Yes, I know I already had all the songs, but it's not about the songs anymore. It's the whole packaging, the artwork, the pressed cd. This is why I believe MP3 will never replace the cd format (in terms of sales). I love collecting anything and everything relating to Morrissey.

The semi-new photographs from Rankin is OK, some of these photos actually appeared on the photo book that came with the 12" version of Southpaw Grammar. For some reason, I thought the bathtub photo were from Linder's book, "Morrissey Shot". Wait, I can check... (well it doesn't appear in the book, but it is photographed by Linder Sterling.)

Of all the compiliations (Bona Drag, Suedehead - Best of Morrissey, World of Morrissey, My Early Bugarly Years, and The Best of Morrissey), I have to say that MEBY was probably the best one as it incorporated some b-sides and oddities and some fan's hits (plus a video for Sunny!). I think for the video alone, it would've been worth it. Unfortunately, Best of Morrissey really doesn't offer anything new.

I listened to the Best of Morrissey for a week after I bought it and, well, it's sort of nice to have all those songs on one cd.

Also, have anyone noticed that the original tracklisting for Best of Morrissey ended with "Disappointed" ? Truly truly truly.

What about the SOUTH WITH MORRISSEY DVD Morrissey stoled from us. That would of been an excellent gem and a great opportunity to market himself with a lead in to some new material, alas a grand album. But in return, we get a cd with songs we already own on previous releases. Some points of advice, suggestions and statements:

- I would love to see how the new Cure best of did in retrospect to Morrissey's best of. For I think Morrissey should of maybe put on a alternative 2nd disc with live recordings (like Blur's best of) or some acoustic versions (like Cure's best of). Face it, it helps the hype and marketing of the package. I had the chance to hear some of the acoustic songs of the Cure and they sound like crap to the originals. But it does sell the cd.

- Like suggested before, one unreleased song would have did wonders for this album. One little song that's it. Then the Rhino can then use that one song, put it on the cd, with accompany of a sticker on the cd cover, "Morrissey Best of.. with the never before song ...(fill in a title)" and there you go. Numbers go up.

- Again, the SOUTH WITH MORRISSEY dvd, that nobody seems to bring up anymore. That was a grand opportunity that Morrissey let pass. I don't care if he didn't grant permission, forgot to response to a status or WHATEVER. Morrissey should of paid a BIG deal of attention on this potential project. When I saw the cover of the DVD on this site, I was eager with excitement of this treasure. But alas, We may never see this great DVD, or okay DVD, nonetheless a NEW DVD. The point is, Morrissey should of worked this potential DVD with signings and what have you.

- Finally, if Morrissey has any new material in works, I'm sure he has a some in stock, then he needs to move quickly in preperations in planning his grand return to his loyal fans. For reading some of the recent postings and the finally this terrible chart placing of weak sales, some fans are growing tired and some for that matter, must of growned disenchanted and left. For no one bought this cd.

(I cross my fingers and hope that Morrissey will return us the favor of a SOUTH WITH MORRISSEY DVD and Morrissey next album, new material and new direction)

Moz Cowboy

How it sold even 2,420 is pure miracle. Morrissey should be so happy. Even Britney Spears is more culturally relevant than Morrissey nowadays. He should bury his head in a hold in the ground. At least Britney is sexy, with her "I'm a sex slave for you", and on her knees, sucking the collective dicks of her male fans on her first cover.

Am I the only person who just wants Morrissey to retire? Go out with a little dignity.

With all due respect, I let "World of Morrissey" slide, even "My Early Burglary Years" was ok. Both had tracks I didn't have, but both could have easily been released as one disk B-sides compilation without those other well-known tracks.
The only valid reason I see for another greatest hits (keep in mind, there's like four UK best of,)
is for newbie Morrissey fans state side to have a good disk to start with for their collection. Other than that for fans, it's worthless.

But I still luv da guy.
*_*

P.s. write sumthin'

I would not have known about the release
had I not come to this web site. I had to
go to three stores in order to find one that
stocked it (I found two copies the day at Best Buy; two locations of Borders didn't have it at all for the whole first week). And I didn't
notice any mentions in the mainstream media,
outside of the Boston Globe article linked
to here (that's not to say there wasn't any
mentions, I just didn't see them).

Someone mentioned Spears. When I went to Borders
to get the Morrrissey CD, I was confronted by
a life-size cardboard Spears, along with about
500 copies of her album stacked in a big display, I was forced to maneuver around to get into the music section of the store.

Marketing works. That's all music charts and
box office charts and so forth have ever proven.

LoafingOaf

Did anyone stop to consider, that Rhino was essentially covering their bases with the release of this album? That this Best of was not meant to shatter the charts at all, it was intended to exist. So that when the New Album comes out, with very strong material on it, people will go to the record store or web after hearing said new material and there they will find Rhino's compilation which is to the new fan, an extremely good collection of Morrissey's music.

I haven't bought it yet, and I doubt that I will. Morrissey, we all still love you, but it's getting pretty hard to understand you. You may be a rock and roll legend, but you don't make record companies any money. Take what deal you can get and release something new...

In some ways, the news that only 2,420 hardy souls bought this album is sad, as it shows the sharp decline of one of the best songwriters or all time. In others, it can only be good, preventing the greed of record labels cashing in even more.

One thing which baffles me is the fact that "The Best Of" was only released in America. Why? OK, maybe Morrissey's fan base has declined somewhat in Britain, but hell, he still has many fans. They'll still buy the stuff (as was proved with "The Very Best Of The Smiths", which, despite minimal publicity, debuted at #31).

Another interesting fact is that this website has roughly 4,000 registered members. OK, not all of them are from America, but hey, when you consider the amount of people coming on here and posting anonymously, saying that they bought the album, it means that quite a number of the registered members didn't buy it. I must say, I wouldn't have bought it even if it was readily available for release.

Hopefully, these figures will make Morrissey "shocked into shame to discover" that, quite frankly, his star is wavering. Pretty quickly as well. He really needs to get up off his arse and produce new material soon. He might not have a damn record label, but he shouldn't be sitting back waiting for it to come for him. He should be pestering these record labels, demanding an album deal at minimum.

OK, he may have nothing left to prove. He'll never score a #1 hit without having to employ some jazzed up dance movement to produce a catchy tune. He's already made albums both with a band (Meat Is Murder) and individually (Viva Hate) that have reached #1 at one side of the Atlantic or the other. But his fans are still loyal. That loyalty can wear ever so slightly thin though, with countless compilations and no new material.

You can't fob the fans off all the time with a case of "same old, same old", Morrissey. Give them what they want. An album with bloody new tracks!

Oh, and if one more person tries to quote "Paint A Vulgar Picture" associating with this situation, I'll scream...

Moz better release something new otherwise I will switch to listening to Def Leppard.
The sales figure for 'MoZ:Best of' was pretty funny considering the fact that Adrenelize by Def Leppard sold 2 million in its first week.
So I think the power of steel will continue to threaten and surpress Oscar Wilde.

Only 2420 albums sold? I mean even Cornershop have sold more albums then that.

I think moz should personally visit and have dinner with the fans that bought the cd on the first day. Just scan your receipt to him and he should show up on your door for thanksgiving.

Dave L.

The sales slump in my state can be easily explained, The day it came out none of the record stores in my entire state were carrying the CD, then i went back on friday and still none had any in stock. I was in Western, PA over the weekend and none of the stores in that area (including huge chain stores like Best Buy etc.) had the album in stock. In addition, the new They Might Be Giants EP came out two weeks ago and non of the stores are carrying it, aswell as the new r.e.m. or cure (*maybe a curse word on here) single. its a decline in the quality of record stores to blame in this area.

unless it's the UK. they like seeing material that has been released 20 times, and I'm not saying it to be mean coz it's the truth.

For pete's sake not everyone has all of his CD's in fact this is my first.i thought it would be a good starter and i was right i love the cd and it will be one of my "desert island" CD's.

Can anyone show me a single Rhino collection that HAS cracked the top 200? Rhino is a catalog company that never releases albums of newly recorded music. Their focus is to get greatest hit collections and unique compilations out for less mainstream artists, with almost no money being spent on marketing. They never push for chart success, but rather for steady and consistant catalog.Is this CD relevent for you as a Moz fan? Not really. This CD offers something to the casual fan who maybe used to be a Smiths fan but hasn't bought any of the more recent solo albums. This CD is for that person who "really thought that song Tomorrow was great", but really doesn't know that much about Morrissey. For this reason its good. Don't be so critical of Moz, this CD isn't being used to substitute or "set-up" a new release.This CD ain't for you,kiddies. It's hard to step out of our own obession to think that people can "kind of like" Morrissey, and just want a greatest hits record. If you buy it, great. I probably will buy it eventually, because I have everything else. I certainly don't feel in a rush to buy it the first week it is out.

A post here said a slump in sales was due to record stores just not carrying the disk. I'd have to agree. I've worked in larger record stores like HMV, Tower Records, Sam Goody, And Virgin Megastore. Honestly the majority of the buyers for the stores only order about one or two copies of the non-mainstream artists. They are interested in the quick profit that Britney Spears, Backstreet boys, or Limp Bizkit can muster. It's all about money, sadly not about art.

Why doesn't this surprise me. Oh lord. So everyone is too cool to go out and buy this cd. Whatever. You are all a bunch of lame ass fake "oh look at me I am so sad, I need moz in my life but won't buy his cd because I have all of those songs on other cd's. And it doesn't matter if I have to play 6 or 7 cd's just to hear all of these songs, but I still love him and would die if I ever met him!!!"

Whatever. Chumps. Lets follow the leader and agree that it is lame to buy a "best of" cd. We are MOZ fans (well not me anyways. I love hip hop) and we are just to f@#%&n cool to buy a "best of" cd from morrissey. How dare he insult us with such actions as to put out this kind of cd. HMMM...

Like I said, you guys are a bunch of retards to act the way you do. Why would he want to make new music if you don't want to buy a compilation of his music. Why the hell should he put out new stuff? Why do you go see him tour? Does he not play all of his "old" songs at his shows? What kind of shit is that. "Oh, lets not buy his cd because we already have the songs."

Whatever. You are all the reason why the underground will never progress. I hope he reads this s%@t and decides never to put out anything new again. You broke ass, stuck in the 80's cause it is cool now, messy hair, look at me i hate the world, morrissey saved my life, I like the smiths over morrissey just because it is cool to like older stuff, tight jeans wearin, fake rebel, confused ass chumps. Find a new leader.

I am glad I am not a "TRUE" fan or else I would have to boycott morrissey. Thank god, well. All I can say is for all you morrons that didn't buy the cd because you thought you were to cool to ever do such a thing. You missed out. But not to worry, you will slowly creep into your local record store and buy one. After all, what true fan buys a cd the day it is released?

well... ttfn!!!!!!!!!!

Well it sounds to me like Moz has got about 2400 new fans cos most should already have all the songs in this example. The poor sales hardly reflect the fan base this time.

please release something new instead of the back issues!im only 18 and havent had the privelige of walking into hmv on release day of a NEW album and feeling proud knowing the assistant knows im a morrissey fan!ive got every song you've done(like most people)so we need new material!!

Personally i'm tired of hearing everyone complain about the greatest hits. So nothing on it is new. Those who like it, great. Another addition to your collection. Those who don't like it, save yer money and get a sandwhich. Too much hostility here, iz bad. very bad.

Mozzer says he has an albums worth of material to record but is waiting for a record deal. Well! why doesnt he get off his arse get some money out of the bank and release it himself! For christs sake the guy must have millions in the bank.

Has anyone bought this CD? It has a lot of good songs and you also get a 2nd cd of acoustics.

I was fifteen when I first heard The Smiths. It was 1985 and up to that point my musical tastes were centered around bands like Van Halen and Motley Crue. I was at a party with my friends when a girl walked in wearing a “Meat Is Murder” tee shirt. I had no idea what it was, but being a shallow, hormonally driven teenager, I used it as an excuse to talk to her. By the end of the night, I had listened to The Smiths- “The Smiths” and “Meat Is Murder” at least twice each. I was hooked. The next day I was at Wax Trax Records in Denver buying everything Smiths related that I could get my hands on. The girl figured I was a fraud and just buying the stuff so she would like me. I lost the girl, but I had a new love in Morrissey that made it all o.k. That was sixteen years ago and for the most part, that still holds true. I found a girl crazy enough to agree to spend her life with me eight years ago and Morrissey is still a part of my everyday life. Of course, Morrissey doesn’t occupy nearly as much of time at 31 as he did at 15, but rarely does a day pass that I don’t put him on the stereo and smile.

        By this point you’re asking: what’s your point? Well, I’ll tell you. Lately when I visit this web site, I observe nothing but bickering and arguing over various aspects of Morrissey. I hear fans accusing other fans of not being true fans for not buying the latest compilation. I hear people bashing Morrissey for not releasing any new material. I see older fans bashing younger fans whose only fault seems to be the fact that they were born later than others. It is a sad state of affairs, indeed. To be fair, there are at least a few “mature minded” people here who simply appreciate Morrissey and make comments that seem to be relevant to what is going on in the world of Moz. I am not suggesting that the negative posters don’t have the right to voice their opinions, it just seems pointless.

    None of us own Morrissey. Not me, not you. The only human being Morrissey needs to answer to is Morrissey. Period. If he were to never sing another note, it would be his choice. He is no longer just a singer. Sometime in the mid-nineties, he transcended that label and became a cultural icon. How significant of an icon will only be shown in the hindsight of the future. Personally, I have no complaints with his body of work. How many bands can you name that have released as many albums that stand up to the test of time? Certainly there are a few, but for the most part, Morrissey has far exceeded the average life expectancy of a performer. [Especially a performer who got his start in the eighties.]

        Ease up on the hate is all I am saying here. Enjoy the music for what it is. It is entertainment. It makes you happy. It makes you want to sing out loud and dance around the room. The last time I checked, these were all good things. He will release a new record when he gets around to it. If and when that happens, I’m sure it will be beautiful. If he doesn’t, we have many, many wonderful songs and memories to cherish. VIVA MORRISSEY

Another pitiful solo outing by a former member of a legendary British band:

http://www.cbsnews.com/now/story/0,1597,318758-412 ,00.shtml

I've been to four Morrissey concerts and I probably listen to his music everyday, but I would never consider buying this album. As everyone's been saying, we already have all the songs.

My friends and I are all pretty hardcore moz fans, and I received a few questions about why I bought the "Best of..." album the day it came out, or at all.

I felt that, even though like many others, I own all the songs on this album (some twice or thrice over), I was voting with my dollar (or $18 dollars in this case).

Being a fan, there isn't much I feel I am able to do to influence record companies or show support to my favorite artist on a day-to-day basis. However, the one thing they always DO look at are the financial figures/sales numbers.

So, i mean, sure I understand the gripes on here, about no new material, i mean i hope to have a new Moz album soon too... but when you think about it, what does buying the album hurt? (I do understand it hurting your wallet if you're strapped for cash, so none of that nonsense.) It's just I highly doubt that choosing to NOT buy the album is going to prompt Moz or a record company to release new material... besides, the album does have a lot of great stuff, albeit previously released, on it.

Also, it's not like you're spending your $18.00 to get a boot to the jacobs and a slap in the face. You're still getting a CD with at least ONE of your favorite Moz songs, and a bunch of others you really enjoy.

So i'm one of the few, the proud, 2400+ that went out first week to buy it, and I plan on buying more for the upcoming holidays to give to friends and relatives.

Viva Moz. I still love you.

Which songs would fill up a 'best of' disc? 80% would be from his first two albums. Even his working with Mick Ronson didn't much inspire him. Maybe he could work with the guy who quit Suede. He can't seem to reach his old benchmarks on his own either. But even his worst efforts are still better than David Bowie's critically aclaimed recent albums, if that means anything...

Mighty impressive compared to the Fall's Cog Sinister ver o' 'In: Palace of Swords Reversed', which, given several years, hasn't sold one thousand copies.