I really do not blame Morrissey for things like releases and tickets. I do think that such things are out of his beautiful hands!!!
''Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months''
i agree with you about ticket distribution on the whole.the internet has killed the the atmosphere in concerts in the last few years.not so long ago when you had to physically go to a shop and get tickets,sometimes that meant staying outside a shop door all night in the freezing rain,thats when you got real fans and real atmosphere at gigs.these days people/touts just sit at home and just snap up tickets with credit card after credit card,leaving dedicated fans with a bad taste in their mouth.
o.k i have a theory
1. firstly i live in the U.S so maybe things are different, and i haven't had the forture of trying to buy morrissey tickets, i was in college in santa Fe.....So i don't know how this whole thing works but i do seem to realize taht their is short notice on his gigs? and I hate to be an a-hole and propose that its being done on purpose but here's why it might be.
You know how morrissey talks about how its so easy to consume things esp music compared to how it use to be (thus all the singles) he enjoys searching things out, that makes them special because their is a will to have them and to discover and to quest and to love them you know....
could it be similar with the tickets? i think it very well could be similar. I mean what makes me love morrissey's music is that its not just everywhere, its like a little secret un touched by whatever ( i know i'm so eleqoant right now...p.s i'm dyslexic and spelling is a problem as well, i am sorry about that)
I like morrissey because i have to decide that "yes! I want to go get morrissey tickets, i'm going to go through some effort to get them, and god knows he wont be coming to Louisiana where i currently live....anticipation is a really wonderful thing. Which i could also relate to his eroticism vs sexualness....
just giving a philisophical twist to the whole thing. Does it make him look egotistical because he doesn't advertise conventionally? also as far as adds and stuff goes...don't you think its kind of cool that you aren't constantly bombarded with advertisments, doesn't it make it feel a little bit more like your own and less cheap, less "gee i don't know what i'm going to do tonight..." morrissey doesn't need to sell tickets to those people he's already got enough loonies who love his music.
just some thoughts, and like i said what do i know. I like the chase though!
You never know, with TTY being updated maybe Moz will say ello to us again. If he doesn't, let's all go out and buy Live at The Hollywood Bowl dvd!
I've been a fan for over 20+ years (since the days of the smiths) and it wasn't until last year when he had a residency at the hollywood palladium that I got to see him live for the first time. There were many times that I tried to get tickets but they'd sell out in a few minutes, other times I was traveling when he was performing here in l.a. and other times, particularly when I was a struggling student, I simply couldn't afford tickets. Did I blame him for it, no, it's luck and/or circumstances. Compared to other singers I think he does a pretty good job of communicating with us and touring a significant amount to give people a chance to see him either in their hometowns or elsewhere.
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@Dead End Kid: I found your opinion very interesting and agree with most parts. Keep on posting!
@Dave: I agree with you too, not really interested in cover versions of Morrissey songs.
And I heard so many things I failed to understand at all
the fans have been bled for a while now, so morrissey's got to accept some blame. rca, sanctuary and decca have all released cd 1# and cd2# etc as well as vinyls in order to make fans buy all if they want all the songs, when the 4 or 5 songs could easily be put on 1 cd. thats only my opinion though.
Here's an idea:
Do a poll to see how many people actually paid cover price for their ticket for the show(s) they are going/have seen on this tour.
The dedicated ones could ask people leaving the venue after the show if they minded telling. By then the touts should be gone and less risk of hassle. Wonder if the venues would co-operate?
Don't ask me, though, I havn't got a ticket, yet....
has this been tried before?
Would it do any good?
Could enough accurate info be gathered to make it worthwhile?
How about this......Morrissey starts an "official" fan club. Dues are $20-30 per year. You sign up and get access to goodies such as tour tickets. Fan club members get tickets based on seniority. Those with higher seniority get best tickets. These tickets go on sale thru the fan club website BEFORE they go on sale to general public.
This is what Pearl Jam has been doing for years and it actually works pretty well. Before you harp on the "yeah I want front row seats and I'll never get 'em because I joined late", PJ did a lottery for a few rows this year. To switch it up, they randomly picked fans to sit in rows 1-2, 8 and 10 for all their shows this summer.
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When the people fear their government there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty -- Thomas Jefferson
and only one concert i didnt get cause it was sold out..that was sonic youth in berlin 2006..I wanted so badly to go since the next day (sunday) was my first morrissey gig and this would have been the perfect combination: saturday:sonic youth sunday : morrissey..
I wasnt registered at ebay back then nor did I had a credit card
and only for moz did travel to the UK in 2008
as most of the bands I like do tour my country ..only Moz doesdrop by every 6,8 years or so
so i just didnt go to the sonics 9 ago i would have thought of byuing from the touts..but i also didnt have money left anyway
maybe most of the bands i like arent that popular?or the reason that its different to get tickets here in germany..cause i do remember the moz ticket for germany 06 were avaiable longer as when they got sold in the US/UK...
but germany is like..what the biggest music market and people here do love concerts and are just as dedicated to go to concerts as everywhere else..arent the touts here not as present at least online maybe..hmm?
.and I must say I have never seen this rush for tickets(sold out in 10 minutes )as with moz...
yes I wonder too why he dont just announce a whole tour and he only announce them piece by piece..have any journo asked him about that?
and the one day before the sale goes on start notice is int really i his typical style, isnt it?..2 months previous is normal in his case right??
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Morrissey asked my cousin where he was from. He answered Compton, which to Morrissey replied"Oh, so you're straight outta Compton aye?"[QUOTE from Ready With Ready-Wit;830350]
Ich weiss nicht, zu wem ich gehöre-ich glaub ich gehör`nur mir ganz allein"(I dont know to whom I belong to,I think I only belong to myself)Friedrich Holländer-1932-
Lifeguard, save me from life,cause it's the only life I'll ever have. Moz
"Mein Kopf ist ein Labyrinth,mein Leben ist ein Minenfeld"