The football factory / we'll let you know

[andrew from sydney]

Half way through watching this charming little film. Is this what football fans are like in the UK?
I read that this is actually what 'We'll let you know' is about? I'd be too scared to go to a match if that is the case!

[Grim O'Grady]

I've been going the match since I was a lad & I've seen the odds an sods kick-off but nowt so grandiose as the portrayal in that film, although there does appear to be some thruth in that there are organised gangs that do fight one another. Wigan who have just gained promotion to the premier league have a reputation for having a big 'firm', suprising really because they are such a small club.

Grim

> Half way through watching this charming little film. Is this what football
> fans are like in the UK?
> I read that this is actually what 'We'll let you know' is about? I'd be
> too scared to go to a match if that is the case!

[please]

> Half way through watching this charming little film. Is this what football
> fans are like in the UK?
> I read that this is actually what 'We'll let you know' is about? I'd be
> too scared to go to a match if that is the case!

A small section are like this and it was worse a few years ago.

[Not true]

> I've been going the match since I was a lad & I've seen the odds an
> sods kick-off but nowt so grandiose as the portrayal in that film,
> although there does appear to be some thruth in that there are organised
> gangs that do fight one another. Wigan who have just gained promotion to
> the premier league have a reputation for having a big 'firm', suprising
> really because they are such a small club.

> Grim

Wigan has a big firm? Erm..No they don't!! Wigan is rugby county and their hoolies are pathetic and even attack normal supporters -they are a laughing stock among hooligans. And they don't even have that many hoolies. West Ham ICF, Chelsea Headhunters, Cardiff soulcrew, Millwall Bushwackers, Tottenham's Yids - those are the serious and big firms, not clubs and hoolies like Wigan who attack families and kids.

I've seen bigger firms than in football factory, but those were in the 80's. Now, the firms are smaller but more organised, but still in the same grandiose as in FF. I think that FF portrays quite well the modern hooligans. In the old days hoolies would fight inside the grounds but today the fights take place miles away from the stadium, because of CCTV. But hooligans have these codes, where they don't attack normal supporters, they just wan't to fight with other hooligans. And I think that's fine, as long as no harm is done to ordinary supporters.

Whatever you may think about the hooligans, you've got to agree that they dress very smart. I like designer clothes that hoolies wear, but they're freakin expensive. 600 pounds for Stone Island Jacket and 150 for Armani Jeans, but money well spent.

[Grim O'Grady]

point taken but I'd still call 500 big! You watch them nutters next season.

> Wigan has a big firm? Erm..No they don't!! Wigan is rugby county and their
> hoolies are pathetic and even attack normal supporters -they are a
> laughing stock among hooligans. And they don't even have that many
> hoolies. West Ham ICF, Chelsea Headhunters, Cardiff soulcrew, Millwall
> Bushwackers, Tottenham's Yids - those are the serious and big firms, not
> clubs and hoolies like Wigan who attack families and kids.

> I've seen bigger firms than in football factory, but those were in the
> 80's. Now, the firms are smaller but more organised, but still in the same
> grandiose as in FF. I think that FF portrays quite well the modern
> hooligans. In the old days hoolies would fight inside the grounds but
> today the fights take place miles away from the stadium, because of CCTV.
> But hooligans have these codes, where they don't attack normal supporters,
> they just wan't to fight with other hooligans. And I think that's fine, as
> long as no harm is done to ordinary supporters.

> Whatever you may think about the hooligans, you've got to agree that they
> dress very smart. I like designer clothes that hoolies wear, but they're
> freakin expensive. 600 pounds for Stone Island Jacket and 150 for Armani
> Jeans, but money well spent.

[true then]

> point taken but I'd still call 500 big! You watch them nutters next
> season.

Yeah, they're nutters, because they attack women, kids, older people -ordinary supporters. I've never had any problems going to cardiff, den at south bermondsey or any other clubs with serius firms. But Wigan and some other so-called firms from that area are attacking innocent people and I think that it's wrong. As long as hooligans fight against each other, they don't bother me. But when they try to attack scarfers, it's just something I don't want to see. I really hope that some real firm will teach them a lesson next season.
Wigan is a fairly new club, with few fans, could that be the reason why they don't know or follow these unwritten rules of not bothering innocent people?
Off topic, but Elijah Frodo Wood is starring in a new movie, called hooligans, it's about west ham's hooligan firm. I was at the UP when they were filming a scene for it.