Gothenburg, Sweden - Way Out West Festival (Aug. 11, 2016) post-show

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Setlist:

Suedehead / Alma Matters / You Have Killed Me / Ganglord / Speedway / You’re The One For Me, Fatty / Ouija Board, Ouija Board / I’m Throwing My Arms Around Paris / World Peace Is None Of Your Business / Kiss Me A Lot / Scandinavia / The Bullfighter Dies / Meat Is Murder / Everyday Is Like Sunday / The World Is Full Of Crashing Bores / First Of The Gang To Die / All You Need Is Me / Jack The Ripper / I Will See You In Far-Off Places / What She Said / Irish Blood, English Heart

setlist provided by Sarcasmos, @mr_morran / Twitter (link posted by I_Am_A_Disco_Dancer).


  • Hotade bojkotta Morrissey - då ändrade sig stjärnan (8 photos by Jenny Ingemarsson) - GP. Link posted by Sarcasmos.

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  • Morrissey krönte torsdagskvällen (3 photos by Björn Larsson Rosvall/TT) - Metro. Link posted by Sarcasmos.

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  • Morrissey från Way Out West (20 photos by Nora Lorek) - ROCKFOTO
 
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Was First of the gang the mexican version? If it is mexican?, like a watered down version, certainly preferred the up tempo version
 
But MORE importantly when is 'VegAnarchy in the UK' out?

No idea. It's on The List but nobody knows if it will make the Final Cut. There are 500 songs to choose from. Zozo will decide which tracks are used. BB thought this song was a certainty but Zozo communicated something about 'fish' on the Ouija board, a new conceptual framework which has 'upset the apple cart'. We're still processing this new thing about 'fish'. It's something to do with Kate Bush's 'Fish People' concept but we're awaiting another update from Zozo. Sorry if this is obtuse but that's just how it is....thank you for your interest in BB's inaugural LP which is scheduled to 'drop' as and when the stars align. If indeed they ever do! Either perfection is achieved or there will be no releases. Unfortunately nobody knows what 'perfection' entails but we all have faith and will endure as we have done since 1976 when BB refused to take part in the punk rock shambles as he dismissed it as a media con, which of course it was.
 
I'm not a hater, And I'll have an amazing time at the Texas shows as I always have. But this isn't a great setlist. And I've always liked the song meat is murder, not sure with so many fans are against it. even without the message, it's a passionate song.
 
Despite some rumours here the festival started off very badly with Libertines maybe playing on Friday instead and fans at the festival and media reported that this years line up is very weak and disappointing and the Moz gig had not atmo at all maybe due to the freezing conditions for this time of year.

Max sold veggie products at festival but at same time sell meat menu under way out west banner at every restaurant. The way out west logo is on the menu at every Max and the menu is very meat based and focus on bacon and jalapenos. They also work for minimum wage and avoid giving the kids working there any form of social right that every other worker in Sweden get.

Moz sleeping with the devil and also eating candy/sweets that are animal based so not veggie at all.
Not big on hate but I prefer facts but most marxists are not into facts it seems.
 
Funded by meat sales across your land, please visit a Max tomorrow and read their lit up menu behind counter and admire the way out west logo.

This is seriously problematic in that it appears that by endorsing 'Way Out West's temporary meat-free guilt fest, Morrissey is also signalling that it's ok to feel veggie at a festival then go back to munch-murder in Swedish suburbia for the rest of the year. This is really not a good look for a 'radical' artist....
 
Thank you for this periscope.

He said he was delighted to be in this completly vegan festival, and since the night was sold out he asked the rest of the world please take note. He added: "no death for sale, no pain for sale, no torture for sale... apart from me" :)

It was patently NOT a 'completely vegan festival' and Morrissey's grotesque conflation of his personality issues with the plight of animal torture/slaughter really is too much. f*** Morrissey, what a total self-aggrandising Virtue Signalling wanker he still is. He has learnt nothing since I handed his arse back to him on a plate over his back-stage rider at Zagreb. Suck my Brummie balls, Morrissey...
 
I'm from Gothenburg. It's a vegetarian festival.

The festival went vegetarian in 2012 and milk-free in 2015.

They do still serve ice cream and cheese.

http://www.wayoutwest.se/way-out-west-blir-mjolkfri-2015/

Milk Is Murder

Cheese Bleeds:

Morrissey: guilty of cow-slaughter for 3 decades as charged by BrummieBoy. Sentence: posthumous ridicule via #VegAnarchyInTheUK lyrics. Ditto the same fate for butter advert 'punk hero' John Lydon. BB is 4Real, he means it maaaaan!
 
I like how the camera pan suddenly pick up speed when it gets to that large stretch of grass devoid of people.
there were probably more people at that tiny norwegian venue he played a few days ago.
Yeah that patch of grass behind the sound desk without a view.
 
I'm from Gothenburg. It's a vegetarian festival.

The festival went vegetarian in 2012 and milk-free in 2015.

They do still serve ice cream and cheese.

http://www.wayoutwest.se/way-out-west-blir-mjolkfri-2015/

As a 'community' we need to talk about Morrissey and, perhaps, stage an intervention at the UK Cult Convention in Manchester next Saturday.

Some think that BB brought Morrissey's alabaster crashing down out of pique or spite, some think he did it to try and save Morrissey from eternal ignominy but whatever the reason, the only issue is The Fate Of The Animals. We have now, once again, seen Morrissey appropriating the language of Animal Liberation to sell himself as Radical Chic to Swedish festival attendees who, in their Nordic-Dairyistic delusionality think that going 'vegetarian' somehow helps the plight of animals. Morrissey appears entirely culpable and complicit in illiciting this false consciousness with his bizarre claims that a festival that doesn't serve Meat but still serves Ice Cream and Cheese somehow exemplifies The Future rather than the rancid Past of unexamined animal holocaustism.

It is entirely unacceptable for Morrissey to stand on stage Virtue Signalling moral superiority because he has a foible about eating Meat whilst he condones the consumption of Dairy at his concert performances. Either he is genuinely commited to performing only in 'safe spaces' where the animal holocaust agenda is expunged or he is prepared to compromise for expediency and financial profit.

It now appears to be beyond serious doubt that Morrissey has endorsed yet another 'vegetarian music festival' after his shameful capitulation to the Dairy Gods of Eavis-Bono-Glastonbury. If he thinks his Vegetarian Gradualism means that one day he will headline Way Out Vegan West then he is totally barking. At the first Glastonbury festival in 1970 'free milk' was included in the ticket price as the gormless hippies revelled in their pseudo-rebellion against The Man whilst engaging in Slaughter-Torture-Rape-Gorge on milk from the enslaved cows of Glastonbury. By allowin the torture-slaughter footage of the 'Meat Is Murder' video to be censored as a condition for fluffing for U2, hapless Morrissey was reduced to sucking Bono and Eavis's cock just like the original gormless hippy 'rebels'. None of these eejits are rebels of any significance, they are narcissistic egomaniacs chasing money and pseudo celebrity.

There is no such thing as an ethical 'vegetarian' or 'vegetarian music festival', they are indistinguishable to the Carnivore version. You cannot lecture people about Meat whilst ignorning Milk. And allowing a bit of cheese on a veggie burger is like allowing a bit of adult-child fellatio because it's not full rape: both are abominations.

Morrissey needs to abandon Vegetarian Gradualism and embrace Zero Tolerance Of Animal Abuse: this means No Cheese. No Ice-Cream. No cow milk cappucino. Or he needs to accept he is just another circus clown on the festival circuit and carry on sucking Eavis' cock. BB could care less. He will walk on stage and denounce the entire history of recorded music as a conspiracy against the animals. Then the punk rock revolution will finally begin. "#VegAnarchyInTheUK....it's coming sometime....maybe...your Veggie dream has sure been seen through"

BB
4Real
Small Heath in the house!
 
I like how the camera pan suddenly pick up speed when it gets to that large stretch of grass devoid of people.
there were probably more people at that tiny norwegian venue he played a few days ago.
That "large stretch" of grass is behind the sound desk and there's no view from there.
 
That "large stretch" of grass is behind the sound desk and there's no view from there.

no view from there? is it an elevated soundboard?
there is no soundboard to be seen, just empty acreage, which would have provided a perfect view of the proceedings.
 
For all the people trying to make a career out of watching Morrissey crowd stats:

Morrissey in California | True To You
http://true-to-you.net/morrissey_news_160812_02

Mozbot Angeles- can't get enough of him

Since these concerts are in vegan ground zero, he might even get away with a raw vegan demand or fruitarian demand.
 
no view from there? is it an elevated soundboard?
there is no soundboard to be seen, just empty acreage, which would have provided a perfect view of the proceedings.

Ah, I see the home for simpletons have given you an hour at the computer for good behaviour.
 
fruitarian demand.

a frutarian demand, you dont say, mate?
as far as the sold out shows, all his sold out shows have tons and tons of unsold platinum tickets, completely empty rows, etc etc.
 
If this is true (and the information is contradictory but on balance sadly suggests it is) then it's damning, yet another nail in the coffin of Morrissey's credibility. What is the point of doing interviews where he says it's a pre-condition of signing a live contract that animal products will not be available to the audience, only to ignore that moral proviso when it's expedient to hoist a lucrative festival gig fee?

Why lambast the delightful Harpa in Reykjavik (who were looking at ways to meet this stipulation only for Morrissey to flounce off) yet ignore the presence of a burger chain sponsor clearly listed as a 'partner' on this festival's official website?

I personally do not see the point of this moralistic nonsense, especially when he was stuffing his gob with cheese and selling cheezy goujons to his fans just over a year ago. It would make far more sense to invite in a local Vegan food concession as an additional choice/alternative than to make a huge bluster about this issue when it's convenient then ignore it when it's convenient or lucrative to do so.

Morrissey only gave up eating Dairy because he was shamed into doing so by myself and others on this site. To now see him backsliding once again from his supposedly hard-core animal rights position is just ridiculous. Either ignore the presence of Carnism menu items at gigs, provide Vegan alternatives alongside, or refuse to play anywhere that will not stop selling meat and dairy when he plays. The final choice is the one he claims to insist upon but the evidence from Gothenburg shows he is once again being devious, truculent and unreliable. Did he really think nobody would notice? Or find it entirely valid to denounce this gaffe as yet another clownish act of idiocy after blathering about his moral indignation with regard to animals used as human food?

From perusing the festival website it's clear that some positive efforts have been made but then you see that the main rationale is human-centric environmental awareness, not animal rights.

Findus states

"When Way Out West took the decision to be a vegetarian festival we were both impressed and curious."

http://www.wayoutwest.se/en/partners/findus/


Let's be very clear: A vegetarian music festival is no different to a Carnivore music festival as far as animal rights are concerned. If there's milk, cheese or eggs, there's no difference. None. There's no menu items listed so one can only assume that 'vegetarian' means 'vegetarian including milk, cheese & eggs' otherwise they'd write 'took the decision to become a vegan festival', which they don't.

Tutti Frutti are also to be applauded:

"As everyone knows Way Out West has been completely vegetarian since 2012, so it is the perfect opportunity for us to introduce Tutti Frutti’s yummy gelatine-free sweets to those that come by and visit us in Fazer’s booth."

http://www.wayoutwest.se/en/partners/tutti-frutti/


Then we see Oatly state:

"Our collaboration with Way Out West started in 2014. Why our collaboration came about is not hard to understand: In 2012 Way Out West decided to become the most sustainable festival in the world. They stopped serving meat and immediately decreased their environmentally impact by 25%. Not bad we thought. So together we decided to take it one step further and in 2015 the festival become milk free, reducing their impact even more."

http://www.wayoutwest.se/en/partners/oatly/


This is excellent stuff but the confusion begins as it states that Way Out West 'stopped serving meat' which is fine, but did it stop serving milk, eggs and cheese? And how does that relate to the sponsor notice from Max which obscures as much as it reveals?

"It’s time again! Over 30 000 people will gather at a festival. A festival that has a stance and that actually take actions on it. We like that, and that’s why it is an honor to be a part of it. Food is one of our time biggest climate challenges, especially red meat. That is why we’ve put up the goal that, by the year 2020, 1 of 3 orders will be something other than that. And we hope that the rest of the restaurant industry will join us.

More specifically: this January we launched our Green-family, and that was our biggest success. Our next step is the worlds first all vegetarian Max, and this will be launched at Björngårdsvillan with a view over the festival, Gothenburg and a tastier world."

http://www.wayoutwest.se/en/partners/max/


How did this 'mission statement' translate into the festival environment? Did it mean that only 'vegetarian Max' was served at Way Out West, in which case, did that include cheese as an ingredient? Or does it mean that there is a goal to transition to non-meat by 2020? Again, does that mean Vegetarian or Vegan as they are polar opposites when it comes to animal rights? In the publicity photo for this sponsor Max cheese on burgers is clearly visible. Vegan cheese? I doubt it!

This may seem pedantic but it isn't. There is no gradualism with animal rights, no road-map to a less oppressive world. Either it's vegan or it's animal oppression. Morrissey made a fool of himself on 'Larry King Live' by claiming that it was 'too hard' to switch to Veganism and 'too expensive'. Total nonsense, particularly with regard to pop stars and rich festival goers.

It seems from the information available that Morrissey once again turned a blind eye to the presence of animal products at a music festival, presumably for financial reasons and also because he believes in a gradualist approach to animal rights just like Max Burgers do: In other words he is an animal welfarist not an animal liberationist. I think that is his position for the last 3 decades of singing 'Meat is Murder' whilst eating 'humanely produced' cheese: there is no such thing! Never was.

So, in conclusion:

An attendee at this festival clearly states that a sponsor of the festival, 'Max' served a Way Out West menu that 'isn't veggie at all', strongly suggesting meat burgers were indeed available & the picture used on the festival website seems to show meat burgers.. Even if there were only 'vegetarian' burgers, the issue of dairy remains to be resolved. Can anyone else who was there provide further clarification?

I have no problem with Morrissey playing at semi-demi-quasi veggie festivals that serve dairy and meat alongside alternatives but if he does so he has zero right to sing 'Meat Is Murder' whilst his audience are chowing down on 'vegetarian' burgers containing cheese, just as he had no right to sing that song whilst his gut was churning from his pre-gig back-stage rider treat of 'cheese' for all those years. A vegetarian festival is no different to one that serves roasted meat.

The only logical, coherent position is to either only play explicitly vegan festivals or not make food such a issue with his absurd Virtue Signalling: "look at me! I care about animals! you lot don't!" He has wasted over 3 decades on this nonsense, surely he's not going to try and spin that delusional rubbish yet again?

If it was a vegan festival, he deserves plaudits and kudos for walking the talk. If it was yet another 'vegetarian compromise' in his List of the Lost opportunities to walk the talk then he deserves brickbats. Can anyone provide a definitive answer? Was 'Way Out West' a 'vegetarian' or a 'vegan' festival?

I assume the menu at Manchester will be absolutely 100% Vegan? My spies will, of course, be checking both front of house and back-stage.

I await further updates on GothenburgGate from BtBB and other passionate contributors to this excellent online electronic cafe/creche. I also expect a lot of angry responses for, once again, daring to challenge the authenticity and integrity of your Cult Leader.

with every good wish
BrummieBoy



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