Where does Morrissey go from here?

[Jones]

Sanctuary look to be closing down. They've sacked all their sales staff.

http://www.velvetrope.com/ubbthreads...ge=0&fpart=all

I wonder what Morrissey will do now. Can't see him signing to one of the majors and is there a current indie that is big enough for an artist of his stature? Sanctuary seemed to be a bit of a one off.

[miss_bunbury]

I looked at the sanctuary website yesterday to see they are down to only 11 artists from what must have been a good couple of hundered over a year ago.

I see what you're saying about there not really being another indie that looks like they could take him on, Apart from maybe Rough Trade!
Something tells me that's not going to happen.

[Maurice E]

Is it down to the lake, I fear?

[Cemetry Gates]

great thread topic!

Has he tried Silkroute Records or Wire Records? Obviously Factory and Rough Trade are out. lol

I thought about this too, considering if this is really his last tour, what is he going to do w/ his life? He'll be happy w/ it though, I'm sure of it.

Good luck Moz and much success in your future endeavors!

[Jones]

I just hope a bit of success has made him more openminded about who he will work with. We don't want him digging in his heels and refusing every offer just because he doesn't like Sam in Accounts!

[the more you explore me!]

I just hope a bit of success has made him more openminded about who he will work with. We don't want him digging in his heels and refusing every offer just because he doesn't like Sam in Accounts!

but have you met sam in accounts, he is such a rude, ignorant bastard.....he has put me so many £1 million pound deals!

[Worm]

He's in a tough spot, if those reports are true. However, I doubt we'll see a scenario like 1998-2003. "Maladjusted" and "Southpaw Grammar", rightly or wrongly, were seen as mediocre records, whereas his last two "comeback" records were well-received and 'Quarry' sold very well. There wasn't a lot of good will toward Morrissey the way there is now. I think he'll find it easy to secure a decent short-term deal. In the long run, who knows?

This will never happen of course, but I would be absolutely fascinated if Morrissey was signed by the new Starbucks record label. It would be unspeakably awful in most ways, yes, but it also would be an intriguing and strange match that would align him with a slightly different kind of business model. Something different than the "chart hit" route he still seems to favor despite the calendar reading 2007 and not 1967.

[Bluebirds]

The Happy Mondays comeback LP is coming out on Sanctuary (I think) so who knows?

A Vegas style residency but in Gothenburg perhaps?

[Jones]

The Happy Mondays comeback LP is coming out on Sanctuary (I think) so who knows?

A Vegas style residency but in Gothenburg perhaps?

Sounds like there are no more records coming out on Sanctuary. I hope the Happy Mondays and others had decent contracts that gave them the rights to take their recordings elsewhere.

[Jones]

He's in a tough spot, if those reports are true. However, I doubt we'll see a scenario like 1998-2003. "Maladjusted" and "Southpaw Grammar", rightly or wrongly, were seen as mediocre records, whereas his last two "comeback" records were well-received and 'Quarry' sold very well. There wasn't a lot of good will toward Morrissey the way there is now. I think he'll find it easy to secure a decent short-term deal. In the long run, who knows?

This will never happen of course, but I would be absolutely fascinated if Morrissey was signed by the new Starbucks record label. It would be unspeakably awful in most ways, yes, but it also would be an intriguing and strange match that would align him with a slightly different kind of business model. Something different than the "chart hit" route he still seems to favor despite the calendar reading 2007 and not 1967.

My worry is not that he won't find a deal, but that he'll hold out for a perfect non-existent deal which was the problem in 1998-2003 really. He could have found a deal then if he'd really wanted to.

[the more you explore me!]

Something different than the "chart hit" route he still seems to favor despite the calendar reading 2007 and not 1967.

yeah another poptastic hit from the hip shaking MORRISSEY...let it rocK!

The Happy Mondays comeback LP is coming out on Sanctuary (I think) so who knows?

again!!!! should of left it at "bummed"

A Vegas style residency but in Gothenburg perhaps?

quite like the sound of that!

[Worm]

My worry is not that he won't find a deal, but that he'll hold out for a perfect non-existent deal which was the problem in 1998-2003 really. He could have found a deal then if he'd really wanted to.

You're right. I don't see that happening, though. Even Morrissey has to know this is his last, best chance at anything resembling mainstream success. He's almost fifty and I don't think he'll fancy the idea of another barren career patch. I don't think he'll make any major compromises to secure his deal, but he may have to shake things up a little. New collaborators, new producers, maybe some unusual tours...might be very, very interesting.

Going off the deep end, it would really be cool if he would do some writing, either for a paper or maybe a play, movie, or novel. Bit of Nick Cave, you know? Maybe an album to complement whatever he writes, etc. Mind you, I wouldn't want it to look like other attempts by other legends to branch out into other media-- no rock operas a la Paul McCartney, thanks, and Bono's "Million Dollar Hotel" was for the birds-- but if anyone can do it right, Morrissey can.

[CeciDeMorrissey]

Where did I read it? I must've been here: That he could be signing Warner for the end of this year...

But what happened to Attack? Didn't he own it? Or was it the publishing totally dependant on Sanctuary? I never really understood that.

I like Worm's idea... Opening to other creative fields and doing some other kind of touring... Maybe something with a deeper animal rights activism envolvement. Who knows... I'd just LOVE to see him in a movie, but he's turned down a few offers because, remember?, in one of his las letters last year he said he couldn't even perform in the role of a dead.

But I'd die to see him in a movie, even as himself... I'm tired of seeing David Bowie in 1 out of 3 openings.

[Chartres]

The Happy Mondays comeback LP is coming out on Sanctuary (I think) so who knows?

A Vegas style residency but in Gothenburg perhaps?

Well, the Way Out West festival (in Gothenburg) is to promote just Luger's bands - as far as I know. Probably mistaken.

But Luger is a indie label and quite large aswell.

Conspracies ...

[Worm]

But I'd die to see him in a movie, even as himself... I'm tired of seeing David Bowie in 1 out of 3 openings.

This made me laugh. I can't stand Bowie in movies, even though I grudgingly admit he's not that bad as an actor.

Here's an idea. It would pay some bills and keep Morrissey in the public eye. Why not give Morrissey his own TV show? One hour, once a week. Morrissey could have complete control. It would not be a "rant and rave" opinion hour like Henry Rollins' show; Morrissey would simply arrange a lot of interesting material, almost like an extension of his role as Meltdown curator. He would invite singers, filmmakers, writers, actors, artists, athletes and others to appear on the show, and he would interview them in a basic, intimate setting. Musical acts would play 1 or 2 songs during the hour. (Morrissey himself would not perform except on rare occasions, like duets or something, and his music would not be used on the show.) He could have some recorded segments, produced by him or purchased from independent filmmakers, touching on various subjects of interest (he already has dozens of comedians and actors who love him who would no doubt jump at the chance to contribute stuff). The tone would be intelligent but not stuffy, literate but populist. No quick-cutting, twitching camera bullshit, no screaming sidekicks or loud house bands, no showbiz gimmicks, just a barebones studio set and a few cameras pointed at him. If handled correctly...well, it would never be a hit show but it could survive.

[CeciDeMorrissey]

Hahaha Worm, it's just that I've seen Bowie in movies a little too much lately, it's been a sort of boost of his film career, starring as Nicola Tesla in The Prestige and lending his voice for the bad guy in Luc Besson's Arthur and The Minimoys... And as I see him or read about this I long for seeing Morrissey on screen... Do you imagine what would it be to see him performing on a cinema screen?? I'd die right there in my seat!!!

About the TV show... I think is a great idea, but I guess Morrissey would feel quite like a fish outside the water... And he's shy and reserved enough not to feel comfortable acting like the host of a TV show, trying to keep people interested besides his own audience and coping with his moody temper... I think he finally would end up arguing and fighting with the producers or the director for anything when least expected... I would love to, but I don't see him in something like that.

[Kumo]

He's in a tough spot, if those reports are true. However, I doubt we'll see a scenario like 1998-2003. "Maladjusted" and "Southpaw Grammar", rightly or wrongly, were seen as mediocre records, whereas his last two "comeback" records were well-received and 'Quarry' sold very well. There wasn't a lot of good will toward Morrissey the way there is now. I think he'll find it easy to secure a decent short-term deal. In the long run, who knows?

This will never happen of course, but I would be absolutely fascinated if Morrissey was signed by the new Starbucks record label. It would be unspeakably awful in most ways, yes, but it also would be an intriguing and strange match that would align him with a slightly different kind of business model. Something different than the "chart hit" route he still seems to favor despite the calendar reading 2007 and not 1967.

I remember during the days Moz didn't have a deal. I tried to urge Greg Werkman to give Moz a home for his music. Greg, former manager for Jello Biafra and was starting up a new label (Ipecac), told me that Morrissey has a notorious reputation throughout the industry as being extremely difficult, intentionally obtuse, and frustrates everyone.

It's too bad too, I tought if Moz was on Ipecac it would be another good chance for me to meet him... I never bothered trying to ask Jello to put Moz on AT wouldn't fit with his public image, but I think somewhere in there he respects Moz privately.

Kumo

[Kumo]

This made me laugh. I can't stand Bowie in movies, even though I grudgingly admit he's not that bad as an actor.

Here's an idea. It would pay some bills and keep Morrissey in the public eye. Why not give Morrissey his own TV show? One hour, once a week. Morrissey could have complete control. It would not be a "rant and rave" opinion hour like Henry Rollins' show; Morrissey would simply arrange a lot of interesting material, almost like an extension of his role as Meltdown curator. He would invite singers, filmmakers, writers, actors, artists, athletes and others to appear on the show, and he would interview them in a basic, intimate setting. Musical acts would play 1 or 2 songs during the hour. (Morrissey himself would not perform except on rare occasions, like duets or something, and his music would not be used on the show.) He could have some recorded segments, produced by him or purchased from independent filmmakers, touching on various subjects of interest (he already has dozens of comedians and actors who love him who would no doubt jump at the chance to contribute stuff). The tone would be intelligent but not stuffy, literate but populist. No quick-cutting, twitching camera bullshit, no screaming sidekicks or loud house bands, no showbiz gimmicks, just a barebones studio set and a few cameras pointed at him. If handled correctly...well, it would never be a hit show but it could survive.

It sounds nice, but Morrissey would have on the most obscure and remotely interesting people on the show. He seems to have no interest in the contemporary entertainment world. So it would get crappy ratings and be gon e in a few weeks.

Kumo

[Worm]

Do you imagine what would it be to see him performing on a cinema screen?? I'd die right there in my seat!!!

How about a remake of "Indecent Proposal" where passionate gay lovers (Jonathan Rhys-Meyers and Jude Law) meet a suave older man (you know who), a casino owner in 1970s Las Vegas who runs a racy glam-rock cabaret while exploiting his powerful, secret Mob ties to rub out his rivals. In an Oscar winning turn, Morrissey would play the man as a cross between Malcolm McLaren and Marcel Proust. The couple catches his eye one day by the pool...that night after a show Morrissey wines and dines them before putting a lot of cash and an intriguing offer on the table...

[Bluebirds]

What would his intriguing proposition be? Do you know where I can get a record deal???

As for Kumo's endeavours to get Moz signed up.... words fail me, they really do!!! I'm sure in your position as chief economist at Hello magazine you could set up a record label for him. He may even remember you