realitybites journal

[david_5]

Jehne, you just keep stacking up more and more lies. You post about me in your journal and then when I respond you say that I am baiting you? That really is some twisted logic.

You wrote "Well, d5 posted my real name, along with some of my user names on the GDF last night. I could have reacted with hostility or refuted what he posted. But, I am chosing not to take his bait. "

First of all, I don't know your real name, and I don't know what GDF stands for.

Then you write "It looks like he has saved posts from last August. He is known as the GUY who saves emails and private messages, then posts them for all to see. He once did a Photo Bucket slide show of messages that I had written. He posted the link on the main forum. Of course he failed to post the abusive messages that he had written."
First of all, I don't have to save what you wrote as Blake, because it is still on the morrisseymusic website. Anyone can go there and use the search feature to find the posts that you wrote as Blake.(and the posts that you wrote as yourself responding to the posts that you wrote as Blake) *cue twilight zone music*
Yes, I once did a slide show of your posts. After you wrote on the message board that I was harrassing you, I did show the messages you wrote to me, and those messages included my replies. If there had been anything to show that it was actually you that was being harrassed, I am sure that you would have shown it.

Yes, I still have private messages and deleted posts from you that I save so that I can show what you are really like when you start playing your favorite role, the victim. The difference is that I didn't make them up.

My problem with you is that you lie. Your problem with me is that I tell the truth.

You also write "I am over him and that site. I wrote about him because this is my journal. I wanted to vent. I feel bad for him, I have to admit. But he really should get help."

Jehne, if you are over me and the site, then quit writing about me and the site.

I told you a few months ago (when you were writing about another MM poster in your journal) that I had had enough of you and that I had given up on us resolving our differences.

You end your page about me by writing "One thing that I will never, ever be guilty of is stalking. I don't obsess over people. If someone wants to be left alone, than for goodness sakes, leave him or her alone.

So, I am sure d5 does not want me to write about him any longer. So I won't -- unless of course it is warranted."

Jehne, I asked you many times to quit writing about me and you continued to do so under a variety of names, even creating characters just to write about me. You are lying, and in such a self serving hypocritical way, "for goodness sakes". Give me a break, Jehne.

So now at this point you somehow know that I don't want you to write about me anymore and you say that you won't, "unless it is warranted". Do you realize how unbalanced that sounds? After all that you wrote accusing me of stalking you, you end with a threat to continue writing about me?

For the record, I don't want you to write about me and I don't want to be in the position to have to respond to it. Thanks in advance.

[blah blah blah]

[L]

> Jehne, you just keep stacking up more and more lies. You post about me in
> your journal and then when I respond you say that I am baiting you? That
> really is some twisted logic.

> You wrote "Well, d5 posted my real name, along with some of my user
> names on the GDF last night. I could have reacted with hostility or
> refuted what he posted. But, I am chosing not to take his bait. "

> First of all, I don't know your real name, and I don't know what GDF
> stands for.

> Then you write "It looks like he has saved posts from last August. He
> is known as the GUY who saves emails and private messages, then posts them
> for all to see. He once did a Photo Bucket slide show of messages that I
> had written. He posted the link on the main forum. Of course he failed to
> post the abusive messages that he had written."
> First of all, I don't have to save what you wrote as Blake, because it is
> still on the morrisseymusic website. Anyone can go there and use the
> search feature to find the posts that you wrote as Blake.(and the posts
> that you wrote as yourself responding to the posts that you wrote as
> Blake) *cue twilight zone music*
> Yes, I once did a slide show of your posts. After you wrote on the message
> board that I was harrassing you, I did show the messages you wrote to me,
> and those messages included my replies. If there had been anything to show
> that it was actually you that was being harrassed, I am sure that you
> would have shown it.

> Yes, I still have private messages and deleted posts from you that I save
> so that I can show what you are really like when you start playing your
> favorite role, the victim. The difference is that I didn't make them up.

> My problem with you is that you lie. Your problem with me is that I tell
> the truth.

> You also write "I am over him and that site. I wrote about him
> because this is my journal. I wanted to vent. I feel bad for him, I have
> to admit. But he really should get help."

> Jehne, if you are over me and the site, then quit writing about me and the
> site.

> I told you a few months ago (when you were writing about another MM poster
> in your journal) that I had had enough of you and that I had given up on
> us resolving our differences.

> You end your page about me by writing "One thing that I will never,
> ever be guilty of is stalking. I don't obsess over people. If someone
> wants to be left alone, than for goodness sakes, leave him or her alone.

> So, I am sure d5 does not want me to write about him any longer. So I
> won't -- unless of course it is warranted."

> Jehne, I asked you many times to quit writing about me and you continued
> to do so under a variety of names, even creating characters just to write
> about me. You are lying, and in such a self serving hypocritical way,
> "for goodness sakes". Give me a break, Jehne.

> So now at this point you somehow know that I don't want you to write about
> me anymore and you say that you won't, "unless it is warranted".
> Do you realize how unbalanced that sounds? After all that you wrote
> accusing me of stalking you, you end with a threat to continue writing
> about me?

> For the record, I don't want you to write about me and I don't want to be
> in the position to have to respond to it. Thanks in advance.

blimey i thought bertie (bertrand russel , reality bites )was a bloke *confused*

[Bertie]

You are doing a great job so far.

Thanks.

[Bertie]

> blimey i thought bertie (bertrand russel , reality bites )was a bloke
> *confused*

I never claimed to be male -- not even once. Did you assume I was gay then, when I wrote about my imaginary boyfriend, Keanu Reeves?

I have never lied about anything here -- ever. I have always been ME -- faults and all. If I did not correct some assumptions that were made, so be it.

This is proof that we DO still live in an androcentric world.

[la théière]

I've finally got it. You two are a comedy act! Or is it a tragic act?

[L]

> I never claimed to be male -- not even once. Did you assume I was gay
> then, when I wrote about my imaginary boyfriend, Keanu Reeves?

> I have never lied about anything here -- ever. I have always been ME --
> faults and all. If I did not correct some assumptions that were made, so
> be it.

> This is proof that we DO still live in an androcentric world.

i smell bullshit, you madam told me when you used to post as realitybites that you were a bloke and that you only came out recently , jehne you have told so many lies through out the years that you can't even remember them , you also used to post as smithson on MM and trolled most people on there did you not?

[Bertie]

> i smell bullshit, you madam told me when you used to post as realitybites
> that you were a bloke and that you only came out recently , jehne you have
> told so many lies through out the years that you can't even remember them
> , you also used to post as smithson on MM and trolled most people on there
> did you not?

You are full of it charminggirl. Go back in the archives and read all the posts made by realitybites. Read my journal. Before you go on a rampage, know the facts. I never said I was a gay male. You really are not very bright.

Over the years???? I have only been a member of this forum, and MM for less than a year. Go read Smithson's posts. I was NO troll but a valued poster on that forum.

You really like to instigate problems for people. You and David 5 should get together.

I have nothing to hide. Davidt knows I am female and posted as Smithson. He has known all along. When I was mistaken for being Melissa and harassed by freeyouself long ago, I did not advertise who I was, to protect my details from him. But as fy and I have come to an understanding of sorts, I have felt more free to let others know more about me. Read all of Bertie's posts. It is so obvious that I am female. You would have to be blind or careless (or could care less) to not see it. Look at my IP. Anyone with even the smallest intellect could put two and two together -- if he or she wanted to.

Why am I even explaining this to YOU? I really don't know. I don't want to waste my time explaining this any longer. Do your own research. Stop being so passive and lazy.

Now, why don't you go back to talking about Morrissey. Weren't you just telling Theo that he needs to keep his posts Morrissey related????

THERE ARE NO SECRETS! THERE IS NO DECEPTION! GET A HOLD OF YOURSELF WOMAN!

[L]

> You are full of it charminggirl. Go back in the archives and read all the
> posts made by realitybites. Read my journal. Before you go on a rampage,
> know the facts. I never said I was a gay male. You really are not very
> bright.

> Over the years???? I have only been a member of this forum, and MM for
> less than a year. Go read Smithson's posts. I was NO troll but a valued
> poster on that forum.

> You really like to instigate problems for people. You and David 5 should
> get together.

> I have nothing to hide. Davidt knows I am female and posted as Smithson.
> He has known all along. When I was mistaken for being Melissa and harassed
> by freeyouself long ago, I did not advertise who I was, to protect my
> details from him. But as fy and I have come to an understanding of sorts,
> I have felt more free to let others know more about me. Read all of
> Bertie's posts. It is so obvious that I am female. You would have to be
> blind or careless (or could care less) to not see it. Look at my IP.
> Anyone with even the smallest intellect could put two and two together --
> if he or she wanted to.

> Why am I even explaining this to YOU? I really don't know. I don't want to
> waste my time explaining this any longer. Do your own research. Stop being
> so passive and lazy.

> Now, why don't you go back to talking about Morrissey. Weren't you just
> telling Theo that he needs to keep his posts Morrissey related????

> THERE ARE NO SECRETS! THERE IS NO DECEPTION! GET A HOLD OF YOURSELF WOMAN!

ok jehne.

[Bertie]

> I've finally got it. You two are a comedy act! Or is it a tragic act?

A little of both.

[david_5]

> You are doing a great job so far.

> Thanks.

You are welcome. I am assuming that my DVD is in the mail? :P Seriously, as frustrating as it can be to deal with you, Jehne, I have to admit that you have a sense of humor. I don't think that I will ever understand why you chose to write about me and for a long time it was frustrating because I felt that I had to try to correct the things you wrote and the way that you portrayed me. In the end people are going to believe what they want and I am willing to let it go at that. When we were friendly I honestly did see a side of you that was likable and I am going to try to remember that side of you and I wish you all the best. I hope that now that we have both had our say that we can put this behind us once and for all.

[Bertie]

> You are welcome. I am assuming that my DVD is in the mail? :P Seriously,
> as frustrating as it can be to deal with you, Jehne, I have to admit that
> you have a sense of humor. I don't think that I will ever understand why
> you chose to write about me and for a long time it was frustrating because
> I felt that I had to try to correct the things you wrote and the way that
> you portrayed me. In the end people are going to believe what they want
> and I am willing to let it go at that. When we were friendly I honestly
> did see a side of you that was likable and I am going to try to remember
> that side of you and I wish you all the best. I hope that now that we have
> both had our say that we can put this behind us once and for all.

I wrote about you in my journal David, because you were continuing to stir-up trouble at MM. You were resurrecting old threads that you know would upset many posters, myself included. I saw this as a deliberate way to bait me and another regular. (We will not name this person). It seems like you wanted 'us' to react. But neither of us did. I would like to be able to move forward as well. Do you expect me to delete my journal entry? I cannot believe that you still have all those posts, PMs, and emails saved. Why? Are you not the one living in the past?

I think it is very sad what has happened at MM. Last summer and fall that place was alive -- a vibrant community. I don't think it will ever be like that again. The 'heart and soul' of that place has moved on. You know it. And I know it. So here we are at the 'original' and better Morrissey site -- the one we used to laugh about because we didn't know any better. This place will never dissolve like MM has, because its heart and soul IS the WEBMASTER himself. I want to stay here and post in peace. I am sure you would like to do the same.

*lays sword gently in front of feet

[Veering Cliffwards]

Damn, I had no idea there was so much drama over at MorrisseyMusic.

I never liked that forum and I don't care what went down over there. The libertarian in me enjoys the Wild Wild West of Morrissey-Solo.

However, when you say this:

> First of all, I don't have to save what you wrote as Blake, because it is
> still on the morrisseymusic website.

But then this:

> Yes, I once did a slide show of your posts.

(A SLIDE SHOW??!?!?!?!?!?)

And then this:

> Yes, I still have private messages and deleted posts from you that I save
> so that I can show what you are really like when you start playing your
> favorite role, the victim.

And then you ask:

> Do you realize how unbalanced that sounds?

I'm sorry, it is you who's sounding unbalanced...and rather stalkerish.

Of course it's none of my business...but you are injecting your retarded MorrisseyMusic drama on this forum for God knows what reason. Like you think you're a "man on a mission" who must follow Bertie to any new town she settle down in, to "set the record straight" about what an evil, horrible person she is. And ooo you're gonna expose all her screennames, as if the AKRON OHIO IP address was hiding anything to begin with. Jesus.

This is just the Internet. Don't take it so seriously. There's no need to save records of people's postings and emails and whatnot.

We haven't seen someone freaky enough to do that since...Beligerent Ghoul. -runs for the hills-

[Veering Cliffwards]

Vowed not to inflict my screenname on the board for a day, but I found a loophole.

[Veering Cliffwards]

> *lays sword gently in front of feet

Oops, I guess I wish I'd have seen you laying down your sword before I butted in! Sorry!

-Theo

[david_5]

> I wrote about you in my journal David, because you were continuing to
> stir-up trouble at MM. You were resurrecting old threads that you know
> would upset many posters, myself included. I saw this as a deliberate way
> to bait me and another regular. (We will not name this person). It seems
> like you wanted 'us' to react. But neither of us did. I would like to be
> able to move forward as well. Do you expect me to delete my journal entry?
> I cannot believe that you still have all those posts, PMs, and emails
> saved. Why? Are you not the one living in the past?

Why did the old threads upset anyone? Many people enjoyed seeing them. That forum can be very boring and for a couple of days seeing the old threads gave it a boost. I posted those threads because they were part of my experience at MM. I don't see how you can complain about something that you wrote. I don't apologize for bringing up the old threads. I might post a few that have been deleted next.

You write about me "continuing to stir up trouble". I started there knowing no one and I was interested in getting to know some Morrissey fans. I wound up involved in your feud with Erin before I realized what had happened. Then when you started posting about other people as Blake, I wrote to "Blake" several times asking you to stop ruining the forum. When it finally became obvious that you were Blake, and I named you as Blake, that was when you started writing about me. You also started that Blue Hog character, posted his picture, his girlfriend's picture and wrote for some time as this character without doing much to grab attention. Then suddenly one day you were writing about me as Blue Hog.
You are creative and I can admire a good put-on. There is an art to it. I am not even sure that there has to be a point to it to make it valid or worthwhile. I did take offense about a couple of things that you wrote about me, not about the way I acted on the board, but making charges about my real life when you really don't know much about my real life. That is sort of beyond the boundaries of good fun, I think. The same thing happened to you. Someone wrote about you, based on personal knowledge that you had shared with him off the board. I thought it was ugly, and even though I thought some of what you got was deserved, I thought that was wrong. I am sure you know what I mean. The way you must have felt when that was posted is the way I felt a few times when you wrote about me.

There is a way to have a healthy banter without making (un)substantiated allegations about a person's private life. When it goes beyond that point I don't really understand it.

I'll answer your question
> I cannot believe that you still have all those posts, PMs, and emails
> saved. Why? Are you not the one living in the past?

Why not? It isn't like I read them. I don't even have them on my computer. I would never post a PM from a friend, but when people send me harassing PM's I save them in case I need them later.

Anyway, I wanted to end this in a nice way. I have tried to say a few nice things and let it go. I wasn't looking for this to be an ongoing thing either. I would like to drop it, the sooner the better.

Thanks.

[Hamlet]

Posted By: david_5 (jps.net)
Date: Tuesday, 3 May 2005, at 11:02 a.m.

In Response To: Re: If I wanted to get people to read my journal, I would hire you to promote it. (Bertie)

The same thing
> happened to you. Someone wrote about you, based on personal knowledge that
> you had shared with him off the board. I thought it was ugly, and even
> though I thought some of what you got was deserved, I thought that was
> wrong. I am sure you know what I mean. The way you must have felt when
> that was posted is the way I felt a few times when you wrote about me.

"Someone wrote about you, based on personal knowledge that
you had shared with him off the board."

Could you tell us what was written about Jehne please?
Thank you.