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I don't understand the concept of men having a feminine side or women having a masculine side. Morrissey talks about it. I don't feel like I've got characteristics that are 'opposite' to my gender. I just feel like me. Anyone understand it?

 

[Glen Or Glenda]

> I don't understand the concept of men having a feminine side or
> women having a masculine side. Morrissey talks about it. I don't
> feel like I've got characteristics that are 'opposite' to my
> gender. I just feel like me. Anyone understand it?

Nothing is opposite your gender, because gender is all in the head. It's a role people play, noy a biological thing. Your sex is biological, but your gender is mental.
That said, both sexes make both testosterone and estrogen, and we all begin as women in the womb, us men just have an incomplete chromosone with a leg missing(Y instead of X), and we get sucked into a life with a rather troublesome appendage and more testosterone than women, and this causes alterations that women don't have to deal with...squared features, (often excess)bodyhair, baldness, etc...
But some men prefer things that are more "feminine" to the culture around them, and some women prefer more "masculine" things...whereas, in another culture, these things wouldn't neccessarily be more male or female, because each culture sets their gender roles differently..and they change with time as well. Pink used to be considered the most "masculine" colour to dress babies in, while blue was considered "soft and feminine"...that was at the end of the 19th Century, and now, 100 years later(not long in the big picture), it's been totally reversed! They would see all the pink toys for girls and think we were trying to raise dykes!
Gender is not a concrete thing.

 

[sdavenport]

hmmmmmm...

fairly well said. i'm surprised to find that anyone thinks around here...

 

[UnLOVeaBLE]

If I seem a little strange...

Well that´s because I am .
agree completely, with glen or glenda steven or stephanie ..

 

[suzanne]

right. i came across the relatively obscure fact that a few hundred years ago, men's fashions would change drastically from year to year while women's stayed the same.

now, we have to endure every bad stand up comic at Night at the Improv complaining about how women like to go shoe shopping and men hate clothes because it harkens back to the cavemen days.

 

[Glen Or Glenda]

Re: If I seem a little strange...

> Well that´s because I am .
> agree completely, with glen or glenda steven or stephanie ..

What the??...my name actually *is* Steve....do you know me?

 

[James (the despised)]

> Nothing is opposite your gender, because gender is all in the
> head. It's a role people play, noy a biological thing. Your sex
> is biological, but your gender is mental.
> That said, both sexes make both testosterone and estrogen, and
> we all begin as women in the womb, us men just have an
> incomplete chromosone with a leg missing(Y instead of X), and we
> get sucked into a life with a rather troublesome appendage and
> more testosterone than women, and this causes alterations that
> women don't have to deal with...squared features, (often
> excess)bodyhair, baldness, etc...
> But some men prefer things that are more "feminine" to
> the culture around them, and some women prefer more
> "masculine" things...whereas, in another culture,
> these things wouldn't neccessarily be more male or female,
> because each culture sets their gender roles differently..and
> they change with time as well. Pink used to be considered the
> most "masculine" colour to dress babies in, while blue
> was considered "soft and feminine"...that was at the
> end of the 19th Century, and now, 100 years later(not long in
> the big picture), it's been totally reversed! They would see all
> the pink toys for girls and think we were trying to raise dykes!
> Gender is not a concrete thing.

Excellent!!!!! this is one of the best posts I've seen in a long time.
(Or at least since my last post)
It contains something that is VERY VERY rare on this message board.
INTELLIGENCE.

 

[Glen Or Glenda]

> Excellent!!!!! this is one of the best posts I've seen in a long
> time.
> (Or at least since my last post)
> It contains something that is VERY VERY rare on this message
> board.
> INTELLIGENCE.

Thank you!
And thanks to everyone for the positive input!

 

[tompa]

The dividing between male and female behaivour is actually boring.
A male behaviour is rational and precise, while women act more emotionally and caring. My vision is uni-sex and androgynity, imagine a world-order where your identity would be based on your personality not your sex. But at the same time I´m more comfortable in female-contexts than male. And in such situations I feel my feminine side.

Reflexions from a tired male social-work student