posted by davidt on Monday July 31 2000, @08:30AM
MorrisseyGirl writes:

This is Part 2 of an interview with Joe Strummer by editor Jack Rabid. (The interview is from the indie mag The Big Takeover, Issue No. 46).

The most interesting (and Moz relevant) part comes after a reference to Mick Jones having caught the chicken pox:

JR: Yeah, chicken pox is very serious as an adult. Same thing happened to The Smiths’ drummer Mike Joyce. He almost died in ’84 here.
Joe: What, did he get it off his kid, too?

JR: No, he got it here in new York, after the Smiths played their U.S. Debut at Danceteria [12/31/83]. They canceled the damn show that I was going to see 4 days later at the same venue. I gave Mike hell about that when I met him in 1991 touring here as a drummer with The Buzzcocks. “It was because of you I didn’t see The Smiths in a small club, you bastard!”
Joe: And he almost died, too?

JR: Yeah, just because he spent a week in a New York hospital.
Joe: What sort of excuse do you call that? You’re hard; you’re wicked!

JR: I like to ride ‘em, I do. He was a nice guy; he could take it. That would have been nice to see: The Smiths in a small club. As a result, I never saw them until they played the Beacon Theater, far less intimate, a year and a half later, after they’d already been discovered. Would have been great, huh?
Joe: I saw Morrissey not too long ago. Well, probably years ago now. I got a call one day: “Morrissey wants you to produce his next album.” [Jack laughs] And I went, “Alright, who is this? Stop shaggin’ around.” And he went, “No, I’m Terry” from whatever label, I can’t remember, but he was serious. So we went up to see him. It was this horrible show where he was supporting David Bowie at Wembley Arena.

JR: I remember when they did that tour, yeah. Bowie was covering his song “I Know It’s Gonna Happen Someday,” which was a rip-off of Bowie’s “Rock n’ Roll Suicide,” which itself was no coincidence, since Mick Ronson produced that LP for Morrissey. So I am sure he was very serious about having you produce him. He likes working with his old heroes. You know he wrote a book on The New York Dolls before he was in The Smiths—I bet he would ask Thunders to produce him if he was still alive!
Joe: Ahh, but I wasn’t having it. The whole situation was beginning to piss me off. And his manager—it was a lady at the time—she came to me before the show and said, “So, what do you think?” And I said [snaps fingers], because I knew what he wanted to do. He wanted to cover “Can’t Explain,” that was part of the initial phone message. And I tried to imagine Morrissey singing “Got a feelin’ inside…” And I thought this was a stupid idea! So I said, “No, no. I’ve got a plan for Morrissey.” And they went “what is it?” I said, “Let’s have him cover ‘Pop Music’ by M.

JR: Whew. That would have put them off. I never liked that song.
Joe: I wanted to poke them with a stick. You see what I mean? Because the idea of trying to redo “Can’t Explain”—I couldn’t see the point of it. And I threw that in to see what they’d say, and Morrissey threw it right out! He just freaked out and left the venue.

JR: You know he was in The Nosebleeds briefly.
Joe: That’s right. Ed Banger.

JR: Yeah, he replaced Ed for like a week
Joe: What, did Ed go AWOL or something?

JR: I think it was after he went solo.
Joe: Is there any kind of documentation of that?

JR: No
Joe: Wouldn’t that be something!

JR: It was around the time he wrote that books about The Dolls, and was hanging around with Buzzcocks down at their label, the New Hormones offices. Later he became really close friends with Howard Devoto, who you also remember from the old days. Yeah, people don’t know Morrissey’s punk past.
Joe: That’s true. He kept it well hid, I suppose. Or maybe no one asked. He’s proud of it, I guess.
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  • why would morrissey need joe strummer from the clash to cover a who song? doesn't make too much sense.

    [email protected]

    ps: rockabelly, i'm still waiting.
    Anonymous -- Monday July 31 2000, @09:03AM (#1210)
    • Re:why? by J. Razor (Score:1) Tuesday August 01 2000, @10:28AM
    • Re:why? by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday August 02 2000, @03:39AM
      • Re:why? by J. Razor (Score:1) Wednesday August 02 2000, @07:38AM
  • Is it just me, or is Joe Strummer looking and sounding increasingly like a worse-for-wear John Noakes?

    (this will be completely incomprehensible to non-Brits - sorry)

    Anyhow, I thought that Moz shared a flat with Devoto at one stage . . .
    David T (different) -- Tuesday August 01 2000, @12:37AM (#1228)
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  • strummer (Score:1, Interesting)

    Ive heard Strummer had been asked agin to produce his new album. Boz Boorer was also present at Strummers Brixton show earlier this year. So the whole thing isnt as unrealistic as it sounds.
    Anonymous -- Tuesday August 01 2000, @03:33AM (#1231)
  • Oh, it's always been bleedin' obvious Morrissey has a punk past; at that time, 1976-1978, you was either "there" or you was off wanking to all the crap that was on the radio way back then! Morrissey was definitely "there" - Manchester being one of the all-time hip centres of pop music. That's what first drew me to The Smiths (1985), my punk roots recognised one of the brethren!
    J. Razor -- Tuesday August 01 2000, @10:40AM (#1244)
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  • I have a Nosebleeds song on one of my records

    Joe strummer is still very cool though...perhaps not his music other than with the clash...but he is still cool
    Anonymous -- Wednesday August 02 2000, @09:19AM (#1265)
  • Joe seems a nice guy, I must say. But I was wondering, what LP did Moz want him to work on? This was 1995 after all, immediately after Southpaw, so the Maladjusted songs would have been some way down the line. Did Moz want to rush straight into the studio at the time - but then scrapped the whole idea? I've heard that he started to record a rockabilly LP during the mixing of Kill Uncle, but changed his mind... so maybe he did it again...

    Thoughts anyone?
    Dirk McNasty -- Friday August 04 2000, @04:37AM (#1285)
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