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  1. #1
    mimiko
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    Default Friday Mourning

    How do you interpret this lyric?

    What are "mourning", "This dawn raid" that means it?
    I do not understand well...

    And I'm sorry my English is poor.




    Friday Mourning

  2. #2
    hel
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    > How do you interpret this lyric?

    > What are "mourning", "This dawn raid" that means it?
    > I do not understand well...

    > And I'm sorry my English is poor.

    well the title "friday mourning" is of course a pun on "friday morning".
    "mourning" means "grieving", it means you are sad because of a sad event e.g. somebody dying.

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    mimiko
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    Thank you,

    >>because of a sad event e.g. somebody dying.
    Could it mean "I"(=narrator) killed or raided someone?

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    PerfectlyWretched
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    A "dawn raid" is when an investor buys a substantial number of a company's shares before the market becomes aware of their intentions. The buyer's objective is usually to build a strategic stake in the target company. In this case, the song is about an emotional investment made that won't pay off because he's discovered the person's real intentions - so he's leaving and never coming back. The voices of people with authority in his life come to mind as he mourns the loss of the relationship he thought he had. (People told him he's a loser). So the pun on "morning" (mourning) is revealed in the usage of the turn of the phrase "dawn raid".

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    please
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    > A "dawn raid" is when an investor buys a substantial number of a
    > company's shares before the market becomes aware of their intentions. The
    > buyer's objective is usually to build a strategic stake in the target
    > company. In this case, the song is about an emotional investment made that
    > won't pay off because he's discovered the person's real intentions - so
    > he's leaving and never coming back. The voices of people with authority in
    > his life come to mind as he mourns the loss of the relationship he thought
    > he had. (People told him he's a loser). So the pun on "morning"
    > (mourning) is revealed in the usage of the turn of the phrase "dawn
    > raid".

    hmm a dawn raid is actually a term used by the police. Catching criminals by surprise by breaking down their fronts doors early in the morning. Of course a dwn raid does not have to be carried out by the police.

  6. #6
    mouthful of pie
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    > hmm a dawn raid is actually a term used by the police. Catching criminals
    > by surprise by breaking down their fronts doors early in the morning. Of
    > course a dwn raid does not have to be carried out by the police.

    When an investor buys a substantial number of a company’s shares before the market becomes aware of their intentions. The buyer’s objective is usually to build a strategic stake in the target company.
    www.nwg.co.uk/nwgl/services/glossary/

    I have heard of a pre-dawn raid to describe a police action, and when I looked up dawn raid on google this story came up.
    Gunmen mount dawn raid on Iraq ministry
    Mon Sep 5, 2005 07:55 AM ET
    http://go.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=9561370

    However, it means to catch a person when they are unsuspecting or unaware.

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    mimiko
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    Default Thank you

    I wish to express my gratitude for your wise opinions. The opinion of referring the great depression is very interesting. Moreover, the explanation of the police term is also.
    I'm going to write the interpretation of his lyrics in Japanese on website (which is just fansite by me, and not appeared yet). Then, May I write referring to your opinions?

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    PerfectlyWretched
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    Valid points about the police action...BUT the next modifying phrase following is "soon put paid". The imagery intends an investment has been made with alterior motives. THEN...Morrissey does a clever bit later, by a turn of the phrase "dawn raid" again, by creating a scenario where he's "taken down" in a police action by the discovery without using the term a second time (dawn raid).

    By the way...this seems lyric seems to be either a lift of the Autopilot Off song "Friday Mourning" or a "response" song to it. The similarity in tone and some phrases and themes are too close at points to ignore:

    Autopilot Off's "Friday Mourning"

    A desperate breath inhaled, then it leaves you.
    Hollowed out, and you struggle to feel something.
    Abandoned eyes that drowned in the disbelief and
    doubt, when you woke up Friday morning.

    It still seems so surreal.
    These scars should slowly heal.
    I remember when you kneeled, you didn't say goodbye.
    You knew she wasn't gone.
    You whispered,
    "Until we meet again, you'll be
    watching me, I know.

    Please save a place for me and when I'm finally
    called back home, I'll see you smiling there."

    The angels in your bedroom softly sing her name.
    It's getting easier to sleep now.
    So you feel some comfort, but still it's not the same.
    But it's better than the twisted silence.
    You woke up Friday morning.

  9. #9
    please
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    > When an investor buys a substantial number of a company’s shares before
    > the market becomes aware of their intentions. The buyer’s objective is
    > usually to build a strategic stake in the target company.
    > www.nwg.co.uk/nwgl/services/glossary/ I have heard of a pre-dawn raid to
    > describe a police action, and when I looked up dawn raid on google this
    > story came up.
    > Gunmen mount dawn raid on Iraq ministry
    > Mon Sep 5, 2005 07:55 AM ET
    > http://go.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=9561370
    > However, it means to catch a person when they are unsuspecting or unaware.

    Exactly, my explanation ties in with the rest of the song much more nicely

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    please
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    > Valid points about the police action...BUT the next modifying phrase
    > following is "soon put paid". The imagery intends an investment
    > has been made with alterior motives. THEN...Morrissey does a clever bit
    > later, by a turn of the phrase "dawn raid" again, by creating a
    > scenario where he's "taken down" in a police action by the
    > discovery without using the term a second time (dawn raid).

    > By the way...this seems lyric seems to be either a lift of the Autopilot
    > Off song "Friday Mourning" or a "response" song to it.
    > The similarity in tone and some phrases and themes are too close at points
    > to ignore:

    > Autopilot Off's "Friday Mourning"

    > A desperate breath inhaled, then it leaves you.
    > Hollowed out, and you struggle to feel something.
    > Abandoned eyes that drowned in the disbelief and
    > doubt, when you woke up Friday morning.

    > It still seems so surreal.
    > These scars should slowly heal.
    > I remember when you kneeled, you didn't say goodbye.
    > You knew she wasn't gone.
    > You whispered,
    > "Until we meet again, you'll be
    > watching me, I know.

    > Please save a place for me and when I'm finally
    > called back home, I'll see you smiling there."

    > The angels in your bedroom softly sing her name.
    > It's getting easier to sleep now.
    > So you feel some comfort, but still it's not the same.
    > But it's better than the twisted silence.
    > You woke up Friday morning.

    It would be interesting to know the exact date that Morrissey penned this one.

  11. #11
    PerfectlyWretched
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    Don't know... but the Autopilot Off song came out in 2002.

    I can swear one of the lines is from an Emily Dickinson poem, but I can't for the death of me recall which one.

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