David Cameron on Morrissey

Uncleskinny

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Just been on Desert Island Discs, and regarding This Charming Man, he had this to say:

"I don't really agree with lead singer Morrissey about anything, for instance he's a passionate vegetarian, and I'm a big meat eater, but when he appeared on Top of The Pops with flowers hanging out of the back of his trousers and an NHS hearing aid, it was an iconic moment for people of my generation."

Band-wagon jumping of the highest order, in my opinion. What an arse.

Peter
 
Just listened to it!

Am wondering if he has ever taken the time to actually listen to any of the songs.. 'Margaret On The Guillotine' for instance?!
 
He should also have a listen to Glamorous Glue me thinks...

We won't vote Conservative

Because we never have

Everyone lies, everyone lies
 
Uncleskinny said:
Band-wagon jumping of the highest order, in my opinion. What an arse.

Peter

Cameron must have been a student between 84-88, hardly unusual that he'd get into the Smiths at that time.
 
Interlude said:
He should also have a listen to Glamorous Glue me thinks...

We won't vote Conservative

Because we never have

Everyone lies, everyone lies


How are you people taking this lyric? I take it as saying we just vote Labour because we always have - out of mindless, automatic tradition and loyalty (you know, the way 90% of African-Americans tend to vote as a block for the Democratic Party in the USA, or the way UncleSkinny despises Cameron simply because he's a Tory and he's "supposed to") - but where is the man I respect? What good is it doing? All the politicans are liars. f*** them all.

I could be wrong, but I take it as either dismissing politicians in general as people to be despised whatever their party label (as in "Irish Blood"), or as a comment on how people don't think for themselves and allow one party to own their vote and take them for granted.
 
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Well Moz has never been particularly fond of the Conservatives, so I always interpreted that lyric as a mere dig at the Tories.
 
Theo said:
How are you people taking this lyric? I take it as saying we just vote Labour because we always have - out of mindless, automatic tradition and loyalty (you know, the way 90% of African-Americans tend to vote as a block for the Democratic Party in the USA) - but where is the man I respect? What good is it doing? All the politicans are liars. f*** them all.

I could be very wrong, but I take it as either dismissing politicians in general as people to be despised whatever their party label, or as saying maybe we should start thinking for ourselves before instead of allowing one party to own us and take us for granted.

I think "Everyone Lies" could be quite specific to the 1992 election when the exit polls said Labour were going to win and it was concluded afterwards that people were voting Tory but were too embarrassed to admit it.
 
Young And Alive said:
Well Moz has never been particularly fond of the Conservatives, so I always interpreted that lyric as a mere dig at the Tories.


No, he's not a fan of the Conservatives, but he's also not a fan of Labour or of politicians in general. He's said many times he hates them all and he judges people by how they live not by their political labels.

He doesn't seem to mind the politics of Brigitte Bardot much (calls her one of France's national treasures) because he likes her as a person.
 
Theo said:
No, he's not a fan of the Conservatives, but he's also not a fan of Labour or of politicians in general. He's said many times he hates them all and he judges people by how they live not by their political labels.

He doesn't seem to mind the politics of Brigitte Bardot much (calls her one of France's national treasures) because he likes her as a person.

Throughout the eighties he voted Labour (he said it in interviews), it's only with Tony Blair he's become disenchanted because Blair is essentially Tory. This is true of many Labour voters.
 
Benton said:
I think "Everyone Lies" could be quite specific to the 1992 election when the exit polls said Labour were going to win and it was concluded afterwards that people were voting Tory but were too embarrassed to admit it.

Exactly. Your Arsenal's release came 4 months after the April 92 election, which turned out to be a surprising victory for the Tories.

In Britain there is a tradition of not wanting to admit to voting Conservative, as it's seen as a selfish vote.

"We won't vote Conservative, because we never have." - everyone lies.


Even at 16 yrs old I could understand this one from Moz.
 
yah, unless you want to see the sorta stuff that happened when thatcher was in power dont vote tory, i voted labour last time but i ampretty sure i will be voting for the scottish socialist party in the next one simply because thier values are spot on and if these sort of parties get a coupla seats they can shake things up to a certain degree
 
Benton said:
I think "Everyone Lies" could be quite specific to the 1992 election when the exit polls said Labour were going to win and it was concluded afterwards that people were voting Tory but were too embarrassed to admit it.

I agree with this. This is how I always interpreted this line. Don't forget that Labour were a lot more, well, 'Labour' in those days so it's likely Morrissey had a greater allegiance to them than he does now (i.e. none at all).

That election was well depressing. Still remember that smug bastard Tory candidate smirking when Basildon was called for them indicating it was going to be their night.
 
Yes back in '92 I couldnt find anyone that voted Tory but they won. A perceptive bit of lyric that.

I will probably vote Liberal next time.
 
Uncleskinny said:
Band-wagon jumping of the highest order, in my opinion. What an arse.

Peter

Exactly what band wagon are you talking about? I can't say I'm aware of any current national hysteria towards Morrissey that he could be trying to take advantage of. Ok, he's released a good album, but that will largely have gone unnoticed by most people.

A little cynical if you ask me.
 
Benton said:
I think "Everyone Lies" could be quite specific to the 1992 election when the exit polls said Labour were going to win and it was concluded afterwards that people were voting Tory but were too embarrassed to admit it.
That's exactly it I think.

Cameron's attempt to cling to Mozz is rather embarassing...all part of his attempt to win an election based on image...which will probably work.

England.
 
Young And Alive said:
Gordon Brown will be Labour leader before the next General Election anyway. So, Brown or Cameron? Brown every time for me.
Brown is probably the better politician, but Cameron will be able to pitch himself in the media as the young one with charisma v. the two old codgers of Brown and Menzes (who I like by the way). Sadly with so many turned off by politics thats what it comes down to these days, presentation, image.

It also depends when Blair goes. If he goes just before the next election the public will probably allow Brown a 'bedding in' or 'give him a chance' sort of thing.

Brown has got to try to distance himself from Blair though, Camerons job will be to try and prove they are one and the same.

I hope I never live under a Tory government but sadly I think we might be heading that way...
 
Remember that monstrous right wing manifesto they put out under Hague?

Who wrote it?

None other than David 'I am a cuddly Tory with a social conscience' Cameron....be afraid.
 
Might not be the official lyrics but

"There are some bad people on the right
They're saving their own skins by
Ruining other people's lives
Bad, bad people on the right"
 
Carnival Kid said:
Might not be the official lyrics but

"There are some bad people on the right
They're saving their own skins by
Ruining other people's lives
Bad, bad people on the right"

He's soo right, as always.

We're sadly heading towards a depressing right wing, populist government in Norway as well. We have a really scary Progress Party, who use racist prejudice, promises of lower taxes and higher governmental spending (the oil money, that in Norway are counted as money we should save for later generations) in order to collect votes. Resent polls suggest that 34-35 percent of the voters support them, and it's depressing me daily. Now that's populism!

So yes, bad, bad people on the right...
 
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