Bono on Morrissey

[5am]

True but many people who are married truly are attracted to both sexes. I know a few people. They stay married and committed because they found the person they want to stay with but it doesn't stop them from looking.

The bisexual community does get crapped on alot. It doesn't have to be one way or the other, there can be that in between world. Michael Stipe taught me that. And I love people like him or Morrissey who do not actually label themselves. They are just sexual beings. Now the press call them gay all the time but neither have ever said, , "I'm gay".

Do you think bisexual people 'look' more than others? I would guess not.

I too love Morrissey (and others) for not putting a label on their sexuality. I think it's so brave.

[biru]

are you a hater?
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uhh, Bono cheats on his wife, like a lot, ive read
personally, i find that "at a minimum" to be annoying

Bono hater? I seriously don't care about him... about Morrissey, that's a different story... I love him, so no. What were you talking about there?

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

Well it doesn't matter what we read, it doesn't make it true. I am one who really has to witness certain things to believe them. Fans, press whoever make up stories all the time about famous people nothing new. And that's really a bad thing to accuse someone of when you have no proof.

it is true that there have not been any pictures or video of Bono actually committing adultery
but, uhh, im no Bono follower at all and i have repeatedly read about his unfaithfulness over and over again just through happenstance
which given his high and mighty attitude concerning other matters just always struck me as a bit queer
(its likely the only reason i remember the repeated accusations of him being a philanderer in the 1st place )
but no it is has not been "proven beyond a reasonable doubt" that Bono is an an adulterous lech with a taste for girls 30 years younger than him

[lux girl]

Bono's wife is beautiful, dunno know what she's doing with him though

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

Bono hater? I seriously don't care about him... about Morrissey, that's a different story... I love him, so no. What were you talking about there?

just hate in general, i dont like the idea of you being a 'hater'

[Mars_Rover]

I love U2's music, but they are human beings not saints.

Prepare to be disillusioned (and that's The Edge's mega-yacht that they're partying on): http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/bono-c...ls-in-bikinis/

[biru]

just hate in general, i dont like the idea of you being a 'hater'

Of course not! I'm a lover!

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

Of course not! I'm a lover!

good, glad thats settled, now let's blow this thread and i find a better one baby

[suparni]

I love U2's music, but they are human beings not saints.

Prepare to be disillusioned (and that's The Edge's mega-yacht that they're partying on): http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/bono-c...ls-in-bikinis/

The age thing is a little bit weird, just because it seems to me he should wait or find someone at least over 20 - because at that age - emotionally - I think it's the older, more powerful, and married persons responsibility to recognize that a partner that age just might not understand what they are getting into in terms of the dynamic of dating a married, older, not always accessible, powerful person; emotionally she may not understand just what kind of a cliff she is jumping off. Honestly, Bono or not Bono - any older person should understand that, especially an artist or musician. It seems irresponsible on a human level.
As for the married thing... well... yawn. I am pretty sure Bono and his wife have an open relationship - she seems like a pretty strong lady and I am sure she knows whats up... he is in france for cryin out loud. I am not saying that I would want the pain of dating him - but if someone chooses that rough road of dating a married man - I really don't find it dissapointing that he chooses to go with other people... its not really that big of a deal... esp since I am sure his wife totally knows about it... open marriage... seems much easier than hiding if they want to be together and he also wants to hang out with other people or have mistresses or something. I just kinda feel bad for that girl - she looks like she is having fun - but I somehow guess that over a couple years seeing him (if thats the case) it could get a bit painful.
Anyway some of the tunes are pretty good to me... and he does try to give proper respect to Moz from what I have heard... thats a good thing.

[suparni]

oh and if that girl posted all that publicly she probably does not REALLY want to be relating with him anymore... I would think that kind of disclosure on facebook is pretty much saying (perhaps unconsciously) "I want out of this relating..."

[Mars_Rover]

The bisexual community does get crapped on alot. It doesn't have to be one way or the other, there can be that in between world. Michael Stipe taught me that. And I love people like him or Morrissey who do not actually label themselves. They are just sexual beings. Now the press call them gay all the time but neither have ever said, , "I'm gay".

I agree with you, but what is the story with Stipe? I know he came out as a bisexual, but then in the 90's he did an interview with a major magazine and said actually he's gay, not bisexual.

Did Stipe then say he was misquoted, or has he pretty much gone with the gay definition?

[Worm]

I am pretty sure Bono and his wife have an open relationship - she seems like a pretty strong lady and I am sure she knows whats up... he is in france for cryin out loud.

Can I pose a little question?

If it's possible for us to imagine that Bono has an open relationship with his wife, is it not also possible for us to really strain our brains and imagine that maybe these photographs are perhaps innocent and that Bono's mistake was posing "theatrically" for a 19-year old girl's Facebook page?

No, I'm pretty sure he cheated on his wife, too. But try reading the article again starting with the assumption that this is a story fabricated on circumstantial evidence.

A crazy assumption, granted. I mean, it's not like a 19-year old with modeling and fashion industry ambitions would ever use a celebrity to generate publicity for herself, right?

[stipey]

I agree with you, but what is the story with Stipe? I know he came out as a bisexual, but then in the 90's he did an interview with a major magazine and said actually he's gay, not bisexual.

Did Stipe then say he was misquoted, or has he pretty much gone with the gay definition?

In 2001 the same time Reveal was released Time magazine did an article and misquoted him big time. No matter what he's going to get the gay label rather he wants it or not. He has said how much he's enjoyed also being with women, he's mentioned how he didn't feel he really fit's in the gay community, etc. But as he said no one wanted to hear what he had to say.

Here is a transcript from a short interview Stipe did on MTV some years back.

Sexuality and desire are very fluid things and in a world that tends to think of things as one way or the other, there’s another and I fit into the Other.
Nobody wanted to hear that in 1994. People who define themselves as straight are challenged by it, because it challenges their ideas of their own sexuality. People who define themselves as gay or lesbian are upset by it because they went through quite a struggle to define themselves as gay or lesbian. So people didn’t really want to hear what I had to say which is, “I don’t fit into either one of those, I’m somewhere in the middle”. I don’t want to be labeled as bi-sexual because that’s just another label. Lets come up with some term that covers all the basics, that’s where the word “Queer” is a little more all encompassing.

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

Can I pose a little question?

no, you can't
& speaking of Bono's cheating ways, I recall stuff being written about him being with

Andrea Corr now when i read about that, i felt not only jealous of him
but well, i mean, who could blame

him really , but more than one other person(other than his wife) is a pattern folks

[suparni]

Can I pose a little question?

If it's possible for us to imagine that Bono has an open relationship with his wife, is it not also possible for us to really strain our brains and imagine that maybe these photographs are perhaps innocent and that Bono's mistake was posing "theatrically" for a 19-year old girl's Facebook page?

No, I'm pretty sure he cheated on his wife, too. But try reading the article again starting with the assumption that this is a story fabricated on circumstantial evidence.

A crazy assumption, granted. I mean, it's not like a 19-year old with modeling and fashion industry ambitions would ever use a celebrity to generate publicity for herself, right?

Sure worm, I said that I am sure his wife knows whats up. I am not suggesting that he is surely having a love or physical affair with this girl.

I was basically addressing the "worst case scenario assumption" that the article and the poster kind of points to.

I was reacting to the disappointment in those who stray from marital bonds and I was also offering my view on how I feel an older, more experienced, and powerful man should conduct himself if he is doing so with a very young woman... in my view and experience.

It is also experience that leads me to believe (personally) that there is no way that guy is holding that girls leg in that manner and not at least making out with her... (not Bono... the other dude.)

I really don't know or care if Bono cheats on his wife. I was just attracted the subject matter of powerful, committed in a long term relationship, charismatic, rich men getting involved with much younger women... I tend to chime in on subjects that I know a little something about. And thats all I'm gonna say about that. :|

Also remember... its often very easy to blame the young woman in all of this... perhaps too easy. careful with that! i'd say... she is a student... and at 19 I can't remember that kind of hustle.... it starts when you have to pay your school loans off... not while you are spending them.

Oh and my open relationship assumption is not just assumption... I am pretty sure I heard that somewhere - in one of the many articles or bits I have read about bono over the years.

gnite.

[suparni]

oh and I am not really sure how it is... or if it is possible that his wife does not cheat on him. I sure as hell would... sorry bono... but he is no Moz in the looks and charms dept.

This should actually be about whether or not anyone can blame HER for cheating on him. I think he is 5ft 2 or something... jumping around with a megaphone. Fine for U2 or a concert or whatever... but gosh... get the girl a vacation with a basketball player please...

(and in case you wonder, worm... the basketball player bit is a joke... I don't assume sexual relations everywhere I look... quite the contrary usually I ((like most people)) project my own reality ((like it or not)) of such connections arising very rarely - like the 5th full moon in the 3rd eclipse on the winter solstice type shit... so don't assume I see relationship every time i see a photo of two people in a bathing suit... I was just addressing the implied if not stated.)

[Mars_Rover]

In 2001 the same time Reveal was released Time magazine did an article and misquoted him big time. No matter what he's going to get the gay label rather he wants it or not. He has said how much he's enjoyed also being with women, he's mentioned how he didn't feel he really fit's in the gay community, etc. But as he said no one wanted to hear what he had to say.

Here is a transcript from a short interview Stipe did on MTV some years back.

Sexuality and desire are very fluid things and in a world that tends to think of things as one way or the other, there’s another and I fit into the Other.
Nobody wanted to hear that in 1994. People who define themselves as straight are challenged by it, because it challenges their ideas of their own sexuality. People who define themselves as gay or lesbian are upset by it because they went through quite a struggle to define themselves as gay or lesbian. So people didn’t really want to hear what I had to say which is, “I don’t fit into either one of those, I’m somewhere in the middle”. I don’t want to be labeled as bi-sexual because that’s just another label. Lets come up with some term that covers all the basics, that’s where the word “Queer” is a little more all encompassing.

Thank ye very much, Stipey - I'm glad to hear he hasn't gone "garden variety" gay on us

In other news: Andrea Corr - be still my beating heart

[Worm]

Also remember... its often very easy to blame the young woman in all of this... perhaps too easy. careful with that! i'd say... she is a student... and at 19 I can't remember that kind of hustle.... it starts when you have to pay your school loans off... not while you are spending them.

I wasn't blaming the girl so much as pointing out that there are a few ways to interpret the photos.

Personally I think they're somewhat damning. You're right about Bono's friend. There's more there than "Say cheese!"

I've also learned not to trust these kinds of photos in the current media environment.

[stipey]

Thank ye very much, Stipey - I'm glad to hear he hasn't gone "garden variety" gay on us

I met him a few times, he likes to look in my eyes and flirt with me.
He wrote Moz a fan letter back in the 80's, that's pretty cool.

[suparni]

I wasn't blaming the girl so much as pointing out that there are a few ways to interpret the photos.

Personally I think they're somewhat damning. You're right about Bono's friend. There's more there than "Say cheese!"

I've also learned not to trust these kinds of photos in the current media environment.

I wont argue with that! The media is ridiculous and I can photoshop images to create any situation I want to. Gosh Bono certainly has gotten a lot of airtime out of me this week...

I am just in from Carnegie and Moz looked DASHING and fantastic in his tux and the sound at Carnegie was very good... nice experience... hahah I don't have any energy for lil bono right now... It's a mystery to me why that girl would want to hook up with him anyways to be honest!

And worm, that girl probably IS a bitch... but I hate when people always blame the girl...
She is lame posting that on her facebook though... I'd say. Open relationship or not, Bono is a dad and his family and kids deserve a bit of respect and privacy despite the agreement (if any) concerning their marriage and affairs. I would not want pics of my dad or husband or even my part time lover doing that posted up on the internet...

So that girl...whether or not anything is her "fault..." she is pretty lame posting pics of herself partying with bono on facebook.