Today's NME - Conor McNicholas responds

[Uncleskinny]

The only mention of Morrissey anywhere in the mag is the letters page - nearly two pages are given to the subject of last weeks issue, the court cases are not mentioned anywhere. I tried to scan the other letters, but failed - and sorry for the Flickr resizing - you can just make out his response.

Also today, there was a banner headline in the Independent, "Is Morrissey A Racist", followed by a two page article inside, as Old Sib has pointed out here.

Remember folks -

Peter

 

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

Ooh! Pretty piccie! Please post piccie to Prink?

sorry... desperate attempt to keep my overcute alliteration going. Conor knows where he can stick his hamburger.

 

[Musings]

The only mention of Morrissey anywhere in the mag is the letters page - nearly two pages are given to the subject of last weeks issue, the court cases are not mentioned anywhere. I tried to scan the other letters, but failed - and sorry for the Flickr resizing - you can just make out his response.

Also today, there was a banner headline in the Independent, "Is Morrissey A Racist", followed by a two page article inside, as Old Sib has pointed out here.

Remember folks -

Peter

THANKS, Uncleskinny! I can't seem to get a copy of the NME here, for love or money! (Not that that's a bad thing,necessarily...)

 

[vicarinatutugal]

thanks for this.

 

[mell]

Uncleskinny! Thanks so much for providing the scan. I really appreciate your efforts.

 

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

Backpedaling can be dangerous, depending on what kind of bike you're riding. On some, pedaling backwards simply jams on the brakes. You screech to a halt and you might get thrown over the handlebars. Ouchie.

 

[9 x Fined]

What's the bet Paddy from Sussex is the NME intern.

 

[Uncleskinny]

Backpedaling can be dangerous, depending on what kind of bike you're riding. On some, pedaling backwards simply jams on the brakes. You screech to a halt and you might get thrown over the handlebars. Ouchie.

That's the sound I hear too.

Peter

 

[suparni]

thanks for posting this.

Conor made it clear that Morrissey is not racist but also said "Morrissey thinks black people are OK ...but he wouldn't want one living next door to him." is that what I am hearing?

Dear Mr. McNicholas,

I realize that you are the editor of the "new" NME so it seems to me that I should be at least a little bit intimidated and reluctant to challenge your writing skills... however, surprisingly and sadly I am not; and I must point out that you are no match for the "old" chap...

"Perhaps we can go to the modest mouse gig together"

vs.

"Uniquely deprived of wisdom, Conor..."

Looks like you should run on home and sharpen your pencil Mr. McNicholas!

love,
suparni

ps... I doubt Moz thinks your calling him Mate is cute or even cleverly defiant... Once again showing off the infinite artistry and craftsmanship displayed in your magazines point of view and expression.

 

[ADAM]

Conor McNicholas should RESIGN, not RESPOND.

He should've been escorted from the grounds with whatever office supplies he could fit in his pockets, and nothing more. Tw@t!

 

[suparni]

Conor McNicholas should RESIGN, not RESPOND.

He should've been escorted from the grounds with whatever office supplies he could fit in his pockets, and nothing more. Tw@t!

well it seems we can agree on something Adam! right you are and amen to that!

 

[The Seeker of Good Songs]

Nice picture of old Mogsy. He appears fit and trim..working out with weights maybe.

 

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

I have some copy paper boxes in my garage. I would gladly pay to overnight one to England if Conor would agree to pack his shit into it and leave.

Boy, I'm not taking this personally, am I?

On second thought... that would be really funny. He'd open the box, pull out a nice empty Weyerhauser box and his ratty little brow would wrinkle, as he read my very-polite note. Hehehe.

 

[Worm]

Thanks as always for the post, Peter.

Conor didn't say much here. The only thing worth noting is that he's sticking to the misleading position that Morrissey threw his opinions at the NME unprovoked. This, despite the fact that the tenor of the piece was "Let's ask the old codger what he thinks about the world and see if he'll spew some venom!" Which he did, first about pop music and then about immigration. And anyway immigration was a big topic in the news when Morrissey made his comments, so it's hardly a shock that he raised the subject in a "state of the world" interview.

P.S. EDIT: I think it's hilarious that Conor calls this "The Debate". Throwing a bucketful of pig shit in the face of your erstwhile idol does not constitute conversation.

"Here at the NME, we're all about positive dialogue, and we feel immigration is a vitally important topic to discuss. We didn't want to discuss it with Morrissey, but since he mentioned it, we thought we would engage in a meaningful, positive dialogue with one of the smartest men in pop music, because meaningful, positive dialogue is something everyone should engage in.

Q: Morrissey, although you are clearly not a racist, and the notion that you are a BNP supporting fascist has no traction here at the NME, it is always good to clarify your position vis-a-vis your potential seething hatred of non-white people, which you clearly don't have as someone who doesn't stand for racism, bigotry, and hatred but we should check and remind people that you are not in fact a slimy, racist cocksucker who enjoys machine-gunning immigrant babies in their cribs. Are you not?"

 

[Jones]

There's no backtracking there. My view is IPC are confident Morrissey has no case. A large organisation won't risk losing all that money just to back up a tiny little rag.

I suppose they could be banking on him not having the money or stomach to go to court but I doubt they'd make that mistake. They must know he's a bit mental when it comes to defending his name.

 

[2-J]

Even if they are confident... many have gone to court confident, and lost.

Not saying Moz has a great case cos let's face it he doesn't. But maybe he does have some kind of case.

Also Conor saying they didn't bring it up isn't conclusive cus 1) from Jonze's comment seems that Conor was ready to pounce on anything remotely contoversial (the 'black man' comment) and 2) even if Moz mentioned this in passing it was their choice to do what they did with it and spin it to shit, etc.

 

[PregnantForTheLastTime]

The NME made up questions and inserted them into the interview after it had taken place. They didn't do it to make him look good. And it almost doesn't matter what kind of proof anyone has, it's plain to anyone who can read what they printed.

 

[Jones]

The NME made up questions and inserted them into the interview after it had taken place. They didn't do it to make him look good. And it almost doesn't matter what kind of proof anyone has, it's plain to anyone who can read what they printed.

What questions? How do we know that? Morrissey has given us a couple of examples of a few word changes but to be honest if they were the best he can come up with, then his case is exceedingly weak.

 

[suparni]

P.S. EDIT: I think it's hilarious that Conor calls this "The Debate". Throwing a bucketful of pig shit in the face of your erstwhile idol does not constitute conversation.

"Here at the NME, we're all about positive dialogue, and we feel immigration is a vitally important topic to discuss. We didn't want to discuss it with Morrissey, but since he mentioned it, we thought we would engage in a meaningful, positive dialogue with one of the smartest men in pop music, because meaningful, positive dialogue is something everyone should engage in.

Q: Morrissey, although you are clearly not a racist, and the notion that you are a BNP supporting fascist has no traction here at the NME, it is always good to clarify your position vis-a-vis your potential seething hatred of non-white people, which you clearly don't have as someone who doesn't stand for racism, bigotry, and hatred but we should check and remind people that you are not in fact a slimy, racist cocksucker who enjoys machine-gunning immigrant babies in their cribs. Are you not?"

hahahaha

 

[Worm]

What questions? How do we know that? Morrissey has given us a couple of examples of a few word changes but to be honest if they were the best he can come up with, then his case is exceedingly weak.

The examples we have are weak, yes. That doesn't mean that's all he's got in his arsenal. He's not going to waste his ammo on a blog statement.

Also, what might seem flimsy could be argued into something weightier in court. Take the change from "You sound like my dad" to "You sound like a Tory", adding an extra layer of political meaning. The change is small but because it's so small it sticks out more glaringly: the editors had absolutely no reason to change that line, since "Dad" would have suited the author's needs just as well.

If Morrissey can demonstrate that similar edits were made, he might have a shot at winning.