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Tuesday July 01, 2008
08:53 PM
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my eyes!! they sting!!

Aggh! I'm feeling so tired. My eyes are aching from staring at this screen for so l-o-n-g- & forgetting to bring my glasses. Just now, I have been trying to sign up for a gmail account. However, I want my email to be kinda boring...just my name...however, my name is taken & the only alternatives they provide are like "mc-something or other 8977"...whatever that means.

I was reading an article in the weekend paper (The Australian)about how treatment for post-traumatic stress is all wrong. It said that in the case of tragedy, whether earthquake or bank hold-up, that what kind of counselling that is provided (or not) has a big impact down the line for the individual. They gave a case of a policeman who was at Port Arthur (Australia's bigges mass murder) & he was given a lot of debriefing & relieving what happened. The counsellor suggested that he would go through certain 'stages' (like rage, anger, depression) and he did.

But what research has suggested is that having a PTS counsellor SAY that these things will happen, often means that they do. I guess it could be like the 'power of suggestion'. What is found to be better was labelled the 'tea & biscuit' approach, not really talking about the specifics of what happened. Also, taking the person back to the scene & having them lose their fear was also found to be good.

I found it a really interesting read...and this is probably way of topic, but I find even when I'm talking to my two children I sometimes suggest things like "were you scared" and then they say "yes"...so, it has made me think if I am suggesting too much that they are/or should be scared & then they are....hmmm....

Something which made me very happy was reading on yesterdays forums - the mention by Germaine Greer of Morrissey in her Gaurdian column!!! Sounds silly...but I was so thrilled that she even knew who he was.I didn't think that she would. But it made my heart very content.

Best dash, got to meet my supervisor to print her corrections of my work - as she couldn't email them to me...yeah

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my 2 cents (Score:1)
i agree with you 100%
the 'power of suggestion' often creates a self forfilling prophecy
in the recovery process...
se repenti fort <gulfalco@yahoo.com> -- Tuesday July 01 2008, @10:59PM (#306501)
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  • Re:my 2 cents by M-in-Oz (Score:1) Thursday July 03 2008, @02:56AM
    the island (Score:1)
    your entry made me think of this book I was trying to read (i've never finished it despite starting it a few times) - the island by aldous huxley...
    in it, this utopian type society lives on an island and their method of dealing with pain or trauma is sort of, delve into it, and then use self hypnosis and positive suggestion....
    a guy trying to find this island shipwrecks on it, he tries climbing up the rocky embankment, sees a snake in the rocks, freaks out and falls. 2 kids find him and he's lying there in pain and shock and the little girl asked him what happened and he kinda panics and says, i fell, but he doesn't want to talk about it because he's freaking out and she keeps asking him to describe what happened - I saw a snake, I got scared and I fell... I saw saw a snake, I got scared and I fell.... etc. she makes him say it over and over and then she says, "you fell and hurt your leg, but you're ok..." and he said his pain and anxiety went away.... something about how if you run up to someone after they've hurt themselves and start saying, Oh, Poor You!!! oh no!!! that makes it worse... but if you act calm and soothing, it will calm and soothe the person too...
    or meditation and positive reinforcement for healing sick people.....
    I do think there's somethign to that - I mean, not as a substitute, but as an additional treatment......
    I wonder if you're right - asking your kids if they're scared puts 'scared' in their head - identifies it and reinforces it.... interesting.
    maybe having them describe it over and over might cause it to subside....

    but then again, huxley was huge into lsd so I guess one has to take his theories with a pinch of salt :)
    everybody's lost * -- Wednesday July 02 2008, @08:39AM (#306544)
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    ...a chat with you and somehow, death loses its sting.
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    • Re:the island by M-in-Oz (Score:1) Thursday July 03 2008, @02:59AM
      • Re:the island by Anonymous (Score:0) Thursday July 03 2008, @03:14AM
        Examination room or tea room? (Score:1)
        Going into detail about what happened can help one to learn about a situation. An undetailed tea and biscuits approach is fine if the lesson to be learned isn't priority but for instance if it was a serious near casualty, it's best to examine how it became so near.

        Then again, it depends...if there is no time anyway, or resources, to prevent it in future, what's the point in understanding how to prevent it. Party! Tea, biscuits, beer, it's all the same.
        redpathetic <redpathetic@yahoo.com> -- Wednesday July 02 2008, @09:18AM (#306546)
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        Happy in this final acceptance of his own absurdity...Albert Camus
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