posted by davidt on Saturday May 28 2005, @01:00PM
Some Totally Random Moz Fan sends the link:

http://www.true-to-you.net/#050528

28th May 2005

IOW statement from Morrissey:

I have not ever, at any time, agreed to play the Isle of Wight Festival. The announcement that I would play was made by Sanctuary—and it was their error. However, record companies will never take the blame for their own mistakes and Sanctuary’s press statement today reflects this.

In truth, I am not at all under pressure with the follow-up to You Are The Quarry—everything is in hand, and ready. However, my contract with Sanctuary ended last year and hasn’t been renewed. Hence, no promotional appearances for Live At Earls Court or the accompanying single. Surely somebody noticed?

Secondly, I have NOT parted company with Deano, and I am annoyed that Sanctuary have thrown this in without consulting either Deano or myself. But that’s just the way it goes. Call it anything other than what it is.

Thirdly, I have no connection at all with the site called Morrisseymusic.com. It is controlled by Sanctuary and I am neither consulted nor involved.

When a concert is announced in error—as with Japan last year—the inevitable news to follow is that I have “pulled out”; but I can’t pull out if I’ve never been in in the first place, and even though Janice Long kindly announced very early on that the IOW wouldn’t happen, unfortunately Sanctuary would not confirm this and this encouraged people to buy tickets.

I am very angry about the IOW, but I can’t control Sanctuary. I also realise that, regardless of the facts, people will always blame me for any unfortunate incidents—somehow believing that I control the entire spectrum of human events. In truth, since our closing dates last year in London and Dublin, my personal involvement in anything that has followed has been sub minus zero.

There will be a new signing for the new album, so please wait until you hear the news from my lips. Everything else is just gossip.

love to you from MORRISSEY.

27th May 2005
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  • Releasing his new album on Attack, which is Morrissey's branch of Sanctuary? Things could get complicated...
    DanielGaunt -- Saturday May 28 2005, @01:05PM (#163762)
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  • I take it you'll all be apologising to Morrissey now.
    dazzak -- Saturday May 28 2005, @01:05PM (#163763)
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  • It does not add up. There was an announcement on the radio, it was mentioned on his official website (run by Sanctuary I assume). Seems to be the same trick he did with The Smiths in 1987. Then The Smiths were announced to play Pinkpop in The Netherlands, and all was arranged. He then pulled out because he himself was never informed thereon. Other people decedid for him. So Sanctuary artist management pulled this one. Sancuary gods yesterday, and what are they now. I wonder what is going on in his camp.
    Anonymous -- Saturday May 28 2005, @01:11PM (#163769)
    • pinkpop 1987 (Score:2, Informative)

      the Smiths split was the reason they
      never toured the european festivals and gigs in
      1987, so get yer facts straight before throwing
      garbage in here
      Celibate Cry <[email protected]> -- Saturday May 28 2005, @11:03PM (#163902)
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      and the hills are alive with celibate cries
  • Thanks Morrissey (Score:3, Interesting)

    Love to you too!

    Before reading this story I've just written a bit trying to put the 'cancellation' in context, which my ego doesn't want to delete, but of course Morrissey expresses the truth much better and rightfully puts the record company to shame in this instance.

    The reactions to Morrissey’s cancellation show the devotion he inspires. A lot of things about him, his honesty, his playfulness, his knowledge, his style, attract attention in a way that’s different, and more like the love-bombing of a cult than the trendiness of a pop-star. “When you are young you crave affection and it can come from the strangest direction”. Like a cult he seems to say: ‘don’t listen to them – listen to me and keep me in mind’ but he doesn’t sneakily draw one in to a comfort cushion of belonging and approval at the eventual cost of individual freedom under dire threat.

    It’s more like ‘who knows, we may never meet again so let’s be euphoric while we’re together with the music, but otherwise you live your life and I live mine’. He’s juggling with options and time-pressures and meeting standards as much as the rest of us, but not covering it over with a perfectionism and not reducing quality or pace by pretending to please everyone. He’s responding to changing circumstances and knowing his real strengths and limitations. He’s not asking everyone to follow him and rely on him blindly but more being an example of how people can have happy encounters if they’re not putting all their eggs in one basket but looking after the business of everyday that is in their power, preparing carefully, making necessary choices and decisions, and seizing the day as suits.

    The enduring alluring paradox of Morrissey – divinely human!
     
    goinghome -- Saturday May 28 2005, @01:13PM (#163770)
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    • Oh... by Lazy Sunbather (Score:1) Saturday May 28 2005, @02:45PM
      • if morrissey really cared he could have told anyone (i.e. true-to-you, moz-solo,janice long, etc..)about this conflict with sanctuary from the minute he knew they had planned something without consulting him. but what did he choose to do instead? He elected to let events unfold until it was to late for many who had already made plans. and why you may ask? because he simply has to much pride. and pride is alright. we all should have a little. but when it affects the people who have supported him and kept him relevant, that sucks. and nevermind the fact that we spend tons of money on his shows, music, and merchandise, we choose to do that out of our own will. but it sucks becuase it affects people to whom his music means alot, to people who defend him when he is criticised unnecessarily. yes, morrissey doesn't owe us anything, but a little respect to those who have been there with him when maladjusted sold ten copies and the industry had brushed him aside wouldn't hurt.
        Glory Hole -- Saturday May 28 2005, @08:15PM (#163887)
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        "I tried living in the real world, instead of a shell, but before I began, I was bored before I even began!"
    • Re: Thanks Morrissey by veradicere (Score:1) Saturday May 28 2005, @03:23PM
  • he could have saved a lot of his fans money, time & a right palaver!

    Grim
    Grim O'Grady -- Saturday May 28 2005, @01:13PM (#163771)
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  • Nice of you not to tell your fans until a week before the show, after people have gotten plane tickets and hotels and whatnot.

    "The announcement that I would play was made by Sanctuary—and it was their error. However, record companies will never take the blame for their own mistakes and Sanctuary’s press statement today reflects this."

    You both screwed up.

    "and even though Janice Long kindly announced very early on that the IOW wouldn’t happen, unfortunately Sanctuary would not confirm this and this encouraged people to buy tickets."

    All you had to do was send a statement to True To You a long time ago and it would've gotten around.

    "I am very angry about the IOW, but I can’t control Sanctuary."

    Yes, you're angry at Sanctuary, yadda yadda yadda. You still owe some of your fans an apology, which you're too full of yourself to include in your statement.

    "somehow believing that I control the entire spectrum of human events."

    Rubbish. You certainly do control what statements you issue to your fans. You just didn't care.

    "In truth, since our closing dates last year in London and Dublin, my personal involvement in anything that has followed has been sub minus zero."

    Oh you're so above it all, Morrissey. Meanwhile some of your fans were spending hundreds of dollars - in some cases more - to attend a concert your official web site was promoting and you didn't lift a figure to set straight, even though you knew you had no intention of playing there all along.

    "love to you from MORRISSEY."

    I love you too. But you're kind of a self-centered jerk sometimes. But hey, I guess we all do kinda love the drama of being a Morrissey fan! :)

    LoafingOaf <reversethis-{moc ... otstnilfcitnarf}> -- Saturday May 28 2005, @01:22PM (#163778)
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    Fuck it, Dude. Let's go bowling.
    • Amen. by langworthy (Score:1) Saturday May 28 2005, @02:22PM
    • great post! (Score:3, Insightful)

      you are dead on about everything in your post. the saddest thing about morrissey's official statement is the way he distances himself from his official website. if it was moz-solo or morrissey tour announcing the tour dates i could understand, but it isn't.

      also, isn't one by default suppossed to be involved at least in the most minimal way with the website (or any other median, for that matter) that promotes you as an artist and that is run by the record company that you signed a contract with? and by default, aren't you supposed to rectify any misrepresentation caused by the website and record company that promotes you?

      he's in the wrong!
      Glory Hole -- Saturday May 28 2005, @09:07PM (#163891)
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  • Dear Heart of Mine.

    Yes, lost forevermore.

    Sad for me. Of no consequence to anyone else.
    Anonymous -- Saturday May 28 2005, @01:24PM (#163779)
  • I think you have a good case against Sanctuary if they actually put you up to play IOW when you're not even on their label. So why don't you go ahead and sue them, and have them pay back the fans who spend (for them) a fortune to go there and see you. It's the least you can do when you knew all along that you wouldn't appear at IOW.
    Anonymous -- Saturday May 28 2005, @01:39PM (#163786)
  • Was it just me, or was that was really exciting to read? Deano is not out of the band, that's good news. Nothing about Alain, I guess he is out.
    Anonymous -- Saturday May 28 2005, @01:41PM (#163787)
  • The real Morrissey (Score:0, Interesting)

    Everyone on this site has made an icon out of this man. This is the real guy. A snobby ego-centric millionaire who refuses to take any responsibility for his actions. Everyone goes around kissing his ass and hugging him when they see him that he feels he can do no wrong.
    He is only half responsible. The other half of responsibility goes to us (I include myself) loser fans who need to get lives and quit idolizing this pompous, selfish, and inconsiderate diva. I think behavior like this explains why Morrissey is going to die alone and miserable without anyone who really loves him. Grow up Morrissey. Thanks for the past due message, but admit you messed up and kicked alot of you fans in the balls.
    Thanks
    moho -- Saturday May 28 2005, @01:44PM (#163789)
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    • Re:The real Morrissey by Anonymous (Score:0) Saturday May 28 2005, @01:52PM
    • Re:The real Morrissey by goinghome (Score:1) Saturday May 28 2005, @02:30PM
    • Re:The real Morrissey by Lazy Sunbather (Score:1) Saturday May 28 2005, @02:54PM
    • "Everyone on this site has made an icon out of this man."
      No...he made an icon out of himself. And well deserved I might add. Morrissey went against all odds to keep his creative output at the highest level after enduring a catastrophic breakup of arguably the worlds greatest band. He also went againt the stereotype of an artist caring only for the music and not paying attention to his finances. Ask Billy Joel, Elton John or Willie Nelson where that got them. If you earned Millions so early in life wouldn't you look after it? Morrissey worked very hard to get where he is. You couldn't begin to fathom the speed his life moves at. And for those who say they are sick of hearing Morrissey fans say how he saved their lives, changed their lives, etc... well he did change mine for one more than you would ever know. I believe without his influence and that of Robert Smith I never would have become a singer, songwriter and musician. He meens a lot to many of us and if you don't get the impact he has had on some of our lives then well...I am truly sorry for your missing out on that. Every great human that has achieved their dreams had those dreams planted by someone who they found iconic. Even Morrissey has his list of influences. In turn Morrissey influences (read changes the lives of) a great very many people and a landslide of musicians and singers. He is my generations Bowie or Gilmore.
      By the by...This is a site built to honor and revel in Morrissey's career and creative output...You do know that right?
      MOZ IS GOD -- Sunday May 29 2005, @09:36AM (#163970)
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    • Re:The real Morrissey by Anonymous (Score:1) Sunday May 29 2005, @11:15AM
  • Morrissey
    Unfortunately, you have very little credibility with your fans. You speak out of both sides of your mouth. History has proven that you routinely cancel shows and appearances and place the blame on everyone else but yourself. You always play the victim, Morrissey, but this too, becomes old. You don't care at all about your fans and the hard earned money they spend on your records and your concerts. If you did care, you'd bite the bullet and play IOW as a gesture of good will to the people who have stuck by you all these years and have allowed you to dress yourself in designer clothes. According to your own statement, poor, poor, Morrissey, you have no excuse for not playing the IOW festival at this point. You're problems are between you and your label Sanctuary. We, the fans, have nothing to do with it but you've dragged us into the fold. I have read the statement by your label more than a dozen times and I have not seen anything that suggests your drummer Deano is out of the band. But I guess you read it the way you want to read it, Morrissey. You have disappointed hundreds of thousands of people, Morrissey. On behalf of your fans, I must say this is the last straw. You are in desperate need of therapy and some hard-core medication. We're sick, sick, sick of you playing the victim and we won't stand for it any longer. If you have an ounce of compassion or courage in that egotistical head of yours you'll play IOW. If not, you're nothing but a vindictive prick.
    Anonymous -- Saturday May 28 2005, @01:55PM (#163794)
  • I'm not at all surprised that there was no promotional work done for for the Live At Earls Court album or the There Is A Light single given that they are both shite. Why promote a badly produced and frankly poor album when there are better fan recordings from the latter shows of last year. He's full of crap and once again did far too little too late for those who give him the lifestyle he enjoys. Blaming anyone but your self is a very poor avenue for someone who claims to be an intellectual.
    Sleepy lifeguard -- Saturday May 28 2005, @02:02PM (#163797)
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  • Where does this leave Morrissey's songwriting partner, Boz Boorer, who has recently signed an apparently "exclusive" contract with Sanctuary?
    Can't see Alain coming back soon.....
    Anonymous -- Saturday May 28 2005, @02:08PM (#163800)
  • You know who loves ya ;-) Thanks for all you do, M.

    dneuer
    Anonymous -- Saturday May 28 2005, @02:08PM (#163801)
  • My favourite line from the above statement: "Hence, no promotional appearances for Live At Earls Court or the accompanying single. Surely somebody noticed?" Well, I did think it was odd that they announced the gig, then Janice Long said it wouldn't be happening. Plus the fact that no other gigs either side of the IOW were announced - not even a rumour surfaced. It all smelt fishy to me.
    mozrebel <[email protected]> -- Saturday May 28 2005, @02:27PM (#163808)
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    • Guardian Hay by Anonymous (Score:0) Saturday May 28 2005, @03:51PM
  • hasnt Boz been makin posts on his site durin this period while the IOW Festival appearance was supposedly upcoming? could he hav not mentioned something himself? for if Morrissey was really never on board with the gig than Boz and the rest of the band mustve known this as well.

    honestly, best case scenario for Moz here is he really was on board for the show and has pulled out last minute for reasons neither he or the label wish to disclose and so now hes makin up this story to save face somehow. as terrible an attempt that would be and terrible it would be to not only pull out of a show but to compound it by lying about why, it would still be better than if we were to believe Moz's story that he knew all along that he wasnt going to be playing. imean, by his story hes juste been a completely inconsidorate, insulant ass to his fans that were plannin on seeing him there.

    either way you cut it, Morrissey is a real bastard- but istill lov him.
    chrisarclark <[email protected]> -- Saturday May 28 2005, @02:29PM (#163809)
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  • -Apparently, Morrissey didn't know he was meant to play IOW until very very recently. Does he never check his own website or keep tabs on Sanctuary?

    -It may have taken so long for him to create this statement because he is stubborn and wanted Sanctuary to fix this error without his intervention.

    -He sounds bitter about Sanctuary's failure to renew his contract in an expedient manner. Sounds like the love affair is coming to an end.
    Anonymous -- Saturday May 28 2005, @02:58PM (#163825)
  • believe. dear x
    devout -- Saturday May 28 2005, @02:59PM (#163826)
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  • I know that a lot of people are saying that many of us are overreacting, but if you'd spent hard-earned money on seeing morrissey good authority from his record company (who you wouldn't instinctively suspect of lying) that he was playing, then you'd have done the same. That is, you'd buy a ticket if his music meant enough to you & you could find some possible way of attending.

    To deny the fact that a lot of us have been duped & have no reason to complain, & 'should have expected it' is just silly. Perhaps we should all be cynical & expect the worst, but not all of us do, & if we all had that frame of mind then nobody would ever go to any of his gigs.

    I'm not that pissed off anymore, i was more so when we were fobbed off with an excuse from his record company, but it doesn't explain why he didn't mention the fact that he had no intention to play beforehand. He's obviously aware of what's going on since the message on 'true to you' was dated as being written on the 27th, the date when the announcement was made on morrisseymusic.com, we should have been told earlier & there's no excuse for that.

    I still love morrissey, but a bit of tact from a few of his fans wouldn't go amiss on this occasion, it may be terribly amusing to you people, but it's not to some of us.
    Keely -- Saturday May 28 2005, @03:03PM (#163828)
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  • "Devious, truculent and unreliable."

    I didn't buy tickets for the IOW festival; I just have full sympathy for all those salt of the earth wonderful people who bought tickets, booked accommodation, saved money, and arranged for somebody to care for their pussy cat while they were away for the weekend.

    At last people on this site are waking up to the fact that the Mozfather doesn't give a bastard's fuck about any of you people - as long as he's not inconvenienced he couldn't care less about the hardship he puts his fans through. He suffers from a particular type of autism that afflicts many Celllebratttties - "I'm the only person in the world who has got feelings!"

    Let us not forget that this is the man who hired some pillock to impersonate him last year on KROQ radio - this was so transparent that it went from hilarity to pathos in seconds. Who the hell did he think he could fool with that stunt?

    He hoodwinked Rourke and Joyce - why should he treat you any differently?

    Lazy Sunbather -- Saturday May 28 2005, @03:07PM (#163830)
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  • Thought something wierd was going on after Morrissey announced during a gig last year that his next single release would be the song "I Like You".

    However, the new year came and went, then January.....and then: double A-side Redondo Beach/ There is a Light! Which were lifted from the live shows...Sanctuary didn't even do a studio version of Redondo Beach!!

    Jackie.
    Anonymous -- Saturday May 28 2005, @03:29PM (#163839)
  • There appear to be two ways of thinking towards Morrissey and this IOW fiasco. Firstly, there are those who think Morrissey can do what the hell he likes and that we should all go with him without thinking and lick his balls after. These are the same kind of people who voted for George W in the last US of A election and deserve the fiercest punishment come judgement day. Secondly, there are those people who think that if a person that they care about consistently makes dodgy judgements then we should try to rectify this behaviour so it doesn't keep happening. If Morrissey listens to the former, as he seems to have done throughout his career, he will die very lonely. If he listens to the latter then he may well have some hope. Hold on to your friends Morrissey, Remember that song?
    ohglen -- Saturday May 28 2005, @03:45PM (#163844)
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  • honestly, i didn't think anything about it that he wasn't out promoting the live album.

    the Oye Esteban promotion consisted entirely of two DVD signings.

    singles came out last year that weren't accompanied by any TV show appearances or interviews. you could almost argue that what appearances he did make were to remind people that he was on tour.

    i find it odd that they haven't exercised their renewal.....combined with the "new signing" comment, the only thing i can think of is that a bigger label has come by and bought his contract out.

    which is kind of nice. i mean, sanctuary were at least good to show that he could still pull in the big bucks, but they completely went to town on it in a bad way.

    i know he was probably waiting on sanctuary to do the right thing for his fans, but if they're not willing to do it, then he should at least do it for his fans. he has to understand that the information presented was confusing. the very fact that he announced it only on Janice Long's show (which is assuming that every fan tunes in to her show) but tickets were still being sold gave everyone the impression that he changed his mind. it wasn't a very strong "no" either. more strongly worded press releases to the websites and newspapers would have done the job.
    suzanne -- Saturday May 28 2005, @04:10PM (#163851)
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  • Anyone who works in a corporate environment will know that obfuscation is rampant; that those who you trust to represent your clear statements often have hidden agendas, driven by unspoken objectives and personalities that can turn plain communication into Chinese whisper; that can make pawns of those on the books, and spring trip-wires for the straightforward punter. Some sound business advice may be what Morrissey needs to demystify his beloved and ardent fans to a bearable level, and I dare to set the wheels rolling!! Stan might help who I think is linked to the record company industry?

    We might presume from Moz’ statement, that hearing anything from his lips from now on means checking with Julia’s website. The ‘Live at EarlsCourt’ CD cites Sanctuary and morrisseymusic as the contacts, and that Morrissey’s name is clearly attached to those information sources makes things very confusing indeed. If he is CEO of Attack though (does anyone know for sure if he still is – otherwise maybe he’s searching for a ‘deal’ or could he set up solo?), he could organize an associated site to clue people in to the news in his world. If he wants wiggling room, he might read up on a few governmental or legal reports whose opacity and scope for interpretation are myriad, leaving everyone guessing but no-one guaranteed! If there are legal issues about what he can publicise, that might complicate things more than we can imagine.

    That’s all I can think of for now ‘cos I’m exhausted and ready for someone to ‘sing me to sleep’! Over to you!

    Would we care so much one way or the other if this wasn't true about Morrissey?: 'I am now a central part of your mind's landscape whether you like it or not!'

    goinghome -- Saturday May 28 2005, @04:11PM (#163853)
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  • Yeah right these are Moz;s own words. He never defended himself before, why would he start now?
    Anonymous -- Saturday May 28 2005, @04:17PM (#163856)
    • Hilarious! by Anonymous (Score:0) Saturday May 28 2005, @04:30PM
      • Re:Hilarious! (Score:2, Insightful)

        well i'm amazed how far i've read down this before anyone questions that it 's him. pretty gullible i'd say. or maybe others here are in the know - i didn't know 'true to you' was the famous julia's site or how close he and she are (is it? are they? do i care? no)

        admittedly the statement has a familiar turn of phrase and emphasis on 'his' total blamelessness. it is quite vintage and funny in that sense. the idea of him sitting in beverly hills a month ago thinking 'they all think i'm playing on the isle of wight but i never said i was and if the record company won't tell them i certainly won't' is very funny - and tragically disconnected.

        but as you say, here i go joining in with something unproved. why am i thinking of george galloway: 'i have never played isle of wight, was never going to play the isle of wight, never met the isle of wight' etc

        regardless of whether this is a true statement - if i'd bought tickets i'd feel furious and betrayed, and not remotely interested in whether it's moz, sanctuary or the promoter to blame.

        methadone -- Saturday May 28 2005, @06:16PM (#163874)
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  • Thank god i didnt book it. Seriously, i would have considered sueing. I live in Birmingham and a simple trip to the Isle of Wight+ ticket+ accomodation etc would have meant my summer holiday being literally WASTED on His Majesty Morrissey.

    Thank God i didnt book it! It's been advertised for about 5 months,Morrissey, for the sake of f*ck! Do you think the fans that make your bank account so fat are a bunch of idiots?(actually, i think they are now)

    Why did you release your statement NOW?

    Also... QUITE SIMPLY...i know every band cancel some gigs every now and again, but WHY DOES IT HAPPENS SO MUCH WITH BLOODY MORRISSEY???????????

    There's thousands of people here who have spent a fortune about the IoW in the past few months. Ultra-rich Morrissey couldnt give a toss.

    claude birmingham uk
    Anonymous -- Saturday May 28 2005, @04:23PM (#163857)
  • you're all over-reacting a bit. don't hate morrissey, he really DOES love us, and i know these things. all these awful things you're calling him are so unnecessary. he's HUMAN, afterall. a very busy human.

    and what of the upcoming album signing he mentioned? does this not excite anyone? am i alone? it looks it.
    Anonymous -- Saturday May 28 2005, @04:42PM (#163860)
  • A bond of trust has been abused, something of value may be lost................why waste good time fighting the people you like who would fall defending your name.................Hold on to your friends.........just bear in mind, there just might come a time when you need some friends.
    Titchy -- Saturday May 28 2005, @04:42PM (#163861)
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  • Did anyone else notice that whoever wrote that statement misspelled "realize", they spelled it "realise". No way that Morrissey would make this kind of error. You've been tricked.
    Anonymous -- Saturday May 28 2005, @04:54PM (#163863)
  • Im telling you who knows exactly what went on in the 5 years of the smiths. I recall reading somewhere that he has done something similar whilst in the smiths , " if Morrissey didnt get out of bed , then it didnt happen" or words to that effect.You can understand why Johnny said " see ya" , I wouldnt put up with that shit...would you?.Millionaire Morrissey doesnt give a shit about his fans and this proves it. Hard earned money paid by fans to see him do a 45min set , thats devotion and he could have saved his fans money but did nothing. If the statement is from Mozzer then from what he has wrote he knew he wasnt playing IOW and then blamed sanctuary , its all a load of rubbish.I worship the ground the Moz walks on but i wouldnt be star struck if i ever met him , at the end of the day he is just a guy from Mancheste. He is no more important than Doctors , nurses police officers etc etc on this planet and i think we need to remember that. I think he needs to be told exactly how the fans feel about this , if he already doesnt know.
    dragonfist -- Saturday May 28 2005, @05:07PM (#163866)
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  • Is Morrissey capable of having any kind of mature, consistent relationship with anyone? In one's teens and early twenties, this is excusable, but at forty-six, it becomes incredibly pathetic, and unattractive. It's a form of permanent adolescents, and well, shallow.

    Unfortuantley, we know how hideous the music business can be, but at some point, you have to wonder why it keeps happening to Morrissey.

    He dispalys one of the most ridiculous aspects of being a genuine loner: Not giving a fuck about anyone but himself. A lot of people with a history of low self-esteem will often fein this quality, but Morrissey is the real deal. It's absolutely clinical.

    Mother's take note: If you don't want your children to become social retards, get them off the tit. Hopefully, Morrissey's mother is reading this post.

    Anonymous -- Saturday May 28 2005, @05:08PM (#163867)
  • What odds on Morrissey parting company with Sanctuary prior to another studio album being released?
    JacquesTheLad -- Saturday May 28 2005, @05:14PM (#163869)
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    "She doesn't even like me...And I know because she said so..."
  • Morrissey,

    I hope that you are reading these comments since you obviously know of the comments from last night about IOW. The main thing that I wanted to say is that I hope that if it is announced that you are coming back to TN, on tour for the next album, that you do indeed know about it so I won't have spent a lot of hard to come by money, as a lot of the people on this site have to go to IOW.

    I was not planning on going to IOW, as it is too far away for someone with my health problems. However, I feel for all of those that have spent hundreds, or thousands, on tickets, reservations, etc. I'm really sorry and I can only imagine how you all must feel. The disappointment,the sadness, and debt, I am sure...it would be tough to get over.

    Oh, and love to you too, Morrissey! Whatever happens, I love you.

    Shell
    girlafraid33 -- Saturday May 28 2005, @06:38PM (#163875)
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  • My condolences for those who spent their hard-earned money getting tickets and booking transportation and hotels for this show.

    However, I think the lesson is clear: Do NOT spend a large sum of money to attend a Moz show unless you take out an insurance policy first. And it may not hurt to have a lawyer on hand in case of emergency. You can never be too careful.
    veradicere -- Saturday May 28 2005, @06:47PM (#163877)
    (User #8315 Info)
  • They still have not sent a link or cut and pasted Morrissey's response to him "pulling out" of IOW!

    That is one point that you can't argue with Morrissey on: Sanctuary does what it wants. If he really was involved with Sanctuary, they would've told us about him not being scheduled for IOW long ago. No one there obviously listened to the Janice Long show, either! Also, they would've NOT suggested that Deano was out of the band. It looks like they like gossip for gossip's sake.

    On these accounts, it does look like Morrissey has reason for a lawsuit. I do know that Morrissey has pulled out of gigs before, cancelled at the last minute, etc., but Sanctuary still has so much to answer for.

    Shell
    girlafraid33 -- Saturday May 28 2005, @06:58PM (#163879)
    (User #14185 Info)
  • Still have my unused ticket to Carngie hall New York....
    The Brave one! -- Saturday May 28 2005, @07:31PM (#163883)
    (User #13400 Info | http://www.myspace.com/thebraveone)
  • I love this site. The drama is so... stimulating.
    sidious -- Saturday May 28 2005, @08:04PM (#163885)
    (User #14193 Info)
  • What a great day! Woke up late because my Morrissey alarm clock didn't go off. Then I notice my favourite Moz shirt has a stain down the front so I had to change to my least favourite Moz shirt with a hole in the left pit. No time for my Moz approved veggie brunch. Then my Citroen with Moz painted on the hood runs out of fuel. Lost my job selling Moz memorabilia. Came home, cried and stained my "Last Night I Dreamt" pillow case. Fell asleep and dreamed I was at the gates of hell and who is there guarding the door feckin' Morrissey! and he won't let me in! He always has to ruin everything!!!

    (Warning: this post is for humour purposes only!)
    the write one <[email protected]> -- Saturday May 28 2005, @08:07PM (#163886)
    (User #10056 Info | http://www.myspace.com/mozzapheliac)
    "it's my life to ruin my own way"
  • The fact everyone believes this post is written by Morrissey takes some believing.

    I very, very much doubt the authenticity of this statement.

    Yes, it's to Julia. But he's NEVER communicates over the internet, or never has done, and before I reason against this being a geniune Morrissey statement, some other points;

    1. I never heard the Janice Long announcment, did you?

    2. 'True To You' is a virtually redunadant site, and if Morrissey has chosen to communicate through it, it means he has chosen Julia Riley as his spokeswoman. I know the first 'You Are The Quarry' details were released there, but still.... He knows Morrissey Solo is the direct route to the fans.

    If this statement is genuine, we have not only underestimated Julia, but unhappily misjudged Morrissey's political sense.

    3. "I can't control Sanctuary". Yes you can, Morrissey, you have them wound around your finger because you sold a million records last year. And you'd never have it any other way. They tripple backflip when you snap your fingers, so don't blame them.

    4. So you've dropped them have you? Jeeeez, this means at least a 4 year wait before a new album. Christ Alive, you posed with the Johnny Thunders guitar they gave you on signing for the last single and now you decide they're screwing you?

    5. It's amazing Morrissey's so shocked at the Isle Of White cancellation. This (I think false) announcement would lead us to believe he never knew he was booked to play it. Which is obviously nonsense.

    6. RE: NEW ALBUM. "Everything is in hand, and ready". No, this is not Morrissey writing, this is a hoaxter. There's not been a single hint that new material has been written, and if Morrissey has lyrics, he don't have no songwriters. The Alain question reeks of shit and I can't see Boz contributing under these circumstances.

    7. Okay, all Morrissey fans vote on this. On tackling the Deano question, Moz writes 'that's just the way it goes'. COME ON! Morrissey would never quote his own lyric in his first internet announcment. This IS a hoaxter.

    8. He then claims he has no control over Morrisseymusic.com. Yeah, okay. He'd have flung sixty lawyers at it as readily as he throws bean skins into the garbage. Yes, he has nothing to do with the artistic look of morrisseymusic (which is obvious) but he gets consulted on every change and inclusion. He's a canny business man.

    So we might never know, and it'll raise the Julia thing again, but I don't think this is Morrissey.

  • Nobody could ever answer my question as to whether the contract with Sanctuary was for only one studio album -- now we have the answer. They went all out on that one record (though the videos left something to be desired) and Morrissey made them a lot of money, so I'm surprised the contract wasn't extended mid-term.

    Now that we know for sure that there's a new album (great news, which most people have eschewed in favour of bashing Moz for his non-appearances) we'll see which record companies line up with offers. It's different than the post-Maladjusted years, because Morrissey had a fantastic comeback last year (a word he hates, but so be it). Does this mean that any demos written by Boz (officially a Sanctuary artist) for Moz would by proxy make the album a Sanctuary affair? I don't understand the musik bizness!

    Glad Morrissey mentioned the Fuji Rock cancellation of last year. I had bought my tickets/transportation etc. (which amounted to US$500 or so) when the word came in. I was very disappointed but moved on and sold my ticket by auction a couple days later. IOW whingers, do the same please!

    king leer -- Saturday May 28 2005, @09:17PM (#163893)
    (User #80 Info)
    • Re:Trouble Loves Him... by Anonymous (Score:0) Sunday May 29 2005, @12:12AM
    • i think that the only logical thing that is happening is that another label must be buying out his contract.....unless they are either lazy bums and figure that they can fart around because he can't go anywhere until they officially determine that they won't renes his contract, or maybe they'll have to wait until payday before they have enough money to pay the advance that he should be getting.

      i know that morrissey believed that since he is no longer part of their label and therefore, it's not his job to set the matter straight. however, he has a much bigger duty to protect not only to his fans but to his name and reputation. those last two are the most important assets that he has because they obviously stay with him long after Sanctuary has bitten the dust.
      suzanne -- Sunday May 29 2005, @12:25AM (#163909)
      (User #36 Info)
      I scare dead people.
  • wow, cleared the air with that one, clear concise and to the point.

    but, still shocking in that he shouldn't care about what gossip the boards are floating around about this or that theory. Never called for a response before.
    He must be fed up with the industry again. (a fair and just renewal of dissapointment true)
    I trust the source on this, Julia.
    but also I liked this statement for more emotional reasons, I read the statements of dissapointment from those 16 and 17 years olds that bought tickets, and think how nice that they have a response to their dissapointment.
    MasterOfWho -- Saturday May 28 2005, @09:44PM (#163896)
    (User #7664 Info)
    Is there room in your heart for a Tennant who carries a Rose? http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/
  • what about Merck M.?

    he was Morrissey's tour manager, and working for
    Santuary

    Merck and Morrissey have been seen together at
    parties, gigs and at his home after the last tourgigs

    and there's Boz signing with Sanctuary

    my thoughts is that Morrissey putting the presure on Sanctuary for a new deal,cause I bet there are
    a few recordlabels in line happy to sign him

    and there's always $$$$$$$$$$ involved, after Quarry, Morrissey can ask a bit more than the 500,000 $ he got from Sanctuary in 2004
    Celibate Cry <[email protected]> -- Saturday May 28 2005, @11:21PM (#163904)
    (User #220 Info)
    and the hills are alive with celibate cries
  • The more I read the majority of the statements of hatred in this website, the more startled I became: it was just like reading how truculently furious the crowd became in "Notre Dame de Paris" (The Hunchback of Notre Dame) when the clergy and the eminent political figures were running too late to display themselves before the public...or how the collective madness set in underpaid mine workers who were starving (but this ailment, at least, has a moral justification behind it)

    So, you love Morrissey for his music, and, in a blink of an eye, you hate him because you lost thousands? Not that I don't think what happened to you was awful, but I just can't see how it SANELY justifies statements such as the ones you made against him. Outrage for loosing money is one thing; and you should be. But using it to abase Morrissey in the most degrading possible way is a far worse kind of damage. Also you having paid all that dough to see him, as I realize, it doesn't prove you love or have ever loved him; all it proves is that it takes a financial matter, a fiasco caused by an unclear set of facts regarding IOW, for your alleged love for him to disappear like bubble bursting with a single touch...And it took only this to prove that, despite your fanaticism, or your fascination with Morrissey, you had those degrading thoughts about him already, in a dormant state, in the back of your minds, and it took this event for them to become active. You are the clinical, pathological cases, because, instead of trying to sue the record company, or fighting in court to get your money back (but you probably think Morrissey has it already sent to a Swiss account...)you act just like the insane crowd in Hugo's novel...La haine mythique...I, by the way, really recommend you read it, it might teach a thing or two about collective schizophrenia and misguided hatred...
    You might even REALIZE you are exaclty what you said Morrissey was.

    It would suffice to hear his music, though, to figure out he is not "precisely" a cold freak, or a chic egocentric dandy posing as a fashionable messiah (see, even I can make up horrid definitions, it's so easy when you can just thoughtlessly use a snappy game of words ...IT'S SO EASY TO LAUGH, IT'S SO EASY TO HATE/IT TAKES GUTS TO BE GENTLE AND KIND).

    Got art?

    Anonymous -- Saturday May 28 2005, @11:21PM (#163905)
  • really.
    Anonymous -- Sunday May 29 2005, @12:45AM (#163910)
  • Updates (Score:1, Informative)

    Morrissey,

    GET YOUR OWN PERSONAL OFFICIAL WEBSITE.

    Make your own announcements, tour details and lineup information and then there will be no one left to blame for future mistakes.
    SVENLY -- Sunday May 29 2005, @12:58AM (#163912)
    (User #13428 Info)
  • I read this and do not think it is Morrissey at all. The biggest type off is there is no evidence of wit or humor in it at all. He is slyer and craftier than that and with Oscar Wilde as a hero he relishes those printed moments. If he wrote it, it would have been a lot more interesting than that.

    On the other hand, perhaps he did write it and has lost it.
    Anonymous -- Sunday May 29 2005, @01:12AM (#163913)
  • I believe it is Moz actually.(Not that it matters, he's not playing IOW anyhow).I would love to have gone but knowing Morrissey's track-record would never travel huge distances to see him.
    Some of the Sanctuary comments are odd though.He has had a fruitful period with them and surely would want to continue this,in light of his 'wilderness years' and he ought to now trust them.
    The change is the past couple of years to actually having management-types working their socks off for him ( as with the website, concerts etc)and he has now moved from the UEA/Nottingham Rock City to Earls Court with their support.Something he always wanted,but would be ashamed to admit it.

    I've followed Moz since 1983,saw The Smiths etc and believe he is STILL as important in my life as ever.
    Just like genius like George Best,Muhammed Ali,etc...these guys are tainted,free to do as they wish,which is why we love those guys so much!
    KevinNorthants -- Sunday May 29 2005, @01:31AM (#163916)
    (User #6488 Info)
  • Some things of cause are surprising. I always thought that the contract made with Sanctuary was supposed to be long term and not only for one album. The information, that the contract ended at the end of 2004 can't be the whole truth as the live releases this year - DVD, CD and single - would not have been released without Morrissey's involvement or without a valid contract! If there has been a dispute between Morrissey and Sanctuary, it must be a fresh one (though we all know, that the media tour de force Morrissey did last year is somewhat unnatural for Morrissey and was surely done because of Sanctuary's request. That may have let to anger, but who knows?)

    The whole Deano-story is somewhat strange, too. We all know that the drum seat has always been the weakest point in Morrissey's band since 1991 and that a loss of Deano would be no reason for a cancelation. (this is not Pete Townshend after the loss of Zak Starkey to Oasis, huh?).

    But the most important fact is: there will be a new studio album from Morrissey, he seems to be working on it already (what leads to the old question, what has happened to Alain Whyte meanwhile?), and he looks forward to sign a new contract.
    Stefan Krix -- Sunday May 29 2005, @03:11AM (#163923)
    (User #357 Info | http://www.krix-s.de/morrissey.htm)
  • has Moz sung that he has a double position when the subject is fans, loving him, idol, etc.?? In YATQ, it is there at 'How can anybody think...': she told me she loves me, which means she must be insane!
    Have you ever stopped to think that these lines are not mere lyrics but can express the truth?? Same for 'I am two people' - the other one for your own sake I will never show...
    Isn't Moz just mentioning the fact that he is nice, gentle, a poet but at the same time he is all that we criticize on him on these events ($$, cancellation, etc.)?
    As for IOW... well, it is a festival, right? Let's count how many festivals Moz cancelled and how many he did go (Coachella cancelled, Spain-04 cancelled, Japan-04 cancelled).
    moz_br -- Sunday May 29 2005, @04:03AM (#163928)
    (User #12108 Info)
  • If this statement really does come from Moz,what about the fact that Roxy Music are at the IOW festival as his 'special' guests??
    Anonymous -- Sunday May 29 2005, @04:40AM (#163933)
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