Sun: Morrissey wades into Falklands row

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The Malvinas are Argentine because it belongs to the territory,

What territory? The made up one Argentinians harp on about that doesn't actually exist and never has done?

The determination no exist because The people can´t to choose wich country receive order...

Sorry, no idea what that means.


For example I can´t to go to your country and want to choose a determination with Argentine....

Exactly, and for the same reasons that Argentina can't do so with the Falklands either (not legally anyway). Glad we agree on something!
 
Are you insane, mad, lunatic?

The Wind That Shakes the Barley

Nope, none of those things.

I'm not sure what you think a film about the Irish war of "independence" and civil war tells you about Northern Ireland.

What I think you need to do is try books.
 
Nope, none of those things.

I'm not sure what you think a film about the Irish war of "independence" and civil war tells you about Northern Ireland.

What I think you need to do is try books.

"The Queen also has the power to give back the six counties to the Irish people, allowing Ireland to be a nation once again," Morrissey added. "The fact that she has not done so is fascism in full flow. What else could it be?"
May 2011

You ignorant idiot. You are bloody Serb, for sure.
 
And Why do you stay in Malvinas Now...???

I don't, personally. If you mean, 'why are the Falkland Islands not governed by Argentina?' the answer is that very few people who live there want to be governed by the Argentine state. They remain British at the behest of the Islands' people. Democracy etc.
 
[quotes] And Why do you stay in Malvinas Now...??? [/quote]

The Falkland Islanders have been there for nearly two centuries, and still wish to remain British. How long have Argentians been there (excluding the invasion)? Never.
 
Nope, none of those things.

I'm not sure what you think a film about the Irish war of "independence" and civil war tells you about Northern Ireland.

What I think you need to do is try books.

Bloody Sunday (Irish: Domhnach na Fola)—sometimes called the Bogside Massacre—was an incident on 30 January 1972 in the Bogside area of Derry, Northern Ireland, in which 26 unarmed civil-rights protesters and bystanders were shot by soldiers of the British Army.

You are f***ing moron and fascist!!!!!
 
And your opinion is now effectively null and void.

The deadJohn (Jackie) Duddy (17). Shot in the chest in the car park of Rossville flats. Four witnesses stated Duddy was unarmed and running away from the paratroopers when he was killed. Three of them saw a soldier take deliberate aim at the youth as he ran. He is the uncle of the Irish boxer John Duddy.[38]

Belt worn by Patrick Doherty. The notch was made by the bullet that killed him.[39]
Mural by Bogside Artists depicting all who were killed by the British Army on the dayPatrick Joseph Doherty (31). Shot from behind while attempting to crawl to safety in the forecourt of Rossville flats. Doherty was the subject of a series of photographs, taken before and after he died by French journalist Gilles Peress. Despite testimony from "Soldier F" that he had fired at a man holding and firing a pistol, Widgery acknowledged that the photographs showed Doherty was unarmed, and that forensic tests on his hands for gunshot residue proved negative.[38][40]
Bernard McGuigan (41). Shot in the back of the head when he went to help Patrick Doherty. He had been waving a white handkerchief at the soldiers to indicate his peaceful intentions.[6]
Hugh Pious Gilmour (17). Shot through his right elbow, the bullet then entering his chest as he ran from the paratroopers on Rossville Street.[38] Widgery acknowledged that a photograph taken seconds after Gilmour was hit corroborated witness reports that he was unarmed, and that tests for gunshot residue were negative.[6]
Kevin McElhinney (17). Shot from behind while attempting to crawl to safety at the front entrance of the Rossville Flats. Two witnesses stated McElhinney was unarmed.[38]
Michael Gerald Kelly (17). Shot in the stomach while standing near the rubble barricade in front of Rossville Flats. Widgery accepted that Kelly was unarmed.[38]
John Pius Young (17). Shot in the head while standing at the rubble barricade. Two witnesses stated Young was unarmed.[38]
William Noel Nash (19). Shot in the chest near the barricade. Witnesses stated Nash was unarmed and going to the aid of another when killed.[38]
Michael M. McDaid (20). Shot in the face at the barricade as he was walking away from the paratroopers. The trajectory of the bullet indicated he could have been killed by soldiers positioned on the Derry Walls.[38]
James Joseph Wray (22). Wounded then shot again at close range while lying on the ground. Witnesses who were not called to the Widgery Tribunal stated that Wray was calling out that he could not move his legs before he was shot the second time.[38]
Gerald Donaghy (17). Shot in the stomach while attempting to run to safety between Glenfada Park and Abbey Park. Donaghy was brought to a nearby house by bystanders where he was examined by a doctor. His pockets were turned out in an effort to identify him. A later police photograph of Donaghy's corpse showed nail bombs in his pockets. Neither those who searched his pockets in the house nor the British army medical officer (Soldier 138) who pronounced him dead shortly afterwards say they saw any bombs. Donaghy had been a member of Fianna Éireann, an IRA-linked Republican youth movement.[38] Paddy Ward, a police informer[41] who gave evidence at the Saville Inquiry, claimed that he had given two nail bombs to Donaghy several hours before he was shot dead.[42]
Gerald (James) McKinney (34). Shot just after Gerald Donaghy. Witnesses stated that McKinney had been running behind Donaghy, and he stopped and held up his arms, shouting "Don't shoot! Don't shoot!", when he saw Donaghy fall. He was then shot in the chest.[38]
William Anthony McKinney (27). Shot from behind as he attempted to aid Gerald McKinney (no relation). He had left cover to try to help Gerald.[38]
John Johnston (59). Shot in the leg and left shoulder on William Street 15 minutes before the rest of the shooting started.[38][43] Johnston was not on the march, but on his way to visit a friend in Glenfada Park.[43] He died 4½ months later; his death has been attributed to the injuries he received on the day. He was the only one not to die immediately or soon after being shot.[38]


They are null and void also, you moron, you Serb.
 
"The Queen also has the power to give back the six counties to the Irish people, allowing Ireland to be a nation once again," Morrissey added. "The fact that she has not done so is fascism in full flow. What else could it be?"
May 2011

You ignorant idiot. You are bloody Serb, for sure.

Interestingly this thread was started because Morrissey has once again been talking utter nonsense about a subject he clearly knows very little about. I see a pattern emerging here.
 
"The Queen also has the power to give back the six counties to the Irish people, allowing Ireland to be a nation once again," Morrissey added. "The fact that she has not done so is fascism in full flow. What else could it be?"
May 2011

You ignorant idiot. You are bloody Serb, for sure.

Right. You opinion is based solely on the that of an undereducated celebrity. Well done.

1. The Queen doesn't have any such power. Northern Ireland remains an integral country of the UK with the consent of its citizens.

2. There are two countries on the island of Ireland: Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland.

3. Northern Ireland's devolved government is democratically elected and representative of the ethno-religious communities who make up its population.

Morrissey's understanding of nationhood and identity is steeped in orthodoxy and, to say the least, quaint.

Read more widely :)
 
The deadJohn (Jackie) Duddy (17). Shot in the chest in the car park of Rossville flats. Four witnesses stated Duddy was unarmed and running away from the paratroopers when he was killed. Three of them saw a soldier take deliberate aim at the youth as he ran. He is the uncle of the Irish boxer John Duddy.[38]

Belt worn by Patrick Doherty. The notch was made by the bullet that killed him.[39]
Mural by Bogside Artists depicting all who were killed by the British Army on the dayPatrick Joseph Doherty (31). Shot from behind while attempting to crawl to safety in the forecourt of Rossville flats. Doherty was the subject of a series of photographs, taken before and after he died by French journalist Gilles Peress. Despite testimony from "Soldier F" that he had fired at a man holding and firing a pistol, Widgery acknowledged that the photographs showed Doherty was unarmed, and that forensic tests on his hands for gunshot residue proved negative.[38][40]
Bernard McGuigan (41). Shot in the back of the head when he went to help Patrick Doherty. He had been waving a white handkerchief at the soldiers to indicate his peaceful intentions.[6]
Hugh Pious Gilmour (17). Shot through his right elbow, the bullet then entering his chest as he ran from the paratroopers on Rossville Street.[38] Widgery acknowledged that a photograph taken seconds after Gilmour was hit corroborated witness reports that he was unarmed, and that tests for gunshot residue were negative.[6]
Kevin McElhinney (17). Shot from behind while attempting to crawl to safety at the front entrance of the Rossville Flats. Two witnesses stated McElhinney was unarmed.[38]
Michael Gerald Kelly (17). Shot in the stomach while standing near the rubble barricade in front of Rossville Flats. Widgery accepted that Kelly was unarmed.[38]
John Pius Young (17). Shot in the head while standing at the rubble barricade. Two witnesses stated Young was unarmed.[38]
William Noel Nash (19). Shot in the chest near the barricade. Witnesses stated Nash was unarmed and going to the aid of another when killed.[38]
Michael M. McDaid (20). Shot in the face at the barricade as he was walking away from the paratroopers. The trajectory of the bullet indicated he could have been killed by soldiers positioned on the Derry Walls.[38]
James Joseph Wray (22). Wounded then shot again at close range while lying on the ground. Witnesses who were not called to the Widgery Tribunal stated that Wray was calling out that he could not move his legs before he was shot the second time.[38]
Gerald Donaghy (17). Shot in the stomach while attempting to run to safety between Glenfada Park and Abbey Park. Donaghy was brought to a nearby house by bystanders where he was examined by a doctor. His pockets were turned out in an effort to identify him. A later police photograph of Donaghy's corpse showed nail bombs in his pockets. Neither those who searched his pockets in the house nor the British army medical officer (Soldier 138) who pronounced him dead shortly afterwards say they saw any bombs. Donaghy had been a member of Fianna Éireann, an IRA-linked Republican youth movement.[38] Paddy Ward, a police informer[41] who gave evidence at the Saville Inquiry, claimed that he had given two nail bombs to Donaghy several hours before he was shot dead.[42]
Gerald (James) McKinney (34). Shot just after Gerald Donaghy. Witnesses stated that McKinney had been running behind Donaghy, and he stopped and held up his arms, shouting "Don't shoot! Don't shoot!", when he saw Donaghy fall. He was then shot in the chest.[38]
William Anthony McKinney (27). Shot from behind as he attempted to aid Gerald McKinney (no relation). He had left cover to try to help Gerald.[38]
John Johnston (59). Shot in the leg and left shoulder on William Street 15 minutes before the rest of the shooting started.[38][43] Johnston was not on the march, but on his way to visit a friend in Glenfada Park.[43] He died 4½ months later; his death has been attributed to the injuries he received on the day. He was the only one not to die immediately or soon after being shot.[38]


They are null and void also, you moron, you Serb.


DAVID T, don't you dare to remove this post. IT IS SO IMPORTANT.
 
Right. You opinion is based solely on the that of an undereducated celebrity. Well done.

1. The Queen doesn't have any such power. Northern Ireland remains an integral country of the UK with the consent of its citizens.

2. There are two countries on the island of Ireland: Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland.

3. Northern Ireland's devolved government is democratically elected and representative of the ethno-religious communities who make up its population.

Morrissey's understanding of nationhood and identity is steeped in orthodoxy and, to say the least, quaint.

Read more widely :)

Shots were fired by a mindless military,
The people ran they were unarmed
Across the world we will read of Derry
And those who died by oppressive hands.
—Cruachan, "Bloody Sunday"
 

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