Its like sailing on the Titanic with an Ostrich on lookout duty...

Re: Its time David Tseng grew a pair...

how about a 2nd chance for Kewpie Hugh?
after all, you took part in the take over of the old board here once long ago*
and you have been forgiven, so maybe you could be the nice guy you use to be and 4give kewpie for possibly being over zealous in her duties
then we could all just get along
please
thx :)


*=didnt think i remembered witnessing that did you? :D
 
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Just because you prefer to sweep difficult, unresolved issues under the carpet, doesn't mean I will forget or will pretend things didn't happen.

What 'unresolved issues' are remaining?

Also, did you think it is ok for Grim to post the picture of the moderator in question and did you have any part in that?
 
Re: Its time David Tseng grew a pair...

This thread is about the treatment of Grim O'Grady and Girl Unafraid everybit as much as Morrissey 23rd but also about David Tsengs website and HIS attitude to its moderation and not the moderators themselves - (Some I find trolls, some I have recently emailed David Teng and complimented - UncleSkinnys in particular is adept, adroit and appropriate).

To merge this thread woul be neither appropriate nor sensible, better for David Tseng to have an OPEN debate with me surely???


Thanks,

Reggie

BINGO! we have a winner. All Grim and GU do is come here and complain when they feel people are picking on them...poor widdle feewings get hurt, then they go apeshit.

They are a funny pair aren't they?
 
Re: Its time David Tseng grew a pair...

how about a 2nd chance for Kewpie Hugh?
after all, you took part in the take over of the old board here once long ago*
and you have been forgiven, so maybe you could be the nice guy you use to be and 4give kewpie for possibly being over zealous in her duties
then we could all just get along
please
thx :)


*=didnt think i remembered witnessing that did you? :D

* Unless you are taking about at Celtic park, I need reminding.

I regularly forgive her. I even honestly feel sorry for her.

What 'unresolved issues' are remaining?

Also, did you think it is ok for Grim to post the picture of the moderator in question and did you have any part in that?

Yet again, another demonstration. I don't suspect every forum member is getting quizzed the same Sherlock? Wouldn't your home be more welcoming if you treated all your visitors the same?

Why do Kewpie and yourself still insist on treating Grim and I as one entity? Still, to try and answer your question, I would need more info. Was it a photo taken in public or was it one of the ones going the rounds that her friends leaked out? I know that there are not very many legal restrictions on what can be photographed when in public view. Especially if it has any public interest. I can only imagine how shocking it could have been. It was removed before I saw it. That has never happened with any photo posted of myself. I'd could guess that Grim was mischief making. Tell me, was he unfairly treated and backed into a corner? From what I read, it seems he was. That usually does result in fight or flight behaviour. I've yet to speak to him about Moz so-low. It seems he timed his ban to start when his holidays began and we don't phone each other to update each other on every post here. In fact it's probably best you direct your issue with Grim to Grim himself and stop wasting my time with things that don't concern or interest me.

It's good to know you have the will to look into matters now. I don't want to sound like a divorce lawyer here but you will find examples of unreasonable behaviour in the 'FAO Kewpie', 'site suggestions?', 'Disgraceful poll on main page' and 'Simple question' threads. The result of which seems to be irreconcilable differences between Kewpie and yourself, and myself? I'd be willing to listen if either of you can think of an amicable solution that suits all parties. My view is the ball was burst in January and it has gotten rather mouldy since then, and been knifed a few times since too. I seriously expect those not in Kewpie's gang to continue to receive second class and prejudicial treatment, and for you to be too busy to properly deal with it, if you wanted to.
 
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we don't phone each other to update each other on every post here.

i can't imagine why not. there seems to be f*** all else in your life worth talking/thinking about.
 
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BINGO! we have a winner. All Grim and GU do is come here and complain when they feel people are picking on them...poor widdle feewings get hurt, then they go apeshit.

They are a funny pair aren't they?

Proper I just don't get why certain people can't say "thanks David" for putting time and money into this site.
 
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* Unless you are taking about at Celtic park, I need reminding.

I regularly forgive her. I even honestly feel sorry for her.



Yet again, another demonstration. I don't suspect every forum member is getting quizzed the same Sherlock? Wouldn't your home be more welcoming if you treated all your visitors the same?

Why do Kewpie and yourself still insist on treating Grim and I as one entity? Still, to try and answer your question, I would need more info. Was it a photo taken in public or was it one of the ones going the rounds that her friends leaked out? I know that there are not very many legal restrictions on what can be photographed when in public view. Especially if it has any public interest. I can only imagine how shocking it could have been. It was removed before I saw it. That has never happened with any photo posted of myself. I'd could guess that Grim was mischief making. Tell me, was he unfairly treated and backed into a corner? From what I read, it seems he was. That usually does result in fight or flight behaviour. I've yet to speak to him about Moz so-low. It seems he timed his ban to start when his holidays began and we don't phone each other to update each other on every post here. In fact it's probably best you direct your issue with Grim to Grim himself and stop wasting my time with things that don't concern or interest me.

It's good to know you have the will to look into matters now. I don't want to sound like a divorce lawyer here but you will find examples of unreasonable behaviour in the 'FAO Kewpie', 'site suggestions?', 'Disgraceful poll on main page' and 'Simple question' threads. The result of which seems to be irreconcilable differences between Kewpie and yourself, and myself? I'd be willing to listen if either of you can think of an amicable solution that suits all parties. My view is the ball was burst in January and it has gotten rather mouldy since then, and been knifed a few times since too. I seriously expect those not in Kewpie's gang to continue to receive second class and prejudicial treatment, and for you to be too busy to properly deal with it, if you wanted to.
:clap::clap::clap: VERY well said.
 
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I don't want to sound like a divorce lawyer here but you will find examples of unreasonable behaviour in the 'FAO Kewpie', 'site suggestions?', 'Disgraceful poll on main page' and 'Simple question' threads. The result of which seems to be irreconcilable differences between Kewpie and yourself, and myself?

I must not be a good 'sherlock' -- I took a couple minutes to search for the 'Disgraceful poll on main page' and do not see any posts or references to Kewpie. What are you referring to in naming this thread as an example of unreasonable behavior?
 
Re: Its time David Tseng grew a pair...

Hugh,

From what I can tell you basically want Kewpie to stop being a moderator and you want David to completely change the way that he responds to people.

I am not going to tell you that your opinions are not valid because they are simply opinions and therefore cannot be wrong.

So what I am wondering, are you hoping that your posts will actually bring the changes you want seen come to pass or are you venting or perhaps there is some other motivating factor behind all this?

When I see arguments like this I think about the time a Jehova's Witness came to my door and wanted to talk to me about God. I told him that I was an atheist and I really was not interested in what he had to say. He tried to insist that I should listen to him. I asked him, "If I were to spend the next 30 minutes trying to convince you there is no God, do you think I could change your mind?" He said no. I asked him why then he thought he could change my mind about something that I feel deep in my heart to be true. He had no real answer.

This thread has become a stalemate. Neither side is going to shift its position. Do you have a constructive suggestion on how we can move forward from here?
 
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I know you asked Hugh, but I'll give my answers anyway.

From what I can tell you basically want Kewpie to stop being a moderator

Absolutely.

and you want David to completely change the way that he responds to people.

I'd put this on the nice-to-have list. He's always been nice to me, and I understand that he's frustrated with Hugh and others, but still, it would be nice to have the site owner model the kind of behavior that he'd like to see from his users.

This thread has become a stalemate. Neither side is going to shift its position. Do you have a constructive suggestion on how we can move forward from here?

As Theo's sig says, f*** it, dude; let's go bowling.
 
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When I see arguments like this I think about the time a Jehova's Witness came to my door and wanted to talk to me about God. I told him that I was an atheist and I really was not interested in what he had to say. He tried to insist that I should listen to him. I asked him, "If I were to spend the next 30 minutes trying to convince you there is no God, do you think I could change your mind?" He said no. I asked him why then he thought he could change my mind about something that I feel deep in my heart to be true. He had no real answer.

I'm going to use this next time I'm in a similar situation.

Peter
 
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Re: The worst speller or words...

I daren't talk football, as a Glasgow Rangers man it's inviting trouble.

Yes I know my spelling is disgusting Jukebox Jury - please see my third post at the bottom, reasons for editing! I know my spelling sux! I repeat that I'll will no longer comment on anything Morrissey says, does, thinks etc!

Keeping schtum!!!

Reggie

are you scottish ?
 
Re: Its time David Tseng grew a pair...

When I see arguments like this I think about the time a Jehova's Witness came to my door and wanted to talk to me about God. I told him that I was an atheist and I really was not interested in what he had to say. He tried to insist that I should listen to him. I asked him, "If I were to spend the next 30 minutes trying to convince you there is no God, do you think I could change your mind?" He said no. I asked him why then he thought he could change my mind about something that I feel deep in my heart to be true. He had no real answer.

As a still-convulsing byproduct of Catholic school, I thank you!
 
Re: Its time David Tseng grew a pair...

Can I pipe up very briefly amongst The Gathering of the Worthy Adversaries?!

One thing occurs to me that could be considered. This site is one of the best fansites anywhere in scope, organisation, timeliness, accessability. Yes, it is hosted by the very capable DavidT who deserves massive respect for that, for keeping a high public profile for news relating to Morrissey and for clearing a space for people who share this interest to keep informed and in contact with eachother. None of us would be visiting only for Morrissey though, so in a since for most of us he is the main man, and it sorta feels like it should be his home too . I wonder if the place didn't provide such a ready opportunity for trolls to belittle everything he does, would this be the model that would calm everyone down? He is the uniting force and some more control over this, especially on the front page, of which I often feel almost ashamed, just for my participation at all, and which is so high on the search engine optimisation (if that's the term), might result in a surprising quality lift.

Anyway here he comes on the Janice Long show for half-hour, then again about 10 past 1. Let tomorrow look after itself...
 
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