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posted by
davidt
on Tuesday November 16 2010, @12:00PM
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From The Derek Ridgers Archive: Advertised worldwide first on Morrissey-solo! For the first time in 18 years, the only officially authorised print-run sale of the famous Skinhead Girls image, by the original photographer - Derek Ridgers - at a very special price. As used on the 1992 ‘Your Arsenal’ tour T-shirt, programme, stage pass and backdrop. And also at the infamous ‘Madstock’ gig, London, 1992 (covered by NME in their notorious ‘Flirting With Disaster’ issue). Knowing your Morrissey history, you will recall that use of the photo on the ‘Your Arsenal’ tour was never actually authorised by Derek Ridgers (but let’s not rake up old mistakes, we know exactly what they are): Morrissey-Skinhead-Girls-Story and Morrissey-solo article-Ridgers-Skinhead-Girls However, Morrissey has nothing if not impeccable taste in imagery - and this beautiful portrait of two young skinhead girls in Brighton, England, 1980, is now embedded in the iconography of British music; the image now part of the ongoing Morrissey mythology. But, ever since Your Arsenal, this iconic photograph has been out of commercial circulation - until now, (previously only offered as a one-off print). You’ve only had to wait eighteen years for this to become available, but well done, you made it! And here it is. http://tinyurl.com/D-RIDGERS-SKINHEAD-GIRLS-OFFER Each print is Hand Signed & Numbered by the photographer, Derek Ridgers, from a Limited Edition of only 300 worldwide. High-quality LAMDA print on FUJI CRYSTAL ARCHIVE paper: size: 20” x 16” USA = $299 + $14.90 shipping by Airsure ~ UK = £185 + £5.50 by Special delivery ~ EUROPE = €218 + €8.90 by Airsure BUY SKINHEAD GIRL PRINTS @ Derek Ridgers Archive website OR order prints directly from Derek by a Paypal payment (print cost + shipping) to Derek’s Paypal email address [email protected] (Don’t forget to include your name & shipping address!) Recommended last posting date for International Orders to beat the Xmas rush is December 10th ~ (Dec 22nd for UK)
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Sorry, but I'm a bit Skint at the moment... (Score:1)
That's a bit steep.
I'll spring for a copy of the print on a vintage tour shirt off of ebay. It should only be roughly a 3rd of the cost.
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Oh George: Sorry, you're MORE than a bit skint.... (Score:2, Insightful)
I think your phrase 'roughly a 3rd' is unintentionally apposite. Meaning that for $100 for the t-shirt, you'd just have a rough, crude reproduction of the image on cotton which would only get worse as you wore and washed it. Or, if you hung it on your wall, would only be a crude repro on cotton of the original image.
Honestly, some of you people, I despair... Is there no one left on this planet of taste and substance?
I mean apart from People of Walmart?
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I do love this picture (Score:1)
(User #355 Info)
skinbyrds (Score:1)
(User #22900 Info)
not skinhead girls (Score:1)
this is two- tone modettes circa 1980
As i was a skinhead and a Suadehead(to my shame!) in late 69 till Bolan saved us in 72 i find this laughable
not such a great photo !
(User #18040 Info)
the NME 1992 issue (Score:0, Offtopic)
somewhere
hands up whose that lucky too
btw I find it not apropriate to bring it up again, and make a site sponsor
the NME is nosing around, and word that this skinhead stuff will turn the discussion on
I wonder if Morrissey happy with this action
[yeah I know this will get negative moderation,
but at least I have my own opinion]
(User #220 Info)
I have this print.... (Score:0)
(User #14697 Info)
^^ Jack's Johnson: My frozen balls are now loaded. (Score:0, Troll)
Secondly, the very slight difference between the picture outside the Lads Club and the one being flogged here, is one picture contains an iconic picture of The Smiths, whilst the other is a picture that was simply used by Morrissey. Without Morrissey's use of this picture, the photographer would be left with a scrapbook of nice pictures worth nothing to no one. That's the difference and why Wright's pictures demand a higher fee.''
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Oh dear. Like when a nun walks past me on a winter's day and I have snowball in my hand - I'm afraid I just can't let this one pass by.
Dear boy, at least have the courage of your convictions. If ‘as far as I am concerned, anyone can sell whatever picture they want to for as much as they want to’ was true, then you shouldn’t really be posting that a photographer's work is a ‘rip off price’, should you? You disprove your own assertion.
Your second point is also equally confused; the skinhead girls picture is now also an iconic rock image. You might not want it to be, but it is.
And when you say ‘the other is a picture that was simply used by Morrissey’? Wrong, wrong, wrong - no image is ‘simply used by Morrissey’?
If you knew anything about the singer, surely you would know how carefully he chooses the few images that he does use and, if his use of a chosen image confers upon the photograph some value because of his patronage, then that is all down to his choosing it. Remember, Morrissey chose the image of his own free will - the photographer did not force him to use it. That says something about the photograph, no? I would say yes.
‘Without Morrissey's use of this picture, the photographer would be left with a scrapbook of nice pictures worth nothing to no one.’ Again, how wrong can you possibly be? Well, let me tell you how wrong. From what I can see from looking at Ridger’s website, he has a huge portfolio of work (including photographs of Morrissey), right back to punk rock images in the seventies.
So, let's have a recap, (for 3 reasons):
for the hard of thinking
for those not paying attention
for Justin Bieber fans who have been directed here by concerned family members...
Jacked Johnson, I put it to you, sir, that you have gone from defending a photographer's right to make a living from his work -
(Remember this: 'Stephen is a professional photographer. He takes pictures for a living. It pays his mortgage and puts food on his table so he has a right to sell the pictures that he has taken no matter how many he took or how long ago it was... Good for him and long may that continue. I certainly can't criticise him.')
- to making a screeching u-turn and accusing another photographer of all things you defended in Stephen Wright. It doesn’t really make any sense, my love. (Can I call you 'love'?)
What are you - Stephen Wright's agent? His granny? His nanny? And, even if you are, would Wright really want you attacking another professional photographer for simply wanting to make a living from his work as Wright does from his? I somehow doubt it.
I look forward to the winter's day that you walk past me in a nun's outfit... I have snowballs, baby, and I know how to use them.
(User #14124 Info)
Well, I wonder (Score:1)
And as my brother works in a photographic studio I feel I've got some knowledge about the difference between a high quality professional photographer's print, and an everyday kind of cheap photo print. There is no comparison. The professional prints are just beautiful. (And they're not cheap to make either.)
And, well I wonder, where are these girls now?
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Smiths cover art.... (Score:1, Informative)
This is a piece of Art (Score:0)
Totally agree this is art. (Score:1, Informative)
And there's a world of difference between a controlled, professional print on high-quality grade photographic paper, and a cheapo print. It's like comparing a great chef-cooked meal with fast food.
Cheap prints are barely worth even framing, but a great print you can look at for a lifetime.
Yer pays yer money and takes yer choice, folks. But $299 (£185) for a limited edition print of a famous image signed by the artist is a bargain, in my opinion. I work in a gallery that sometimes sells archive quality photographic prints, and for that price you wouldn't even get the best FRAME in the place, never mind the signed print!
Some of these (young) kids haven't a clue..... (Score:1, Informative)
Ridgers is an ARTIST with a very important cultural heritage & archive.
To have a newbie Morrissey fan (Georgissey - whatever) moaning about his prices is a disgrace. £180 for a genuine Derek Ridgers print is a very reasonable price.
AT LAST - some people with some sense and taste! (Score:1)
And glad to see some people have also finally come along that know the value of a professional gallery-quality print, rather than some crappy repro.
Wasn't it Oscar Wilde (Morrissey hero) who said that some people know the price of everything but the value of nothing.
So true.
(User #23764 Info)
welll i think you are absolutely gorgeous (Score:0)
little known liverpudlian
but we shared something rfh i guess ill always love you
well (Score:0)
gorgeous
OH MY GOD! .... so right about the tattooed faces! (Score:0)
It really makes you wonder where those guys are now (and if any of them are grandads?!)
SKINHEADS - http://www.derekridgers.com/skinheads [derekridgers.com]
(Notice how the one called 'Babs' looks like a young Michelle Ryan - Bionic Woman)
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PUNK - http://www.derekridgers.com/Punk [derekridgers.com]
(I luv, luv, luv original Punk pics)
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NEW ROMANTICS - http://www.derekridgers.com/new_romantics [derekridgers.com]
(There's some photos here of a really young George O'Dowd, before he became famous as Boy George!)
where are they now?... (Score:0)
Probably not Skins still i'm thinking...
Re:kids in need (Score:1)
Princess Valium
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but what a lubbely prick (Score:0)
irene
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