posted by davidt on Monday July 31 2006, @11:00AM
Jonny Holden writes:
From this week's Sunday Times (UK), 'Vauhall and I' is listed as the no.3 gay album of all-time. I can't find the actual top 10 list on-line but here's the link to the article.

And here is the top 10 as published in the paper....
1 - Scissor Sisters - Scissor Sisters
2 - Arrival - Abba
3 - Vauxhall and I - Morrissey
4 - Light Years - Kylie Minogue
5 - Older - George Michael
6 - Welcome to the Pleasuredome - Frankie Goes to Hollywood
7 - Erotica - Madonna
8 - I Aam a Bird Now - Antony and the Johnsons
9 - Bad Girls - Donna Summer
10 - The Man Who Sold the World - David Bowie
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  • I don't wave the pink flag but am reliably informed that Maladjusted is the voice of the dame.

    Anonymous -- Monday July 31 2006, @11:55AM (#230157)
  • what's morrissey and vauxhall and i gotta do with the gay thing?Don't understand ,morrissey has never said he is gay.Beats me.
    Anonymous -- Monday July 31 2006, @11:58AM (#230158)
    • Re:gay album by Anonymous (Score:0) Monday July 31 2006, @12:12PM
    • Re:gay album by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday August 08 2006, @03:43PM
  • I've always thought Bona Drag is the real gay album. that's why I like it so much. I mean, isn't Vauxhall and I the more soft hurt, but hetero, man-record?

    ps. I'm not gay.
    Anonymous -- Monday July 31 2006, @12:25PM (#230160)
    • Re:Bona Drag by Anonymous (Score:0) Monday July 31 2006, @05:36PM
      • Re:Bona Drag by nicknames (Score:1) Wednesday August 09 2006, @08:35PM
  • I don't quite see the relevence of labelling something 'gay' or 'straight' or 'black' or 'white' or 'male' or 'female'. Aside from artists like the Scissor Sisters, who directly go for camp and Kylie who knows that her fan base is comprised of teenage girls and gay men, I don't quite understand how you can categorise an album as 'gay'. I can only assume that, since the poll was done in Attitude, it was taken either from what gay men have in their record collections, or what they voted for from a long list. The only songs from 'Vauxhall & I' that I think could be described as referring to a gay relationship or a gay lifestyle are 'Billy Budd' and 'I Am Hated For Loving'. And even if Moz wrote the entire album from the perspective of a gay man, should this really matter? I sometimes think that in our mad dash to categorise, shelter beneath words and stereotypes and branch off into groups that cry solidarity or prejudice at every turn, we do ourselves more harm than good. I suppose it's all very well for me to comment on how a gay man feels in today's society (being a woman of indeterminate sexuality), but I know some of my gay male friends agree with me about other people claiming a culture for them. Whilst it's nice to see the stereotype of the 'gay cheesy pop and dance lover' exploded, sometimes an album is just an album, with no more agenda than the personal feelings of the artist. Having said that, should my mum be worried that my dad is the proud owner of a Scissor Sisters album?
    Mozzersgirl -- Monday July 31 2006, @12:50PM (#230163)
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  • what a stupid load of shit it's beyond me what made them put morrissey in this.
    Anonymous -- Monday July 31 2006, @01:34PM (#230169)
  • Exactly what makes a song or L.P. "gay"...this is just another example of the listo-mania the critical press have been possessed by for more than a decade.
    There's a little bit of disco(but no sylvester-you do not get camper than that)..works by gay artists(but no pet shop boys-criminal)..and a morrissey album thrown in for the kind of poof who doesn't get off on retrocentric demonstrative campery...
    cockwash and piddle the lot of it.."hand in glove" could be considered "gay" as could "this charming man"..need i continue..
    labelling music thus is exactly the kind of process that undermines the libertarian nature of great pop music in general and great artists in particular... ..great heaving sweaty bollocks..IGNORE
    drilltime -- Monday July 31 2006, @01:38PM (#230171)
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  • Its very difficult for all these overpaid dreary tossers who have to fill the Sunday Papers with banal lists.

    next week...expect to see either

    Morrissey -

    the 'Black album'

    the 'Catholic Album'

    the 'Jewish Album'

    the 'Bluegrass Album'

    or perhaps the 'Tapas and Sangria Alfresco Pool Party Album'

    and so on.
    Brighton Rich -- Monday July 31 2006, @02:30PM (#230178)
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  • ...you are all giving this a bit too much thought?
    VIVAMOZ <[email protected]> -- Monday July 31 2006, @03:46PM (#230185)
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    blame me! i didn't vote!
  • And I have three testicles.

    Oh those silly Sunday Times people. I thought it was a serious, well informed newspaper!
    I mean... Surely even Elton John without his glasses on can see the 1% of heterosexuality in that album!
    No?
    Oh well.

    Anonymous -- Monday July 31 2006, @05:35PM (#230199)
  • Attitude magazine (Score:3, Interesting)

    The list - of 50 gay albums - actually appears in a British magazine for gay men called Attitude, and the Times is merely reporting that.

    Graham Norton chose "Vauxhall & I" and here's what he says about it:

    "You might expect me to go for a Dolly Parton after doing Graham Does Dollywood. But no! It's got to be a Mozzer album for me, and this one in particular, all because of just one song on it - The More you ignore me, the closer I get. Ge-ni-us. I used it as end music for my stand-up shows on tour so it has a personal history for me. Lyrics like, 'I bear more grudges/than lonely High Court judges' are just utter black comedy. I love playing his music really loud, as it really works with the big full sound. his latest album Ringleader of the Tormentors is a real return to form for him. But Vauxhall & I is the classic. What's the gay appeal to it? The sheer self-loathing. That, and the sense of romantic yearning. What's so unusual about Morrissey is how both gay and straight men worship him equally: they like the guitar stuff and we listen to the words."
    theboyhappy -- Monday July 31 2006, @10:39PM (#230210)
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  • I'm so glad that Moz is in this list- it shows the appeal Morrissey has for many different sectors of listeners. And without deliberately and cynically going for the Pink Pound.

    It takes quite a man to release a record that gay people and footy fans will buy in equal numbers.

    Well done Morrissey!
    Strutting Rooster -- Monday July 31 2006, @10:52PM (#230211)
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  • Not sure what's so 'gay' about Vauxhall & I, but I really cannot see what is 'gay' about Bowie's The Man Who Sold The World???

    That said, I've always been told that '69 Love Songs' by Magnetic Fields was the ultimate gay album! Perhaps it just depends on who you ask...

    Lists are taking over the world at the moment - Please don't let them take over this site too...
    Elsie -- Tuesday August 01 2006, @05:30AM (#230230)
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  • No Erasure? (Score:1, Interesting)

    Mozzer is not gay. He hates dance music, has never had a moustache, likes hard driving indie rock music, has never been a fan of Judy Garland, Liza Minelli, or Madonna. However, Erasure should definitely be on this list.
    Anonymous -- Tuesday August 01 2006, @07:59AM (#230238)
    • Re:No Erasure? by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday August 01 2006, @09:42AM
      • Re:No Erasure? by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday August 01 2006, @10:01AM
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          • Re:No Erasure? by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday August 01 2006, @03:11PM
            • Re:No Erasure? by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday August 01 2006, @03:26PM
    • Re:No Erasure? by jeffsbf (Score:1) Wednesday August 02 2006, @09:58AM
      • Re:No Erasure? by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday August 02 2006, @10:27AM
  • I really don't see how Vauxhall and I has any gay qualities about it. I see it as a mellow album with awesome tracks on.
    Handsome Charmer -- Tuesday August 01 2006, @10:04AM (#230250)
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  • I dont know what else 'flamebait' could be
    Anonymous -- Tuesday August 01 2006, @10:36AM (#230254)
  • ...you do not want to believe.
    Anonymous -- Tuesday August 01 2006, @01:11PM (#230275)
  • It's really funny seeing all the intrinsically homophobic-but-don't-know-it Moz fans get up in arms over a fairly innocuous story.
    Anonymous -- Tuesday August 01 2006, @01:21PM (#230278)
  • What a great LP.

    I've got to say though I never thought of V and I as a gay LP....
    Jsut thought it was a very honest, open body of work. But as I'm not gay/ Graham Norton (honestly!!!) then maybe I'm missing something.
    Anonymous -- Tuesday August 01 2006, @02:55PM (#230286)
  • I think the Panic! at the disco should have been up there too...

    OH wait.. you mean homosexual gay.

    hahaha...
    Anonymous -- Tuesday August 01 2006, @03:45PM (#230290)
  • Come on where is Coldplay? Anything by Styx, N'Sync, and of course, Destiny's Child.
    Anonymous -- Tuesday August 01 2006, @03:55PM (#230292)
  • Gay Album ? This people thinks we're stupid or idiot ?? What the hell is a Gay album ?? I just can't figure it out !!!
    Anonymous -- Wednesday August 02 2006, @05:07AM (#230313)
    • Re:Gay Album by viggerz (Score:1) Wednesday August 02 2006, @05:41AM
  • Journalists' job is to make stupid stories, stupid lists... So, here's another one. Well done guys! Morrissey and Abba, Kylie, Madonna... How creative! Even Bush would make more intelligent list.
    Anonymous -- Wednesday August 02 2006, @06:33AM (#230317)
  • If anyone cant see the gay subtext in that, they are stupid.
    Speedway,, he basically lays its out..saying all those rumours about him arent completekly unfounded. But I still Bona Drag is his gayest album
    jeffsbf -- Wednesday August 02 2006, @08:26AM (#230321)
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  • What if he did come out as gay, would that stop you from listening?
    jeffsbf -- Wednesday August 02 2006, @10:19AM (#230332)
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  • There's lots of stupidity floating around, this is just one one them obviously created by a gay journalist, with nothing do except to creat this abnormality, called the list of the best gay albuns....what will be next ?? The best Lesbian albuns ? the best heterosexual albuns ? ...give me a break, there's limits for such bulls**t!!
    This one I need it to forget it quickly!! Gonna be patetic in hell!
    Anonymous -- Wednesday August 02 2006, @10:24AM (#230334)
  • For my money, 'Goodbye Yellow Brick Road' doesn't get any gayer! Although my Village People album is formidably gay as well. The cowboy, Randy Jones sings and dances with a gayness that is rare in today's music. Kudos to both for their unwavering, timeless gayness.
    Anonymous -- Wednesday August 02 2006, @03:49PM (#230364)
  • But it's telling how many insecure homophobic people there are .
    jeffsbf -- Thursday August 03 2006, @07:33AM (#230396)
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