Administrator of AllYouNeedIsMorrissey.com is accused of stealing from Morrissey fans

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  1. Theo

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    Over at AllYouNeedIsMorrissey, the most current thread begins with this troubling post:


    Quiffaa has so far been unavailable for comment.

    Two of the other commenters over there are calling for the post above to be censored. I'd find it incriminating if the allegations were deleted instead of responded to.

    Is that site run by a thief who refuses to pay money owed to generous Morrissey fans?
     
  2. Theo

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    I thought this breaking story at AllYouNeedIsMorrissey.com most appropriately belonged in the main section of this forum, as it relates to the controversies about Morrissey fan sites and who runs them -- issues Morrissey and his band raised this year.

    And it probably would've been better in, at least, Off Topic.

    But, out of respect to the honest man who runs Morrissey-Solo, and because these are just allegations, I decided to place it in the Pigsty.
     
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    Re: Administrator of AllYouNeedIsMorrissey.com is accused of stealing from Morrissey

    Some time ago Quiffa was all day long here.. however he seems to be disappeared in some kinda limb.
    It's terrible to hear he steals from Morrissey's fan.
     
  4. Iona Mink

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    I don't understand how "public shaming" is not ok but pubic reprimanding is. I suppose it depends who is doing it.

    And where is this "elsewhere" they speak of?

    Oh yes, and Merry Christmas everyone!
     
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    Who cares what happens there , that site is just a VERY BAD copy of Solo. End of story!
    Cheers Moz
     
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    While it's no surprise I'm not a fan of Quiffaa's, I'm more impressed with JJ's display of solidarity for his friends. I find that admirable.
     
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    Re: Administrator of AllYouNeedIsMorrissey.com is accused of stealing from Morrissey

    & don't lend her a fiver!

    I wonder if Juke will post that picture of baby Hitler :D

    He should change his name to whistleblower.
     
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    Lol. :p
     
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    Quiffaa will be changing it to "Banned" before long
     
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    You know, since Theo blazed this Trail of Awkward, I'll go ahead and take a walk on it. God knows enough people have drawn conclusions on my character based on not-all-the-facts, why not wax theoretic on Quiffaas.

    I read about all this a couple months ago on facebook, there was a whole blow up there about it and I read the perspective of the people who weren't paid. My theory is that Quiffaa is just broke and a little to proud to admit it or something. I mean maybe she's just being a snake, but it seems like her approach of not answering inquiries about when she plans to return payment is similar to when you let the answering machine take the call from the creditors. The problem is the people in question are NOT an corporate entity who extended the credit in the hope of acquiring the interest for lack of payment, they were real people who are probably equally as broke and were doing a favor for who they thought was a friend. I think that's why this is rubbing people the wrong way, that lack of empathy and human interaction. THere's a coldness in her approach.

    Whatevs, I guess none of it is really our business anyway.
     
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  13. Girl-with-the-Thorn

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    Christ, this whole thing has spread to here too? I saw that thread today and even though I've replied to it, it does make me uncomfortable. Firstly that it needed to be brought up publicly in the first place, and secondly the way the argument is going. It's made me feel a little uneasy, if I'm honest. :squiffy:
     
  14. Theo

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    If someone's okay being a deadbeat, that says a lot about that person, whether it be with regards to their creditors or to money they owe their friends.

    And when you behave in a way that reveals poor character and a lack of integrity, one of the ways society punishes you is that word gets around. Also, I don't buy your excuses. Why would she be afraid of someone thinking she's having trouble putting the money together, but she's okay with those people feeling they were duped by a shady crook? It's not like she was dealing with a thuggish dopeboy who spotted her some crack and is all, "Fuck you, pay me!". If she owes them money, she should have made it a priority to let them know what's up.

    People don't like having to stress about someone owing them money. If you can't pay 'em back right away, you ought to let them know what's up before they start feeling they're gonna have to confront you about it. If the allegations are true, we're talking about 6 months here. That's ridiculous.

    Anyway, more from that thread:

    Also:

     
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    I see the line over at that forum is that no one should be allowed to form opinions on this because it wasn't for our eyes.

    Eh? If you go around ripping people off (allegedly) that becomes part of your reputation. How convenient for the person of low morals if every time she does others wrong she could pretend it never happened because, supposedly, no one has a right to speak about it or find out about it.
     
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    Do you really think that these people have been accusing Quiffaa of not paying them back for tickets and they just made it up out of thin air? That's pretty far-fetched.

    Quiffaa went on and on about how this site was evil because it's owned by someone who loves freedom of speech and that's "disrespectful" because Morrissey can't handle anything but complete hero worship. She wanted everyone to flock to her crap site where it's a bunch of rules about what you're not allowed to say, plus a gigantic banner of Morrissey and a few boring threads filled with those pathetic creatures of Morrissey's fanbase who call themselves "frinkers". And she gets on her high horse about her holier than thou Quaker cult.

    Well, either she has or she hasn't paid people back for the tickets. If she has, then she's a victim of a massive defamation campaign led by Jukebox Jury. If she hasn't, and she's been non-responsive to their inquiries for 6 full months, then she's a piece of shit.
     
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    Compliments of the season to you!

    Best as I can tell, what happened in that thread is this. Jukebox Jury posted because he felt he had no other recourse, having exhausted all other avenues. A couple of Quiffaa's best online friends quickly jumped on the thread to demand it be brushed under the rug. It should be deleted immediately, they said. It was somehow "wrong" to air these issues in public, even though the alleged victims were apparently left with no other option and a public airing was probably the only way left to get their money back. The thread already has nearly 700 views, but almost everyone is afraid to comment in it.

    Those two people call themselves "Scarlet Ibis" and "Je Suis Julie". They, along with Quiffaa, used to post thousands of messages on Morrissey-Solo, almost exclusively in the "Frink" thread. The "Frink" thread is where creepy worshippers of Morrissey spend their lives posting pictures of Morrissey that they masturbate to.

    This web site brought these "Frinkers" together, but it's an "evil" web site because it has freedom of speech and sometimes things Morrissey and Boz Boorer don't like (such as opinions on a new song -- which is the reason Boz Boorer flipped out) get posted.

    A couple of other folks, outside of those two "Frinkers", tried to offer Jukebox Jury some support, but they had to start each post with a line like, "Saying this is probably not going to make me particularly popular....." To which Scarlet Ibis insisted that the public airing about a theft after 6 months of being spun and ignored by Quiffaa is worse than the theft itself. Come again?

    Jukebox Jury was then pressured to censor his own postings.

    Hopefully, though, the public airing will resolve the matter.

    “Owe no man anything but love,” in the words of George Fox, the founder of Quakerism.
     
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    Sadly, Morrissey encourages this sort of hero worship, just as he encourages the owner of the mostly worthless True-To-You site to literally waste her life and her family fortune in worship of him. A better man would advise such people that that level of hero worship well into adulthood is unhealthy, but it feeds Morrissey's ego and he's stated many times how selfish he is.

    And now the message has been sent. If you create a web site you'd better be as worshipful as Julia, and hostile to free speech, or you might have lawyers threatening you with frivolous lawsuits and security thugs escorting you out of venues and telling you you've been banned for life.

    Instead we should have Boz Boorer endorsed sites, run by pathetically worshipful "Frinkers" who censor anything they deem "disrespectful" to Morrissey while they apparently steal money from fellow fans. Because how can we tolerate a "fan" posting that "The Kid's A Looker" isn't the greatest song of the 21st century?
     
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    I actually feel sorry for da Juke. Don't "Scarlet Ibis" and "Je Suis Julie" do go on when they say they shouldn't discuss it openly :p

    It is quite hilarious.

    I don't think i have ever fully read anything Theo has ever posted here; but i have today. :thumb:
     
  20. Girl-with-the-Thorn

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    Yeah, that bothered me as well.
     
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