whats the difference between Bono and God?
God doesn't walk down the street in Dublin thinking he's Bono.
whats the difference between Bono and God?
God doesn't walk down the street in Dublin thinking he's Bono.
Man hands on misery to man.
It deepens like a coastal shelf.
Get out as early as you can,
And don't have any kids yourself
Ha! That's cute, Bluebird.
Re: the damning photos of Bono and slightly sleazy-looking friend with the young girls -- even though I was the one who posted them here, I do believe they could be semi-innocent, in the sense that Wormy is talking about. [May I call you Wormy, BTW?] I've heard that Bono is a very friendly, outgoing, and flirtatious guy who genuinely loves people, as rare as that is. He could have been just posing with the girls in an overly theatrical fashion, as is his wont. If you've ever seen him carry on with the women he pulls out of the audience at a U2 show, you'll know what that's about.
Then again, he could be a sleaze, we just don't know.
Yes, I totally agree that it's just as likely that bono is playing theater and having an innocent fun ride out in St. Tropez with some friends and fans. It's true. But even if he IS out being a little more mischievous its not all THAT terrible...
His friend on the other hand is kind of icky if you ask me... like even if he is not being sleaze with that girl... he would if he could... I dunno... bono is sweet with the holding the heart and looking to the sky - at least it implies love, poetry, feeling, sweetly and lightly... the other guy just implies creepy old man... to me at least. like one of those concert grinders... Ick.
Last edited by suparni; March 27, 2009 at 02:29 PM.
not to pick some fight here but, what an ignorant statement. Stipe never said there was anything wrong with people who identify as gay or straight....they might exist as well...god knows there are certainly a lot of people who identify that way.
talk about labeling, i've never heard such an ignorant statement "garden variety gay."
maybe i'm just in a mood today, cause truth is queer people catch that shit all the time, sometimes from people who claim to "get" it....its just annoying how queer people are talked about as if they aren't in the room.
i don't know maybe you're queer and not accepting of people who choose to identify...my guess is thats not the case though.
I am a photographer by profession and I do a lot of weddings (also commitment ceremonies from time to time...) and then there is another aspect... the typical scene where all your friends get married by the same age... what did they all just HAPPEN to fall in love at the same age? With people from the same general class and background for the most part... that person they fell for happened to be single? That person happened to also fall in love with them too??? I dunno... I think I sort of sense where you are coming from but it does kinda sound like you might be in a little bit of a mood today... just a touch???? perhaps????? I think most people seek a mate according to conditioning and predictable needs or desires... rather than letting energy flow and the heart lead despite the mind. I think most people have garden variety relationships and love lives in general... they are garden variety people... and garden variety energies... therefor garden variety sexual entities... gay or not gay.
Last edited by suparni; March 27, 2009 at 02:46 PM.
no i think there are garden variety heterosexxuals...for sure, but people don't talk about them as often as it is easy to talk about "gay" people as a group.
you don't hear people talking about heterosexuals as being extremely stereotypical. I do wedding video's too! ironic really.
it didn't sound as far away from the statement "Gay people are cool so long as they don't act gay" or you know, you've heard it before.
I wouldn't assume because you identified as heterosexual that i could then make the statement about you "hmm...what a garden variety heterosexual"
just because someone chooses to identify as gay, well what does that mean, and is it so bad if they act how ever the fuck they want to.
even acting like a stereotypical gay person is different then talking about a stereotypical heterosexual. A heterosexual is less likely to be judged for acting "heterosexual" if they even see there actions that way then a gay person for coming off "gay."
I'm at that age where all my straight friends are getting married.
Some people generalize or hate on what is considered to be a gay lingo or subculture... some people also assume that a gay man will definitely know how to decorate their house - generalizations happen everywhere... both good and bad.
I am not having to deal with gay judgements but I am judged for not wanting a baby or for not marrying - in my society and culture that is very strange... WHAT TO DO? I get over it.
I definitely judge macho meatheads and guidos oiling themselves up on the beach drinking and trying to get laid like giant walking hormones... and I know plenty of people who do.
Some gay people are fucking annoying... some aren't... Some girls are bigger than others... in the end - any intelligent, interesting person is going to shine through whatever shirt they are wearing that year... and people will meet as individuals and learn from their differences and similarities. Garden variety meatheads, garden variety gays, garden variety married people, garden variety spoiled brats... garden variety is just another word for dull and insensitive... and I am afraid that most of human race, gays and heteros alike... fall into that catagory.
Have a great season - soon we will be workin weddings every weekend - at least here in ny... may is the time!
Last edited by suparni; March 27, 2009 at 03:10 PM.
Oh and I admit that i sometimes judge bono because he is so short... like "he is just a garden variety short man... always trying to get attention and prove something..."
I am guilty of this.
However, like I said it's not so much blaming the girl for the adultery-- that would be lame. It's more about using the media to get noticed. I don't think that's "bitchy" of the girl, just annoyingly opportunist. I think she knew what she was doing by posting that on Facebook.
Whether he's innocent or not Bono was an idiot to let his photo be taken. For that he deserves blame. And maybe more, but who knows. All I know is that Bono is the greatest rock singer ever and without him the world would have been destroyed a long time ago.
Okay, maybe I'm exaggerating slightly.
see and thats a little bit more accessable as funny because no one's out there trying to convert short people or kill short people or make them feel sub human cause they are short. same with "garden variety heterosexuals" that satement can be seen as funny becuase there isn't a growing fight to define heterosexuals so you can kill them off.
where as in the case with other minorities, like african americans, gays etc etc its a little bit less funny when put into the context of...oh yeah last month some kid got beat up across from where i live for coming off as "gay"
and i see what you mean sometimes we forget these things go on, because we don't want to kill gay people, we don't "hate" gay people or we aren't even "threatened" by gay people but there is definetly a "fight" going on as to whether gay's deserve the same rights, or even so much as to live and work freeyly. which is scary.
not to be all serious this friday. : )
Poor Bono - he can't help being short-ish! Short men get almost as much stick as overweight women.
To the young lady from Loo-Zee-Ann: my sincere apologies if you were hurt/pissed off/offended/slightly annoyed by my garden variety gay designation. I didn't mean anything by it, it was meant as a light-hearted comment. I'd like to think that anyone with a real grudge against gay people wouldn't even come into a Morrissey forum - their heads would explode!
appology accepted. i get where your coming from.
the internet is a weird place, you know you can talk freely but you don't nessisarily know to who.....
its not like a dinner table of friends, even though you'd like to believe it is...i mean maybe in someways because we're all morrissey fans, but we live in different places and times and its hard to know someone to get the context of what they are saying.
we're totally chill.
i mostly just hang out in the frink thread...which is also ironic, but the Ineffable is always the best stuff.
i like what johnny is wearing in your sig, cool patter as well.
oh lord i suppose I sound very ignorant bashing short people and meatheads... at least compared to you guys. I am outta here!
Stop it, suparni, or I shall cyber-kick you. Stay and speak freely of meatheads and short people and... who else is it you hate?
Jilla, I'm glad you're no longer bothered and that you like my sig photo of Johnny - howevah! That photo's days are numbered, since someone PM'd me and said the photo reminds them of Cliff Richard. [shudder]
I dunno... I guess I tend to give the young woman the benefit of the doubt in terms of innocence at that age. Young women are so often viewed as sex objects and thereby deamonized... I mean just look at the ads...
Easy to forget that this is a kid... when you are 19, you are a kid... boobs or no boobs... objectified and drooled over by old pervs like bonos friend or not. If she was in a smiths shirt and jeans with a few pimples and flat chested you might not objectify her and understand that maybe she is just a 19 year old who likes a charismatic man.
I hate to be all acting like i have reason to defend her... I just hate what is done to women in these situations where basically its the VERY SAME BULLSHIT RELIGIONS PULL being like "she knows what she is doing" and "she is using this for her career..." What the hell kind of experience does a 19 year old actually have that allows them to know exactly what they are doing?
You can go jump off a cliff with the preists who say that women also tempted adam to eat some apple of sin and that women are evil and there to temp man away from heaven and all this other shit... That is where this "she knows what she is doing" comes from - bullshit fake christianity spewed out by preists and politicians who are the mafia of the soul! All this blaming the shit on the girl comes from crappy old crusty disgusting and crippling religions that fuck us all over... and thats why women are objectified and desired and also deamonized (both sides of the same coin.)
Fuckin kid is 19 and bono is like the most famous person in pop... Girl has no idea that if she falls in love with him and does one wrong move (like posting something on facebook when she is drunk) he can have her cut out and watching him from the last row of Giants Stadium before she even knows what hit her.
haha that realization alone just sucks and makes you want to be careful with how close you get to the man...
So whatever... everyone is just projecting their own bullshit onto the pop star AS USUAL! Just makes me want to puke when its all got these woman hating religious roots to it. Fuckin kid is 19...
Last edited by suparni; March 27, 2009 at 10:51 PM.
nicely put Suparni...
as long as i'm talking about avitars, you have one that always from a distance looks like a waist band, like a body...then you look closer and its morrissey laying on tracks...seriously gets me everytime.
Bring back The Catherine Wheel and Ned's Atomic Dustbin!!!