I'd say the end of Ziggy was the end of Bowie.
When do you think Bowie lost it?
I'd say the end of Ziggy was the end of Bowie.
Re: When do you think Bowie lost it?
i thought so too, imbetween then and the elctronic era was pretty crap. But i am a huge fan of little wonder etc.
Re: When do you think Bowie lost it?
> I'd say the end of Ziggy was the end of Bowie.
When exactly was the end of Ziggy? 1973?
I disagree totally of course, you cannot disregard the stuff after 1973 like Diamond Dogs, Station To Station, Low, Heroes, and Lodger, Im not a fan of the instrumentals from Low and Heroes but the vocal tracks are sublime.
Its common knowledge he lost it after Scary Monsters (1980)
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Im gonna have to agree with you there...
but you know i mean no biggie. hes loaded. hes inconic. hes gotta a beautiful ladyfriend. probably they do it alot.
hes on the pulse is a not that vulgur way.
i think he was genuinely curious about electronic music and probably still is.. its not like bowie ever aspired to be an apprentice at a violin makers .
> When exactly was the end of Ziggy? 1973?
> I disagree totally of course, you cannot disregard the stuff after 1973
> like Diamond Dogs, Station To Station, Low, Heroes, and Lodger, Im not a
> fan of the instrumentals from Low and Heroes but the vocal tracks are
> sublime.
> Its common knowledge he lost it after Scary Monsters (1980)
Re: When do you think Bowie lost it?
I hated all that Ziggy crap.
Re: When do you think Bowie lost it?
lemme tell you what is a party starter. black country rock .
> I hated all that Ziggy crap.
One Word...
LABYRINTH
Did i imagine Tin Machine then?
Or were they as bad as i remember?
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i think tin machine were really bad but made with what he considered to be foresight. it was a pioneering spirit. i forgive him. he gets botox only sometimes.
> LABYRINTH
Modern Love as sampled by Puff Daddy and Mase
Re: Modern Love as sampled by Puff Daddy and Mase
I was not impressed with the Modern Love stuff, although I did
go to see Bowie when he toured in Melbourne first in
1977 ,then again when that Modern Love song came out, can't remember
what year it was.
Absolutely loved Bowie since I was a wee girl and he is still someone
I totally admire, but everyone changes and I guess he kind of sold out
to commercialism for practical reasons. Still think he is extremely
cool without a doubt. Always will.
Never.
For me, anyway. But I'm kind of biased- I adore pretty much his entire catalog.
I'll admit that The 80's albums (excepting Scary Monsters) are weak, except for a handful of songs. But how can you say that Bowie ended at Ziggy? What about Station to Station, Lodger, Scary Monsters?
I'll go even further and say that Bowie's post-90's albums have nothing to apologize for (with the possible exception of Black Tie White Noise). I adore Earthling, Hours, and most of Outside. Heathen was a perfectly measured statement on who Bowie was at the time of recording.
Reality scared me, though. If only because it followed Heathen; it sounded too similar, and much too safe. If his next album follows suit, I'll start considering that Bowie's "losing it".
This all just my opinion though, of course.
Never.
For me, anyway. But I'm kind of biased- I adore pretty much his entire catalog.
I'll admit that The 80's albums (excepting Scary Monsters) are weak, except for a handful of songs. But how can you say that Bowie ended at Ziggy? What about Station to Station, Lodger, Scary Monsters?
I'll go even further and say that Bowie's post-90's albums have nothing to apologize for (with the possible exception of Black Tie White Noise). I adore Earthling, Hours, and most of Outside. Heathen was a perfectly measured statement on who Bowie was at the time of recording.
Reality scared me, though. If only because it followed Heathen; it sounded too similar, and much too safe. If his next album follows suit, I'll start considering that Bowie's "losing it".
This all just my opinion though, of course.
Woops, sorry for the double post.
Re: When do you think Bowie lost it?
"let's dance" is the hott shit. a real masher. big ups to d. bows on that song.
> Im gonna have to agree with you there...
> but you know i mean no biggie. hes loaded. hes inconic. hes gotta a
> beautiful ladyfriend. probably they do it alot.
> hes on the pulse is a not that vulgur way.
> i think he was genuinely curious about electronic music and probably still
> is.. its not like bowie ever aspired to be an apprentice at a violin
> makers .
Re: When do you think Bowie lost it?
Bowie is a legend and a pretty cool guy, but glaring missteps include:
-The Glass Spider Tour, so garish Johnny Marr refused the lead guitar slot (replaced by ULP... Peter fucking Frampton.)
-Dancing In The Streets with Jagger.
-Black Tie, White Noise
-Tin Machine
-Lord's Prayer at Live Aid.
That's off the top of my head. There are more for certain.
Re: When do you think Bowie lost it?
> I'd say the end of Ziggy was the end of Bowie.
Sometime in the 80s.
Re: When do you think Bowie lost it?
Personally, I find that "Low" pinnacles my interest in Bowie, followed by the solid "Heroes" and the live lp "Stage". Thereafter his career drops precipitously in relevance. He did redeem himself somewhat in my esteem with the beautiful "Hours"; "Heathen" was a great, satisfying, album, though a little mannered.
Re: When do you think Bowie lost it?
In an extraordinary career spanning nigh on 40 years (mid 60s to present) there's obviously going to be some lows among the multitude of highs, but the fact remains that Bowie remains one of THE greatest figures that rock music has ever produced.
His worst period by far was between 1984-1989. He's even said himself that the mid to late 80's were a "creative abyss" for him. "I just lost interest, hit a cul-de-sac."
However,it's become a cliche (especially among some lazy music journalists) to say Bowie's "rebirth" came with 'Hours' and 'Heathen'. Wrong. Virtually ignored at the time, his 90's output has been sorely underrated. 'Black Tie White Noise', 'Earthling' and especially 'The Buddha Of Surburbia' and the extraordinary 'Outside' are great albums, the last two on a par with his 70's output (had Radiohead released 'Outside' it would've no doubt garnered reviews on the level of 'OK Computer').
Fact is, Bowie's "rebirth" as a musical forth began in the early 90's, only not many people knew it or cared.
I still think it's a pity that both Moz and him haven't settled their differences, as I'm a great fan of both. It would be nice to see them reconciled - they're both brilliant artists and I'm sure underneath they still hold a healthy respect for one another. Let's hope 2006 may bring something more positive on that front...
Re: When do you think Bowie lost it?
When he had his teeth straightened
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