posted by davidt on Wednesday April 25 2001, @11:00AM
Eric Wang writes:

On Amazon's UK site, there's a book entitled "Morrissey" by Pat Reid coming out in June of this year. I wasn't too sure if it was a biography or a novel of some sort, so I went to the website for the publisher, Absolute Press, click on "new titles"). And BINGO - it is about him, but seems to deal more with his sexuality than anything else.

One of pop music's most enigmatic and compelling figures. Morrissey's only claim about his sexuality is that he is celibate. But he is both reviled and revered by various sections of the gay community. Pat Reid delves into the hushed territory of it all.

Scheduled for Summer 2001.
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  • I wonder if Morrissey knows about this.

    DeB of the West Sider Riders ;-)
    Maplefreak -- Wednesday April 25 2001, @11:52AM (#10505)
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    And the songs we sing, they're not supposed to mean a thing...
  • Ridiculous (Score:1, Insightful)

    Great, a book which "explores" Morrissey's sexuality. Morrissey has made it a point throughout his career to keep his sexual orientation--whatever it may be--separate from his public image. This is his right, not only as an artist, but a human being. That certain sectors of the gay community hate Morrissey for this is bloody stupid. That a book is being written about the subject (a subject which can only be based on pointless speculation and second hand accounts)is sickening.

    His lyrics have, for the most part, been relevant to men and women, gays and straights alike precisely because he doesn't alienate anybody based on gender or sexual preference. I don't mean to sound overly serious, but the least we can do is pay him back by respecting his wishes for privacy on this topic.
    blurjose -- Wednesday April 25 2001, @06:35PM (#10522)
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  • I repost this missive about Moz and what by basis of fact has as much chance of being true as any bent accusations anyone can pin on him.

    Morrissey Not Gay
    "Last 20 years just some big misunderstanding."
    Sources close to Morrissey have citied seeing him drinking beer and partipating in multiple women lovefest in the the hills behind his LA home. Proving clearly that he in no way enjoys homosexuality. He says "I was never fuken gay. Grant Showbiz, told me once Gays had one of the highest dispensible incomes of all the Worlds population. As a growing band, the smiths needed to sell records I sold to that niche, as well as anyone." Asked about the gay bars " I never knew they were gay bars, I'm well read, too well read, I thought they were a franchise, Happy bars, I took the known definition of the word gay, which is happy. I kept going into get a pint at the Gay (Happy) Bars around london, learning only years later who was around me at those bars. "The Flowers all that other stuff, simple really, after the show, I'd give them out to ladies in exchange for sex. Its a great trick I'd recommend to other guys. Flowers, get you skins." Morrissey explains why he hasent been seen with many women in the past. "Its a personal custom of mine is to never get too attached. I meet women, everyday, I get to know them intmately in a matter of hours, after that its on to the next girl, the reporters always came when I was leaving the hotel alone. Thinking, oh look never a women with Morrissey. But the women were always still upstairs collecting the 20 pound note from the dresser while crying hystericaly. I am a female heartbreaker. I am what I am. But at the same time, I didnt want to rub it my fans face. you know? Look here I am a pogo stick for the worlds most beautiful women, and my fans are out there counting thier own birth as a sexual experience. You cant rub it in thier faces. I mean have you seen my fans?"
    This reporters has and concurs with Morrissey on that note. Well thats the news for today, Morrissey red-blooded Hetrosexual, tommorrows news, Morrissey enjoys daily helping of steak. "I know I said Meat is Murder, it is, but what people misundertsood is I like Murder, preferably meduim to well done murder, with a side order of sour cream."
     
    Smiths <reversethis-{moc ... a} {2eporhtdniw}> -- Wednesday April 25 2001, @08:16PM (#10525)
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  • What about Mark Simpson's book?
    I'm far more interested in this book.
    Celibate Cry <[email protected]> -- Wednesday April 25 2001, @09:17PM (#10526)
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    and the hills are alive with celibate cries
  • I like this publisher already. Cookery and gay travel. Maybe the book will deal with what recipes Morrissey likes when he travels in gay mode.
    suzanne -- Wednesday April 25 2001, @09:39PM (#10527)
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    I scare dead people.
  • a buddy of mine told me that she knows a guy who is writing a book on morrissey, Pat Reid. he told her that he wanted some stories from some fans, how they got introduced to morrissey's music, how it's effected them, etc. sure enough i e-mailed him my story and he responded by saying that he might use some of what i said in the book.

    however, i doubt that the book is just about morrissey's sexuality
    alero -- Wednesday April 25 2001, @10:13PM (#10530)
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    the youngest was the most loved...
  • Does celibate not count as a valid sexuality? All this talk about what morrissey's "real" sexual orientation is is daft. The truth is if you want to go off song lyrics then there's as much evidence for straight as there is gay, people just interpret stuff whichever way THEY want it to be.
    Anonymous -- Thursday April 26 2001, @02:05PM (#10560)
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  • Do you really think this idiot deserves to have his words put into print ? I can't think of anyone or anything so desperately stupid.

    The only book worth reading - for 30 minutes - would be Morrissey's own story. I am sure therein lies a tale or two.

    hazard
    UK
    Anonymous -- Thursday April 26 2001, @02:32PM (#10562)
  • How are the Gary Day and Spike T. Smith items "related" to this one?


    It makes one wonder...hmmm...

    DJJonLenin -- Thursday April 26 2001, @03:08PM (#10564)
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    • Re:Hidden meanings? by davidt (Score:1) Thursday April 26 2001, @03:54PM
      • Re:Hidden meanings? by DJJonLenin (Score:1) Thursday April 26 2001, @07:37PM
      • Hey, do you think he was tricking them with flattery into getting stuff?

        How does Pat Reid know anything?

        For some reason, I can't imagine this book being more in-depth than landscapes of the behind by David Bret, but I could be wrong.
        suzanne -- Thursday April 26 2001, @07:58PM (#10575)
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        I scare dead people.
  • How can so many people feign disinterest when most of Morrissey's songs are clearly about relationships or suppressed sexualitiy ?

    Be honest, you'd all love to hear a few revelations about Morrissey. Just look at the culture of celebrity that surrounds us and the thousands of magazines and books people buy. This intrigue is human nature - deal with it.

    Or maybe some of you are just scared because after relating to Moz on what you thought was a personal level for so many years, you finally discover he's been shagging Courtney for the last eight years - and enjoying it.
    Anonymous -- Thursday April 26 2001, @03:39PM (#10566)
  • Speaking of books, I'm about three-quarters through Willy Russell's The Wrong Boy and am loving it. Very clever -- even without the Moz connections.
    Xhris -- Thursday April 26 2001, @09:13PM (#10577)
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  • ...and by the way "Morrissey's only claim about his sexuality is that he is celibate" certainly isn't true. During the KROQ interview he claimed to be celebite "only during Christmas and bank holidays".
    Xhris -- Thursday April 26 2001, @09:17PM (#10578)
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    • right on by thinlizzie (Score:1) Friday April 27 2001, @07:33AM
  • Even without reading this book,(and that's something I'll never do) it's painfully obvious that the conclusion of the author will be that Morrissey is actually gay. I can't really see "celebrity in heterosexual shocker!!!" selling many books. That's the sad part really, that people only care because it's something slighty different to what's regarded as normal. When the last time a celebrity "admitted" to being straight?
      Whether Morrissey will die a virgin or if he enjoys a vigorous sex life is something that will probably remain a mystery, despite cynical attempts like this at exploiting Morrissey's fans appetite for something new with his name on it.
    Anonymous -- Saturday April 28 2001, @04:06PM (#10647)
  • OH come on...why is his sexuality such an interesting subject?? He has stated before that it didn't matter if the person was male or female. What matters to him is that he LOVES them. Same thing said about age. Come to think of it, I think it's actually in one of my SYL fanzines. Point is, it's no secret...certainly not important enough to write a whole book on. And, who cares anyway? "He's this" or "He's that" - so what?

    hand in glove -- Saturday April 28 2001, @11:48PM (#10661)
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  • I don't know what this book is going to be about exactly, but I do know i'm tired of folks spouting off about privacy and how it doesn't really matter if you like boys or girls. i'm sorry, but sex is politcs, so it does matter.

    first off, he's a public figure, so i maintian that as a person he has his rights to privacy, and as a celebrity all bets are off. sure these two stances conflict, but who said stardom made sense? this tension between the public and private will always exist.

    now, this book could be crap and poorly researched, filled with third hand gossip and silly inferences. on the other hand, i could see it being rather interesting, if the author decides to focus not on the "is he or isn't he" angle (which is a dead end topic on it's own) but on how someone like morrissey has taken the notion of a sex symbol and turned it upside down, by mystifying it, opening it up, and how by being so reclusive about the whole topic he's made himself accessable to both men and women...a closer proximity through distance...(eh, that's nausiatingly post-modern. i apologize). that's one of the most fascinating things about moz, i think. whether intentional or not, he's been quite clever about it all, when sex has become so blatant in the past few decades that it's hard to find true sexiness anymore.

    his attitudes toward gender and sexuality (especially male sexuality) have been quite fascinating, refreshing, and honest, and i do think the topic deserves a book all its own (even if the subject has been beaten to death over the years). -mal

    Anonymous -- Tuesday May 01 2001, @02:06PM (#10728)


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