Why does this website make me so angry?

[Rakketak]

Although I can't keep myself from checking this site every day, I must say that it also makes me very angry. There's something so wrong about this whole thing. You make it seem like The Smiths where only a prelude to a 'brilliant' solo career, which is, of course, not true.
THE SMITHS! You have no idea how happy it made me to hear this so called 'depressing' tones! In the spring of 1984, when for the first time in my life I managed to trust people and found the love of my life. Yes, listening to The Smiths - which isn't the same as listening to just Morrissey, because is was the mixture, the chemistry with the hugely talented Johnny Marr, without whom we would never have heard of Steven at all - is a strange thing: to be happy and melangolic at the same time. Music that was more 'me' I had never heard and never heard again. And the sleeves, the brilliant interviews!
How I tried to keep that feeling, after the group disbanded. Yes, I followed him, and no, it was never the same again, and believe me, I tried. For twelve @#!!!ing years I wanted to believe in a 'marriage' that just didn't work anymore. I didn't dare to admit that the spark had gone. There's not a single song that can stand in the shadow of something like 'Reel' or 'William', the sleeves seemed to be made by an lesser talented epigonist, only the interviews stayed brilliant as ever, but I couldn't face the facts. I found comfort in collecting one weak single after another, in playing them over and over again 'till they stuck (which they couldn't by themselves).
And then, finally, came the concert in Tilburg, october 1999. I sang along, and yes, I loved him. But is was the last goodbye. After that it just wasn't the same anymore. Was he just an image I created, because I so desperately needed someone who was the same as me, I asked myself, or did he really change? He looked like a cardboard image, unreal in the wrong way.
I sold all my Moz-stuff, made a brilliant compilation of the best of the first two years and decided to say goodbye. Will it ever be the same again? I don't really care. But I can't really believe that Morrissey is happy with this mediocer band and all the tastelessness. Why on earth does he need a record deal if he's got nothing to say anymore? And why, why, why do you keep worshipping this man?

 

[Used to be a]

> Although I can't keep myself from checking this site every day,
> I must say that it also makes me very angry.

There's a lot about this site that makes some of us very angry. Which category do you fit into?

>And why, why, why do you keep worshipping this man?

OOps! You just slipped up! You *don't* check this site at all! Nobody here seems to worship the man you're talking about, or ever want to talk about him. We hardly mention his name (Morrissey). Most of the posters detest him.

Complain elsewhere.

 

[Mimi]

> Although I can't keep myself from checking this site every day,
> I must say that it also makes me very angry. There's something
> so wrong about this whole thing. You make it seem like The
> Smiths where only a prelude to a 'brilliant' solo career, which
> is, of course, not true.
> THE SMITHS! You have no idea how happy it made me to hear this
> so called 'depressing' tones! In the spring of 1984, when for
> the first time in my life I managed to trust people and found
> the love of my life. Yes, listening to The Smiths - which isn't
> the same as listening to just Morrissey, because is was the
> mixture, the chemistry with the hugely talented Johnny Marr,
> without whom we would never have heard of Steven at all - is a
> strange thing: to be happy and melangolic at the same time.
> Music that was more 'me' I had never heard and never heard
> again. And the sleeves, the brilliant interviews!
> How I tried to keep that feeling, after the group disbanded.
> Yes, I followed him, and no, it was never the same again, and
> believe me, I tried. For twelve @#!!! ing years I wanted to
> believe in a 'marriage' that just didn't work anymore. I didn't
> dare to admit that the spark had gone. There's not a single song
> that can stand in the shadow of something like 'Reel' or
> 'William', the sleeves seemed to be made by an lesser talented
> epigonist, only the interviews stayed brilliant as ever, but I
> couldn't face the facts. I found comfort in collecting one weak
> single after another, in playing them over and over again 'till
> they stuck (which they couldn't by themselves).
> And then, finally, came the concert in Tilburg, october 1999. I
> sang along, and yes, I loved him. But is was the last goodbye.
> After that it just wasn't the same anymore. Was he just an image
> I created, because I so desperately needed someone who was the
> same as me, I asked myself, or did he really change? He looked
> like a cardboard image, unreal in the wrong way.
> I sold all my Moz-stuff, made a brilliant compilation of the
> best of the first two years and decided to say goodbye. Will it
> ever be the same again? I don't really care. But I can't really
> believe that Morrissey is happy with this mediocer band and all
> the tastelessness. Why on earth does he need a record deal if
> he's got nothing to say anymore? And why, why, why do you keep
> worshipping this man?

....errrr..... maybe..... because we don't agree with you???? Does the word OPINION mean anything to you?

 

[guiltbyimplication]

WHAT?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Leave us alone I was only singing leave us alone you have just proved, erm, just leave us alone.


Guilt By Implication

 

[L'Estrange]

> Although I can't keep myself from checking this site every day,
> I must say that it also makes me very angry. There's something
> so wrong about this whole thing. You make it seem like The
> Smiths where only a prelude to a 'brilliant' solo career, which
> is, of course, not true.
> THE SMITHS! You have no idea how happy it made me to hear this
> so called 'depressing' tones! In the spring of 1984, when for
> the first time in my life I managed to trust people and found
> the love of my life. Yes, listening to The Smiths - which isn't
> the same as listening to just Morrissey, because is was the
> mixture, the chemistry with the hugely talented Johnny Marr,
> without whom we would never have heard of Steven at all - is a
> strange thing: to be happy and melangolic at the same time.
> Music that was more 'me' I had never heard and never heard
> again. And the sleeves, the brilliant interviews!
> How I tried to keep that feeling, after the group disbanded.
> Yes, I followed him, and no, it was never the same again, and
> believe me, I tried. For twelve @#!!! ing years I wanted to
> believe in a 'marriage' that just didn't work anymore. I didn't
> dare to admit that the spark had gone. There's not a single song
> that can stand in the shadow of something like 'Reel' or
> 'William', the sleeves seemed to be made by an lesser talented
> epigonist, only the interviews stayed brilliant as ever, but I
> couldn't face the facts. I found comfort in collectin

If You truly believe in every thing you've said then why do you waste your time and check this site daily?

 

[KarenKoz]

He's grown, we all should too

Morrissey's music has evolved over the years. We can't blame him for not being "the smiths" anymore. I too LOVED the smiths, I still listen to their albums everyday; but they broke up, and we can't expect Morrissey to attempt to match it or copy it. How would you feel if you were expected to act and write as you did 20 years ago, at the start of your music career.

Is it Morrissey's music that makes you sick about this website, or the arguing of his 'fans?'

 

[Rakketak]

Re: He's grown, we all should too

> Morrissey's music has evolved over the years. We can't blame him
> for not being "the smiths" anymore. I too LOVED the
> smiths, I still listen to their albums everyday; but they broke
> up, and we can't expect Morrissey to attempt to match it or copy
> it. How would you feel if you were expected to act and write as
> you did 20 years ago, at the start of your music career.

> Is it Morrissey's music that makes you sick about this website,
> or the arguing of his 'fans?'

Mmmm... maybe I'm angry at myself...

 

[UnrulyGirl]

> And then, finally, came the concert in Tilburg, october 1999. I
> sang along, and yes, I loved him. But is was the last goodbye.
> After that it just wasn't the same anymore. Was he just an image
> I created, because I so desperately needed someone who was the
> same as me, I asked myself, or did he really change? He looked
> like a cardboard image, unreal in the wrong way.
> I sold all my Moz-stuff, made a brilliant compilation of the
> best of the first two years and decided to say goodbye. Will it
> ever be the same again? I don't really care. But I can't really
> believe that Morrissey is happy with this mediocer band and all
> the tastelessness. Why on earth does he need a record deal if
> he's got nothing to say anymore? And why, why, why do you keep
> worshipping this man?

I must say I am far from worshipping the guy. Appreciating him and what his music has done for me is more like it. See I'm almost 18 and have only been into him for around 4 years now, And so at the same time while you were seeing him in 99 for who knows how many times and declaring your 'last goodbye's' ...

This was my first glimpse of someone who I viewed as a genious. Or as someone who's words , spoke to me in ways nothing or noone else could. Not only The Smiths but YES his solo work, Gave me a sense of belonging and understanding I had never felt before from anyone. I felt lucky to even discover a band such as The smiths and as I soon found out an artist such as Morrissey.

TO me he looked nothing but stunning and full of life.. I wished the show would never end, and when it did I could not wait until I got the chance to see him again. I felt his strong presense and life reaching out to all of us and although I wish I had been able to Witness a Smiths concert or even an early solo concert, I was not at all let down by what I did have the chance to see. HE was passionate and so were his fans.. He seemsed as happy to be singing for us aswe were to Be there.

Maybe you have gotten past the point in your life in which you Felt there was someone else who understood you so well.. Maybe morrissey's life has changed in way's you can no longer relate and this is why you have chosen to give up your faith in him. If so then fine that's alright but don't condemn everyone else.
I admit that His band isn't the greatest right now.. And His last album isn't the most fantastic thing he has put out but after I saw him live (3 times, the last being in march) I still have much faith in the guy and I know if he doesn't put out any new songs I will be content in What He has CHOSEN to give us and Happy I did get the chance to experience his live concerts, Take in his wonderful voice and songs for hours, and with some odd stroke of luck even meet the man. I would wish him the best of luck with his life. And if he does continue .. I know i'll be here waiting to hear what he has come up with..

 

[The GlamGod]

Re: He's grown, we all should too

Karen,

> Is it Morrissey's music that makes you sick about this website,
> or the arguing of his 'fans?'

No comment, however I think you're going to be open season for the spineless bastards on here.

You are such a brave girl for asking this, I love you more than life.

The GlamGod

 

[The GlamGod]

> I must say I am far from worshipping the guy. Appreciating him
> and what his music has done for me is more like it. See I'm
> almost 18 and have only been into him for around 4 years now,
> And so at the same time while you were seeing him in 99 for who
> knows how many times and declaring your 'last goodbye's' ...

> This was my first glimpse of someone who I viewed as a genious.
> Or as someone who's words , spoke to me in ways nothing or noone
> else could. Not only The Smiths but YES his solo work, Gave me a
> sense of belonging and understanding I had never felt before
> from anyone. I felt lucky to even discover a band such as The
> smiths and as I soon found out an artist such as Morrissey.

> TO me he looked nothing but stunning and full of life.. I wished
> the show would never end, and when it did I could not wait until
> I got the chance to see him again. I felt his strong presense
> and life reaching out to all of us and although I wish I had
> been able to Witness a Smiths concert or even an early solo
> concert, I was not at all let down by what I did have the chance
> to see. HE was passionate and so were his fans.. He seemsed as
> happy to be singing for us aswe were to Be there.

> Maybe you have gotten past the point in your life in which you
> Felt there was someone else who understood you so well.. Maybe
> morrissey's life has changed in way's you can no longer relate
> and this is why you have chosen to give up your faith in him. If
> so then fine that's alright but don't condemn everyone else.
> I admit that His band isn't the greatest right now.. And His
> last album isn't the most fantastic thing he has put out but
> after I saw him live (3 times, the last being in march) I still
> have much faith in the guy and I know if he doesn't put out any
> new songs I will be content in What He has CHOSEN to give us and
> Happy I did get the chance to experience his live concerts, Take
> in his wonderful voice and songs for hours, and with some odd
> stroke of luck even meet the man. I would wish him the best of
> luck with his life. And if he does continue .. I know i'll be
> here waiting to hear what he has come up with..

Um, yeah, I guess! ;-)

And if you've got the stamina to stay on this board you'll hear more.

The GlamGod

 

[Mimi]

Re: He's grown, we all should too

> Karen,

> No comment, however I think you're going to be open season for
> the spineless bastards on here.

> You are such a brave girl for asking this, I love you more than
> life.

> The GlamGod

...errr... excuse me for such an off-topic question but where is the bravery in saying ANYTHING on a website???? I mean who's gonna come creeping through wires and walls to bite you?? Is it that you like to think of yourself as very brave too??

 

[suzanne]

From a person who knows....

> ...errr... excuse me for such an off-topic question but where is
> the bravery in saying ANYTHING on a website???? I mean who's
> gonna come creeping through wires and walls to bite you?? Is it
> that you like to think of yourself as very brave too??

pissing someone off via internet can be incredibly dangerous. especially when they have "other means" of dealing with you besides writing a nasty little post about you.

I don't agree with GlamGod's version of pissing people off because that's him feeling sorry for himself.

 

[The GlamGod]

Re: He's grown, we all should too

> ...errr... excuse me for such an off-topic question but where is
> the bravery in saying ANYTHING on a website???? I mean who's
> gonna come creeping through wires and walls to bite you?? Is it
> that you like to think of yourself as very brave too??

I'm talking about you, not me. ;-)

Beware the backstabbers. And I've come to the conclusion that Greasetea and Cinderella are in fact Morrissey's old schoolteachers Paul Sweeney and Jet Morgan.

The GlamGod

 

[Punch-drunkGB]

3 cheers for mimi

wELL said that girl

3 cheers for mimi> ...errr... excuse me for such an off-topic question but where is
> the bravery in saying ANYTHING on a website???? I mean who's
> gonna come creeping through wires and walls to bite you?? Is it
> that you like to think of yourself as very brave too??

 

[greasetea]

Re: Your conclusions are unfounded!

And I suspect that you not only live at home with your mom, you consider it "vogue" to walk around in tee-shirts that announce "Polo Sport XL" or "Tommy Hilfiger". Oh just shut up and leave, even those that dislike me dislike you even more for posting e-mail you stupid louse.

By the way, I do hope you get gang raped by your family. I'll be there eating mouthfuls of pudding and giving thumbs up to your dad as he butt fu.cks you into a bleeding mess.

"I suspect the world is against thine but alas, I GlamGod shall show the true valhalla of the ugliness inside" Please moron...your dribble would make Hallmark laugh and decide to quit the card business.

 

[Mosje]

Re: Your conclusions are unfounded!

> And I suspect that you not only live at home with your mom, you
> consider it "vogue" to walk around in tee-shirts that
> announce "Polo Sport XL" or "Tommy
> Hilfiger". Oh just shut up and leave, even those that
> dislike me dislike you even more for posting e-mail you stupid
> louse.

> By the way, I do hope you get gang raped by your family. I'll be
> there eating mouthfuls of pudding and giving thumbs up to your
> dad as he butt fu.cks you into a bleeding mess.

> "I suspect the world is against thine but alas, I GlamGod
> shall show the true valhalla of the ugliness inside" Please
> moron...your dribble would make Hallmark laugh and decide to
> quit the card business.

Tough day at the office?

 

[The GlamGod]

Re: Your conclusions are unfounded!

Heya~

> "I suspect the world is against thine but alas, I GlamGod
> shall show the true valhalla of the ugliness inside" Please
> moron...your dribble would make Hallmark laugh and decide to
> quit the card business.

Hey, that's given me a great idea! We could stop wasting the earth's resources by pushing Hallmark out of business and creating my own e-card services.

Hahahahhaaaaaa ;-D

The GlamGod

 

[An Klestar]

Why do you blame Morrissey/The Smiths for these feelings? Didn't YOU change as well?

I think the topic has been on and off for quite a time ... while there certainly is a gap between the over-talented Marr and the present songwriters, they're still doing very well! I find the two guitars much better than Marr previously trying to carry the whole show on his single guitar, and Boz & Alain do much better than Johnny & Craig ever did together. Moreover, I find Morrissey to be lyrically more mature and interesting - can't say that about William nor about Reel, and certainly not about Panic or Death of a Disco Dancer.

I'm quite optimistic, that is.

Cheers,
AK

> Although I can't keep myself from checking this site every day,
> I must say that it also makes me very angry. There's something
> so wrong about this whole thing. You make it seem like The
> Smiths where only a prelude to a 'brilliant' solo career, which
> is, of course, not true.
> THE SMITHS! You have no idea how happy it made me to hear this
> so called 'depressing' tones! In the spring of 1984, when for
> the first time in my life I managed to trust people and found
> the love of my life. Yes, listening to The Smiths - which isn't
> the same as listening to just Morrissey, because is was the
> mixture, the chemistry with the hugely talented Johnny Marr,
> without whom we would never have heard of Steven at all - is a
> strange thing: to be happy and melangolic at the same time.
> Music that was more 'me' I had never heard and never heard
> again. And the sleeves, the brilliant interviews!
> How I tried to keep that feeling, after the group disbanded.
> Yes, I followed him, and no, it was never the same again, and
> believe me, I tried. For twelve @#!!! ing years I wanted to
> believe in a 'marriage' that just didn't work anymore. I didn't
> dare to admit that the spark had gone. There's not a single song
> that can stand in the shadow of something like 'Reel' or
> 'William', the sleeves seemed to be made by an lesser talented
> epigonist, only the interviews stayed brilliant as ever, but I
> couldn't face the facts. I found comfort in collecting one weak
> single after another, in playing them over and over again 'till
> they stuck (which they couldn't by themselves).
> And then, finally, came the concert in Tilburg, october 1999. I
> sang along, and yes, I loved him. But is was the last goodbye.
> After that it just wasn't the same anymore. Was he just an image
> I created, because I so desperately needed someone who was the
> same as me, I asked myself, or did he really change? He looked
> like a cardboard image, unreal in the wrong way.
> I sold all my Moz-stuff, made a brilliant compilation of the
> best of the first two years and decided to say goodbye. Will it
> ever be the same again? I don't really care. But I can't really
> believe that Morrissey is happy with this mediocer band and all
> the tastelessness. Why on earth does he need a record deal if
> he's got nothing to say anymore? And why, why, why do you keep
> worshipping this man?

 

[Eggyboss]

Couldn't agree more with your tone! Obviously we're all a lil' bit bias towards Morrissey and all fondly mull over The Smiths but I must say Morrissey's Solo work has witnessed his maturing and the songs have beared witness to this. In The Smiths, Morrissey & Marr tried too much to stick to the ideal of 'the perfect 7", 3 minute song' and this restricted them somewhat. Surely someone else out there (as committed as we are to the course) find songs like William and Panic a little non-inventive by Mozz standards and enjoy the likes of Maladjusted and Wide to Receive just a gully-wide more? (though I'm not convinced that Reel... and Death of... are examples of such neglect!)