Morrissey found dead in funeral home

[suzanne]

Re: pppppp

so tell me, if you don't listen to english lyrics, how did you get roped into all of this?!?!

> V.U.? The one that was released in the eighties? I always
> remember "Ocean" from this album. Velvet at its best.

oops. um, i meant Loaded, the last album they made before Lou Reed went solo for the first time.

> What exactly is frustrating in your relationship with Morrissey?

history repeats itself

> Oh, I think here you can find other people obsessive about
> Morrissey as well. At least here nobody can tell you are
> obsessive about him.

yes, you can't really tell, can ya? I do come here a lot. I keep up with what goes on. I own two books on him. I have a poster hanging on my wall. I own most of his studio release albums...barring some duplicate best of compilations...I cruise the web (of course, all I have to do is come around here now) looking for magazine articles on him. I've gone out of town to see his shows.

it really doesn't show does it?

i know for a fact that i do have a few, urm, "friends" who pop in and read this stuff and they tend to read what i say differently than a lot of people and it really changes up the relationship to this place quite a bit. suddenly, your happy little romp in the land of Mozziness is scrutinized, and you feel like having a bit of fun, and being sarcastic for sarcasm's sake, but sometimes people will take things the wrong way.

I think you have it confused with outright "yes sir" mindlessness. It's not mean to be critical of someone. It's concern, mostly. Not very well expressed, but it is.

> Anyway, in Curitiba almost nobody knows as much I am attached
> with this guy. My mail from work is [email protected]. Almost
> nobody knows what "moz" mean. I say it's my
> "secret". It's funny. Perhaps now that Morrissey seems
> to come here and see me some of my friends will read some
> newspaper and will the real meaning of "moz". Perhaps
> not.

i think it would be OK to say who you listened to. it's always fun to turn people onto things....even if I've never had much success at it. at least they will part way understand why i go unfazed when they start talking Blink 182. not that i'm a snob about such things, it;s just that they know my tastes are different.

it's not really like that. it's more like people know i've flown to see two of his concerts, yet they really don't know why. some things will never make any sense no matter how well you try to explain it, so it's better just to not say anything.

> Sorry for the translantion, but you see Suzanne? Few solo
> artists can make success following his own rules, stablishing
> solidly a new career after a great succes in a group. You see
> Echo came here to Curitiba and sang "Killing Moon" and
> lots of other success from their past. I didn't go. It would be
> sad.

Actually, i think their last release got loads of critical acclaim.

I think I have said many times that I'm happy he's getting out there and doing things.

> And there are some other people that see how difficult is to do
> what Morrissey does, as you see in the review above. But you
> refuse to see any merit in the choice Morrissey made.

i do. and i said he needed to get off his booty and go get signed somewhere.

> So think about and he'll go to Texas. Be sure.

i don't know if it's as simple as that.

> Any feelings there?

:^)

> What a good surprise!

really?!?!




a little song

 

[Fabricio]

Re: pppppp

> so tell me, if you don't listen to english lyrics, how did you
> get roped into all of this?!?!

I listen Morrissey lyrics, all of them. There's a marvelous site in internet where I could find the lyrics I didn't read before (as the Your Arsenal ones that had no lyrics toghether with the album), as well as the lyrics from B-sides I have never heard before. After this it was another marvelous site where I could catch the MP3's of all Morrissey songs that I didn't have.

And here begins my problem. As I could read in internet almost all lyrics of songs I like, I began to do it... but these lyrics almost never says nothing to me about my life. So I began to stop liking songs I liked before without knowing the lyrics... and i stoped to be interested in english lyrics (and you see even brazilian lyrics I don't pay attention to). Probably that's why my musical taste is completely different from most Morrissey fans. I prefere Black Sabbath and Snoop Dogg and Alice in Chains than Echo and Cure, this is a good example.

> oops. um, i meant Loaded, the last album they made before Lou
> Reed went solo for the first time.

Ooops. This is the only Velvet studio album I have never heard.

> history repeats itself

> yes, you can't really tell, can ya? I do come here a lot. I keep
> up with what goes on. I own two books on him. I have a poster
> hanging on my wall. I own most of his studio release
> albums...barring some duplicate best of compilations...I cruise
> the web (of course, all I have to do is come around here now)
> looking for magazine articles on him. I've gone out of town to
> see his shows.

I am as obsessive as well. I pass almost all my time in internet here. I read several times all his interviews.

And I really like my obsessiveness.

> it really doesn't show does it?

> i know for a fact that i do have a few, urm, "friends"
> who pop in and read this stuff and they tend to read what i say
> differently than a lot of people and it really changes up the
> relationship to this place quite a bit. suddenly, your happy
> little romp in the land of Mozziness is scrutinized, and you
> feel like having a bit of fun, and being sarcastic for sarcasm's
> sake, but sometimes people will take things the wrong way.

But I really don't think you are upset by what other people say. It's my impression, because I think you mean it.

You see I´m normally not upset when people take things in the wrong way about my opinions about Morrissey. What makes me irritaded here is when people says I have no right to like Smashing Pumpkins, Alanis Morissette or Black Sabbath. This is pedant and this is ridiculous.

> I think you have it confused with outright "yes sir"
> mindlessness. It's not mean to be critical of someone. It's
> concern, mostly. Not very well expressed, but it is.

Perhaps I have a "yes sir" mind about Morrissey. But I really think he is a different pop star, in terms of personality. Different for the good.

Perhaps what you feel is concern. Perhaps the good friends are the ones who never say it's all ok. I don't know. I won't change my mind anyway.

> i think it would be OK to say who you listened to. it's always
> fun to turn people onto things....even if I've never had much
> success at it.

Everybod knows I am a great Morrissey fan. But I am so obsessive with him that I wouldn't like to show myself completely. People tend to see things in the wrong way, as you said before. So I say i like Madredeus and Robert Johnson and Black Sabbath too...

>at least they will part way understand why i go
> unfazed when they start talking Blink 182. not that i'm a snob
> about such things, it;s just that they know my tastes are
> different.

I heard a Blink 182 song at MTV and I really liked it. Nobody understands how I can like such different musics. It's difficult to me to hate completely a kind music, as I do with Björk ones and the horrendous "brazilian country music". But lately i became I bit more secure about my tastes. If somebody doesn't like it, it's his problem.

> it's not really like that. it's more like people know i've flown
> to see two of his concerts, yet they really don't know why. some
> things will never make any sense no matter how well you try to
> explain it, so it's better just to not say anything.

I agree. The wrong are the others. They have nothing to do with what we do.

> Actually, i think their last release got loads of critical
> acclaim.

And why they didn't sing most of these new songs, and they concentrate the most part of the show in songs everybody expected to hear? An artist must sing what he really feels in that moment.

Anyway, I think their last release it's very good until the second song. After it, all song seems the same.

> I think I have said many times that I'm happy he's getting out
> there and doing things.

Oh ok ok...

> i do. and i said he needed to get off his booty and go get
> signed somewhere.

The positive point I was talking about was the one that was written in the review I translated.

> i don't know if it's as simple as that.

But if he doesn't go to Texas just because of you, perhaps what I said was a god way of begining.

> :^)

Sorry, but what does it mean?

> really?!?!

Sometimes you seem to have no feelings, this is the point.> so tell me, if you don't listen to english lyrics, how did you
> get roped into all of this?!?!

I listen Morrissey lyrics, all of them. There's a marvelous site in internet where I could find the lyrics I didn't read before (as the Your Arsenal ones that had no lyrics toghether with the album), as well as the lyrics from B-sides I have never heard before. After this it was another marvelous site where I could catch the MP3's of all Morrissey songs that I didn't have.

And here begins my problem. As I could read in internet almost all lyrics of songs I like, I began to do it... but these lyrics almost never says nothing to me about my life. So I began to stop liking songs I liked before without knowing the lyrics... and i stoped to be interested in english lyrics (and you see even brazilian lyrics I don't pay attention to). Probably that's why my musical taste is completely different from most Morrissey fans. I prefere Black Sabbath and Snoop Dogg and Alice in Chains than Echo and Cure, this is a good example.

> oops. um, i meant Loaded, the last album they made before Lou
> Reed went solo for the first time.

Ooops. This is the only Velvet studio album I have never heard.

> history repeats itself

> yes, you can't really tell, can ya? I do come here a lot. I keep
> up with what goes on. I own two books on him. I have a poster
> hanging on my wall. I own most of his studio release
> albums...barring some duplicate best of compilations...I cruise
> the web (of course, all I have to do is come around here now)
> looking for magazine articles on him. I've gone out of town to
> see his shows.

I am as obsessive as well. I passe almost all my time in internet here. I read several times all his interviews.

And I really like my obsessiveness.

> it really doesn't show does it?

> i know for a fact that i do have a few, urm, "friends"
> who pop in and read this stuff and they tend to read what i say
> differently than a lot of people and it really changes up the
> relationship to this place quite a bit. suddenly, your happy
> little romp in the land of Mozziness is scrutinized, and you
> feel like having a bit of fun, and being sarcastic for sarcasm's
> sake, but sometimes people will take things the wrong way.

But I really don't think you are upset by what other people say. It's my impression, because I think you mean it.

You see I normally I'm not upset when people take things in the wrong way about my opinions about Morrissey. What makes me irritaded here is when people says I have no right to like Smashing Pumpkins, Alanis Morissette or Black Sabbath. This is pedant and this is ridiculous.

> I think you have it confused with outright "yes sir"
> mindlessness. It's not mean to be critical of someone. It's
> concern, mostly. Not very well expressed, but it is.

Perhaps I have a "yes sir" mind about Morrissey. But I really think he is a different pop star, in terms of personality. Different for the good.

Perhaps what you feel is concern. Perhaps the good friends are the ones who never say it's all ok. I don't know. I won't change my mind anyway.

> i think it would be OK to say who you listened to. it's always
> fun to turn people onto things....even if I've never had much
> success at it.

Everybod knows I am a great Morrissey fan. But I am so obsessive with him that I wouldn't like to show myself completely. People tend to see things in the wrong way, as you said before. So I say i like Madredeus and Robert Johnson and Black Sabbath too...

>at least they will part way understand why i go
> unfazed when they start talking Blink 182. not that i'm a snob
> about such things, it;s just that they know my tastes are
> different.

I heard a Blink 182 song at MTV and I really liked it. Nobody understands how I can like such different musics. It's difficult to me to hate completely music, as I do with Björk ones and the horrendous "brazilian country music". But lately i became I bit more secure about my tastes. If somebody doesn't like it, it's his problem.

> it's not really like that. it's more like people know i've flown
> to see two of his concerts, yet they really don't know why. some
> things will never make any sense no matter how well you try to
> explain it, so it's better just to not say anything.

I agree. The wrong are the others. They have nothing to do with what we do.

> Actually, i think their last release got loads of critical
> acclaim.

And why they didn't sing most of these new songs, and they concentrate the most part of the show in songs everybody expected to hear? An artist must sing what he really feels in that moment.

Anyway, I think their last release it's very good until the second song. After it, all song seems the same.

> I think I have said many times that I'm happy he's getting out
> there and doing things.

Oh ok ok...

> i do. and i said he needed to get off his booty and go get
> signed somewhere.

The positive point I was talking about was the one that was written in the review I tranlated.

> i don't know if it's as simple as that.

But if he doesn't go to Texas just because of you, perhaps what I said was a god way of begining.

> :^)

Sorry, but what does it mean?

> really?!?!

Really really!!!

 

[suzanne]

my computer: the P.O.S. 2000

> I listen Morrissey lyrics, all of them. There's a marvelous site
> in internet where I could find the lyrics I didn't read before
> (as the Your Arsenal ones that had no lyrics toghether with the
> album), as well as the lyrics from B-sides I have never heard
> before. After this it was another marvelous site where I could
> catch the MP3's of all Morrissey songs that I didn't have.

> And here begins my problem. As I could read in internet almost
> all lyrics of songs I like, I began to do it... but these lyrics
> almost never says nothing to me about my life. So I began to
> stop liking songs I liked before without knowing the lyrics...
> and i stoped to be interested in english lyrics (and you see
> even brazilian lyrics I don't pay attention to). Probably that's
> why my musical taste is completely different from most Morrissey
> fans. I prefere Black Sabbath and Snoop Dogg and Alice in Chains
> than Echo and Cure, this is a good example.

maybe the lyrics don't have to say anything about your life. maybe the music can do it instead.

> Ooops. This is the only Velvet studio album I have never heard.

i'm not very sure, but i think it was a re-release somehow involved with it in promotion for the box set.

> I am as obsessive as well. I pass almost all my time in internet
> here. I read several times all his interviews.

i don't take it that far. i come here in short spurts and try to pass my time in other ways....sometimes i do lack the inspiration for that and come around looking for a bit.

> And I really like my obsessiveness.

> But I really don't think you are upset by what other people say.
> It's my impression, because I think you mean it.

but you actually never know what i mean. such a thing as a web site is good for that.

> You see I´m normally not upset when people take things in the
> wrong way about my opinions about Morrissey. What makes me
> irritaded here is when people says I have no right to like
> Smashing Pumpkins, Alanis Morissette or Black Sabbath. This is
> pedant and this is ridiculous.

and on the same token, you make people like me sound bad for mentioning anything critical of Morrissey.

anyway, many of those people are still under the impression that Morrissey will sleep with them.

> Perhaps I have a "yes sir" mind about Morrissey. But I
> really think he is a different pop star, in terms of
> personality. Different for the good.

> Perhaps what you feel is concern. Perhaps the good friends are
> the ones who never say it's all ok. I don't know. I won't change
> my mind anyway.

> Everybod knows I am a great Morrissey fan. But I am so obsessive
> with him that I wouldn't like to show myself completely. People
> tend to see things in the wrong way, as you said before. So I
> say i like Madredeus and Robert Johnson and Black Sabbath too...

it's not that. i really didn't mind sharing my stuff with anyone. i just feel a bit odd for the direction i've taken it in the past couple of years. it's really uncharacteristic for my personality.

> I heard a Blink 182 song at MTV and I really liked it. Nobody
> understands how I can like such different musics. It's difficult
> to me to hate completely a kind music, as I do with Björk ones
> and the horrendous "brazilian country music". But
> lately i became I bit more secure about my tastes. If somebody
> doesn't like it, it's his problem.

hey, what do ya do? nobody likes anybody.

> I agree. The wrong are the others. They have nothing to do with
> what we do.

Maybe, but it feels more like a double life instead of a coherent whole. here's me here....then here's me there....neither one are correct seperately.

> And why they didn't sing most of these new songs, and they
> concentrate the most part of the show in songs everybody
> expected to hear? An artist must sing what he really feels in
> that moment.

isn't that what morrissey did on this tour?

> Anyway, I think their last release it's very good until the
> second song. After it, all song seems the same.

welcome to pop music

> Oh ok ok...

> The positive point I was talking about was the one that was
> written in the review I translated.

> But if he doesn't go to Texas just because of you, perhaps what
> I said was a god way of begining.

heh...i think you misunderstood my original post a bit.

> Sorry, but what does it mean?

what does a smile mean?

> Sometimes you seem to have no feelings, this is the point.

i think i say things a bit differently than most people. i think that what i feel for many things should be left for me, and i dont' care for people adding or taking away from it.

 

[Fabricio]

Re: my computer: the P.O.S. 2000

> maybe the lyrics don't have to say anything about your life.
> maybe the music can do it instead.

Yes. I think sometimes I can feel what the singer feels. Without understanding the lyrics this easier, I think.

> i'm not very sure, but i think it was a re-release somehow
> involved with it in promotion for the box set.

Loaded was released in Brazil, but "Velvet Underground and Nico" never was. Can you believe?

> i don't take it that far. i come here in short spurts and try to
> pass my time in other ways....sometimes i do lack the
> inspiration for that and come around looking for a bit.

I think you said you was too obsessive.

> but you actually never know what i mean. such a thing as a web
> site is good for that.

I think you never recognize you meant something.

> and on the same token, you make people like me sound bad for
> mentioning anything critical of Morrissey.

Really? Well, I never wanted anybody sounds bad because of Morrissey. I just think he is a good guy.

But my point is that nobody is obliged to like Black Sabbath or Smashing Pumpkins: if anyone disagree with me I see no problem in it. I am in a Discussion Board. What makes me upset is when people lacking completely education with me or when they say I have no right to say something here. I try to respect people. If I lacked of respect with you, sorry. It's not my common style anyway.

> anyway, many of those people are still under the impression that
> Morrissey will sleep with them.

Yes, you are right.

> it's not that. i really didn't mind sharing my stuff with
> anyone. i just feel a bit odd for the direction i've taken it in
> the past couple of years. it's really uncharacteristic for my
> personality.

Well, the direction my life has taken the past two years makes me proud someway. It's so "normal" that seems odd.

> hey, what do ya do? nobody likes anybody.

I like my daughter, you know?

Anyway, outside our own family, nobody pays attention to anybody. This is rather more correct.

> Maybe, but it feels more like a double life instead of a
> coherent whole. here's me here....then here's me
> there....neither one are correct seperately.

If you work in a big industry you HAVE to have another personality. I simpy can't see me puting a Morrissey poster in my works's wall.

> isn't that what morrissey did on this tour?

What? He sang what his public wanted? I don't see things that way. His public knows he sings what he wants. That's why he is respected by his public.

> welcome to pop music

This was fine.

> heh...i think you misunderstood my original post a bit.

You wrote:
"
I am so well known and respected by Moz himself that he doesn't come to my home state on tour and I have to fly to California and pay to get into his shows, stand behind the barrier, and have stoner yuppies put their elbow in my face as Morrissey drives off in his limo and has a cheap laugh at my expense, and David still thinks I'm cool because of it.
"
If I misanderstood you, so why did he fled you?

> what does a smile mean?

Good question.

I can't answer anyway.

> i think i say things a bit differently than most people. i think
> that what i feel for many things should be left for me, and i
> dont' care for people adding or taking away from it.

I don't know you have to hide what you feel.

At least not the way you do.

 

[suzanne]

Re: my computer: the P.O.S. 2000

> Yes. I think sometimes I can feel what the singer feels. Without
> understanding the lyrics this easier, I think.

not even the emotion of the singer. what about the music itself?

> Loaded was released in Brazil, but "Velvet Underground and
> Nico" never was. Can you believe?

i don't know. maybe

> I think you said you was too obsessive.

i did.

> I think you never recognize you meant something.

have you ever seen the movie the Matrix?

> Really? Well, I never wanted anybody sounds bad because of
> Morrissey. I just think he is a good guy.

> But my point is that nobody is obliged to like Black Sabbath or
> Smashing Pumpkins: if anyone disagree with me I see no problem
> in it. I am in a Discussion Board. What makes me upset is when
> people lacking completely education with me or when they say I
> have no right to say something here. I try to respect people. If
> I lacked of respect with you, sorry. It's not my common style
> anyway.

> Yes, you are right.

> Well, the direction my life has taken the past two years makes
> me proud someway. It's so "normal" that seems odd.

> I like my daughter, you know?

> Anyway, outside our own family, nobody pays attention to
> anybody. This is rather more correct.

yeah and it sucks on a level because how do you really know who is worth letting in for any sort of long term thing? people come and go very quickly.

> If you work in a big industry you HAVE to have another
> personality. I simpy can't see me puting a Morrissey poster in
> my works's wall.

i can without thinking about it.

> What? He sang what his public wanted? I don't see things that
> way. His public knows he sings what he wants. That's why he is
> respected by his public.

*sigh* we've been through this so many times...he brought out Smith's songs for crying in the beer.

> This was fine.

> You wrote:
> "
> I am so well known and respected by Moz himself that he doesn't
> come to my home state on tour and I have to fly to California
> and pay to get into his shows, stand behind the barrier, and
> have stoner yuppies put their elbow in my face as Morrissey
> drives off in his limo and has a cheap laugh at my expense, and
> David still thinks I'm cool because of it.
> "
> If I misanderstood you, so why did he fled you?

the reason i wrote that was in sarcasm out of my "ties" to David Tseng and how they were blown out of proportion to the reality of the situation.

so, to you, it would actually make sense that stuff like that would happen? where morrissey takes a fan who he has never met or had contact with in his entire life and flees them? what did i do? why would you think at all why he would do such a thing?

hell, if it's about coming to this web site and singling the baddies out to strike down with a vengeance, then he would have stayed at home and not toured at all. then again, i do have a cloud that follows me everywhere i go that brings bad luck. in the context of that, it would make sense.

although, i do have to say that the whole thing about Houston not giving him enough money to perform a show is a bunch of crock. You're telling me that some hicks in Flagstaff, Arizona were able to meet his price and a gigantic metropolis (with the 3rd largest television market in the US, so that means it is pretty @#!!!ing huge) within driving radius of many other major cities can't? also, why would he think that Corpus Christi be able to round up such a large sum?

> Good question.

> I can't answer anyway.

> I don't know you have to hide what you feel.

> At least not the way you do.

i'm half catholic. it happens.

 

[Fabricio]

Re: my computer: the P.O.S. 2000

> not even the emotion of the singer. what about the music itself?

Oh yeah. I forgot to mention it.

> i did.

I knew i was not crazy.

Well, perhaps not.

> have you ever seen the movie the Matrix?

No. It seems a good one. Is it about what?

> yeah and it sucks on a level because how do you really know who
> is worth letting in for any sort of long term thing? people come
> and go very quickly.

Some come and go but some stay. You have to have patience in waiting the right person.

> i can without thinking about it.

I think you have the courage that lacks me.

> *sigh* we've been through this so many times...

But it's nice to walk in circles, don't you think? We always do it. And I particulary like it.

> the reason i wrote that was in sarcasm out of my
> "ties" to David Tseng and how they were blown out of
> proportion to the reality of the situation.

> so, to you, it would actually make sense that stuff like that
> would happen?

Who knows?

>where morrissey takes a fan who he has never met
> or had contact with in his entire life and flees them?

He is a funny guy.

>what did
> i do?

I told you what you did!!!

> why would you think at all why he would do such a thing?

Well, he always surprise us.

> hell, if it's about coming to this web site and singling the
> baddies out to strike down with a vengeance, then he would have
> stayed at home and not toured at all.

It's not vengeance, it's a way to open your beautiful eyes!!!

> then again, i do have a
> cloud that follows me everywhere i go that brings bad luck. in
> the context of that, it would make sense.

So it's time to change and it's time to send down your cloud!!!

> although, i do have to say that the whole thing about Houston
> not giving him enough money to perform a show is a bunch of
> crock. You're telling me that some hicks in Flagstaff, Arizona
> were able to meet his price and a gigantic metropolis (with the
> 3rd largest television market in the US, so that means it is
> pretty @#!!! ing huge) within driving radius of many other
> major cities can't? also, why would he think that Corpus Christi
> be able to round up such a large sum?

Oh yeah. In fact he gave such an absurd justification just because of you.

> i'm half catholic. it happens.

I am completely catholic.

Do you believe in God?

 

[suzanne]

Re: my computer: the P.O.S. 2000

> No. It seems a good one. Is it about what?

It's about Keanu Reeves. Basically, it revolves around this idea that in the future, computers came to control us by hooking up to our brains in this Virtual Reality program to keep us all slaves to the machine's needs. Laurence Fishburne and his group break him free because they think that Keanu has the power to destroy this program and manipulate the matrix to however he sees fit. The more times you see it, the more you realize how clever the whole concept is.

> Some come and go but some stay. You have to have patience in
> waiting the right person.

The sad part is many think they have them, but 20 years later, they wake up one morning and realize they are married to a loser. It's hard to get started over at that point.

> I think you have the courage that lacks me.

I doubt.

> But it's nice to walk in circles, don't you think? We always do
> it. And I particulary like it.

but it doesn't really accomplish much

> Who knows?

> He is a funny guy.

There is a difference between funny and logic.

> I told you what you did!!!

not really. the thing is, if he decided to do that for me specifically, there would be a certain reason for it that other people would lack.

> Well, he always surprise us.

And then there are those times when we start to venture into the land of silliness. And i notice basically what you do is find the opposing side and make a contradiction

"I came here for an argument."

> It's not vengeance, it's a way to open your beautiful eyes!!!

too what?

anyway, your logic is still faulty. many times, i am is biggest defender, and many times I'm not. what you are suggesting is pure mind control on his part that all I do is parrot whatever he wants. What sort of existance would that be? And if he only did it because I fail to live up to some expectation, and it's personally not my fault, it would be a complete waste of time on his part to continue it.

Well, that can't be done, and I personally think he would be more intelligent than that to be able to expect it.

Also, I think he would be more intelligent to also include instructions. After all, what better way to stop the cycle than to give options to end it? As you can see, I don't have contact with him. I've never spoken to him. I couldn't even hope to get a press pass as a fanzine editor. I've never been backstage at a show. If he doesn't even read this messageboard, then how would he know of me? Therefore, the events you have cooked up don't really make any sense.

> So it's time to change and it's time to send down your cloud!!!

The cloud is it's own force of nature. I can't really remember the last time I made my own decision about something and had it work.

> Oh yeah. In fact he gave such an absurd justification just
> because of you.

how would you know this? What about the people in Florida? Am I in it with them? This would be very far reaching.

> I am completely catholic.

ah.

> Do you believe in God?

i'm debating all that. you begin to realize that one day, you will die, and something will happen. on many levels both evolution and religion are hard to accept, but here we are anyway. i don't have complete trust in scientists because they can't even examine what goes on today with any accuracy. All the people who go to the doctor and leave with misdiagnosed illnesses, undiscovered health problems, or the others that make up idiotic studies saying that tobacco doesn;t cause cancer and other fun studies that bring in research grants, and yet, we trust people of equal intelligence to examine things that no longer live and make an accurate judgment of what had happened.

 

[greasetea]

Re: my computer: the P.O.S. 2000

ummmm...you know what I finlly got it. My dense thick head finally got your style and technique. Very cool snapneck. Me likey... Honestly.

Moz rawks tha' houzzzeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaa

 

[Fabricio]

Re: my computer: the P.O.S. 2000

(I am hearing V.U. now - the song "Foggy Notion" - do you know this album? It's wondeful!)

> It's about Keanu Reeves. Basically, it revolves around this idea
> that in the future, computers came to control us by hooking up
> to our brains in this Virtual Reality program to keep us all
> slaves to the machine's needs. Laurence Fishburne and his group
> break him free because they think that Keanu has the power to
> destroy this program and manipulate the matrix to however he
> sees fit. The more times you see it, the more you realize how
> clever the whole concept is.

It's a kind of "1984" with a computer programmer? I work with computer programs, I don't think they'll have such a power in the near future.

> The sad part is many think they have them, but 20 years later,
> they wake up one morning and realize they are married to a
> loser. It's hard to get started over at that point.

But you see so many times people put the blame in another person when the blame had to be put to themselves.

Just another way of seeing things.

> I doubt.

I don't know really.

> but it doesn't really accomplish much

Not for you probably. But it's always a pleasure to me being near you, you know...

> There is a difference between funny and logic.

Do you see any logic in Seinfeld? No certainly, but it's really funny.

> not really. the thing is, if he decided to do that for me
> specifically, there would be a certain reason for it that other
> people would lack.

Why I would lack the reason? You don't see a good side of Morrissey, and perhaps you see as a good thing something wrong that he usually does.

> And then there are those times when we start to venture into the
> land of silliness.

Hey Suzanne, all began as a joke for me. But it has some logic, you know. You are the more important writer on this board, why Morrissey wouldn't hear of you?

>And i notice basically what you do is find
> the opposing side and make a contradiction

hahahahahahahahaha. Peguei-te cavaquinho!!!

> "I came here for an argument."

But we walk a lot with our conversations. Why to find some logic?

> too what?

> anyway, your logic is still faulty. many times, i am is biggest
> defender, and many times I'm not. what you are suggesting is
> pure mind control on his part that all I do is parrot whatever
> he wants. What sort of existance would that be? And if he only
> did it because I fail to live up to some expectation, and it's
> personally not my fault, it would be a complete waste of time on
> his part to continue it.

But you swear you can't find anything positive in having his own rules? Do you really think Morrissey does what every pop star does? That's our point. It's not a case of mind control.

> Well, that can't be done, and I personally think he would be
> more intelligent than that to be able to expect it.

He may respect you and he tries to call your attention, showing he knows you.

> Also, I think he would be more intelligent to also include
> instructions. After all, what better way to stop the cycle than
> to give options to end it? As you can see, I don't have contact
> with him. I've never spoken to him. I couldn't even hope to get
> a press pass as a fanzine editor. I've never been backstage at a
> show. If he doesn't even read this messageboard, then how would
> he know of me? Therefore, the events you have cooked up don't
> really make any sense.

As I said before, this began as a kind of joke. And you began that. I don't know if you are taking this seriously or not.

I really don't know if he knows about you.

But you see if he reads this post he CERTAINLY knows about you.

You are the bigger poster here.

All the thing about he's not going to Texas was a way I found to be nearer you.

But if you want really my opinion... I think he is proud of the way he is doing things. I see in Brazil so many artists making purely the "Market Game", you know.

> The cloud is it's own force of nature. I can't really remember
> the last time I made my own decision about something and had it
> work.

Pray Suzanne.

I was just like you.

The cloud is not stronger than Christ.

And I don't know if you'll take me seriously here but I am talking serioulsy.

> how would you know this? What about the people in Florida? Am I
> in it with them? This would be very far reaching.

Oh certainly. I like this way.

> ah.

> i'm debating all that. you begin to realize that one day, you
> will die, and something will happen. on many levels both
> evolution and religion are hard to accept, but here we are
> anyway. i don't have complete trust in scientists because they
> can't even examine what goes on today with any accuracy. All the
> people who go to the doctor and leave with misdiagnosed
> illnesses, undiscovered health problems, or the others that make
> up idiotic studies saying that tobacco doesn;t cause cancer and
> other fun studies that bring in research grants, and yet, we
> trust people of equal intelligence to examine things that no
> longer live and make an accurate judgment of what had happened.

I agree with you. But science makes mistakes, every scientist will agree with you. The so-called "scientific" method can't see everything.

God can.

 

[suzanne]

sorry, you aren't getting my bud lite

no need to brown nose, my friend. I'm not applying for the job of board moderator.

> ummmm...you know what I finlly got it. My dense thick head
> finally got your style and technique. Very cool snapneck. Me
> likey... Honestly.

> Moz rawks tha' houzzzeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaa

 

[greasetea]

Hey monkey, here's a nice razor...

I'd rather stick my own arm up my ass and pull out my large intestine than kiss your sorry hairy zit riddled ass. I still stand ground that I like your previous post but as far as you go, Your a dumb junkie-hag nipple and if I was the ruler of this world, i'd make you choke on your own gut juice yah tinky ass toinky toink.

Morrissey boots for sale.

 

[suzanne]

Re: my computer: the P.O.S. 2000

> (I am hearing V.U. now - the song "Foggy Notion" - do
> you know this album? It's wondeful!)

nope. I did, however, dig out their first album last night.

> It's a kind of "1984" with a computer programmer? I
> work with computer programs, I don't think they'll have such a
> power in the near future.

I don't know because I really don't know anything about 1984.

> But you see so many times people put the blame in another person
> when the blame had to be put to themselves.

Who doesn't want to blame someone else? It's the highlight of my day.

> Just another way of seeing things.

> I don't know really.

> Not for you probably. But it's always a pleasure to me being
> near you, you know...

yes, thousands of miles away on a computer.

> Do you see any logic in Seinfeld? No certainly, but it's really
> funny.

Sometimes, but nothing compelling enough to watch many episodes.

> Why I would lack the reason? You don't see a good side of
> Morrissey, and perhaps you see as a good thing something wrong
> that he usually does.

hmm...

> Hey Suzanne, all began as a joke for me. But it has some logic,
> you know. You are the more important writer on this board, why
> Morrissey wouldn't hear of you?

I'm longstanding, that's for sure. So are many people.

> hahahahahahahahaha. Peguei-te cavaquinho!!!

Ah...portuguese. I have no friggin clue.

> But we walk a lot with our conversations. Why to find some
> logic?

> But you swear you can't find anything positive in having his own
> rules? Do you really think Morrissey does what every pop star
> does? That's our point. It's not a case of mind control.

I do. I did say it. What do you think I'm supposed to do? Post a congratulatory letter every day? OK.

Hey, Morrissey. Amongst a web site full of people who criticize your music, hair, clothes, and the people you hang out with more than I have ever thought of doing, I would like to say I'm sorry for even thinking a negative thought about you. I've tried to be a better fan. I know that there are certain rules that apply only to me and nobody else. Some might call me "paranoid" or a "lunatic" but I know you are out to get me. Despite the many years of my patronizing places such as this, the years that I've listened to your music, put up with everyone's taunting in general, and giving you many great ideas for what to do with yourself via this place and never asking for a kind word or recognition in return, I know it's still not good enough. Despite the years of my hammering out my own music as a tribute to you and being repaid with kind comments from the bookers such as "I put you on early in the evening to give people the idea that real music will be playing later on that night" that I know I must do better. I must! There is something I am missing. What is it?

> He may respect you and he tries to call your attention, showing
> he knows you.

Nobody should have any respect for me. I've been trying to rid myself of that for a long time.

> As I said before, this began as a kind of joke. And you began
> that. I don't know if you are taking this seriously or not.

Well, I thought you were...

> I really don't know if he knows about you.

> But you see if he reads this post he CERTAINLY knows about you.

> You are the bigger poster here.

I'm merely big boned!

> All the thing about he's not going to Texas was a way I found to
> be nearer you.

heh..ok. but say for just a brief second that it wasn't a joke. basically, you would be corresponding with someone on Mozzer's @#!!! list. think about that.

> But if you want really my opinion... I think he is proud of the
> way he is doing things. I see in Brazil so many artists making
> purely the "Market Game", you know.

> Pray Suzanne.

> I was just like you.

> The cloud is not stronger than Christ.

I think it is the Christ cloud.

> And I don't know if you'll take me seriously here but I am
> talking serioulsy.

> Oh certainly. I like this way.

> I agree with you. But science makes mistakes, every scientist
> will agree with you. The so-called "scientific" method
> can't see everything.

> God can.

Well, I hope he can't see me when I'm taking a shower.

 

[Fabricio]

Re: my computer: the P.O.S. 2000

> I don't know because I really don't know anything about 1984.

It seems that there is something called "Big Brother" that controls every act of every people in the future (well, the book was written in the fifties, I think - and the future would be in 1984...)

> Who doesn't want to blame someone else? It's the highlight of my
> day.

Not mine for sure. I am guilty for almost everything.

> yes, thousands of miles away on a computer.

Oh don't be unfair with me.

> Sometimes, but nothing compelling enough to watch many episodes.

In the Cable TV here it passes Seinfeld everyday, at 12 o'clock pm. I normally watch everyday, and I laugh a lot.

> hmm...

Mmmmmmmm....

> Ah...portuguese. I have no friggin clue.

Sorry it was very spontaneous. It's a kind of "I caught you, dude!!!"

> I do. I did say it. What do you think I'm supposed to do? Post a
> congratulatory letter every day? OK.

No, it's not that for sure.

> Hey, Morrissey. Amongst a web site full of people who criticize
> your music, hair, clothes, and the people you hang out with more
> than I have ever thought of doing, I would like to say I'm sorry
> for even thinking a negative thought about you. I've tried to be
> a better fan. I know that there are certain rules that apply
> only to me and nobody else. Some might call me
> "paranoid" or a "lunatic" but I know you are
> out to get me. Despite the many years of my patronizing places
> such as this, the years that I've listened to your music, put up
> with everyone's taunting in general, and giving you many great
> ideas for what to do with yourself via this place and never
> asking for a kind word or recognition in return, I know it's
> still not good enough. Despite the years of my hammering out my
> own music as a tribute to you and being repaid with kind
> comments from the bookers such as "I put you on early in
> the evening to give people the idea that real music will be
> playing later on that night" that I know I must do better.
> I must! There is something I am missing. What is it?

Again I felt deep emotions in you, Suzanne.

But it's not that. Perhaps he just wants to be seen as a normal people.

> Nobody should have any respect for me. I've been trying to rid
> myself of that for a long time.

Everybody needs to be respected.

> Well, I thought you were...

No I am not.

Well, you wouldn't believe me anyway.

Sometimes not even I believe in it.

> I'm merely big boned!

Hehehehe. Ok. And I am the most important brazilian person here.

> heh..ok. but say for just a brief second that it wasn't a joke.
> basically, you would be corresponding with someone on Mozzer's
> @#!!! list. think about that.

I just don't know how to answer you.

> Well, I hope he can't see me when I'm taking a shower.

He can for sure.

Unfortunately you may be sure I can't.

 

[suzanne]

Re: my computer: the P.O.S. 2000

> It seems that there is something called "Big Brother"
> that controls every act of every people in the future (well, the
> book was written in the fifties, I think - and the future would
> be in 1984...)

Isn't it fun? Reminscent of Aldous Huxley's book about people being genetically engineered....

Yes, it is very easy to pinpoint the Matrix's influences.

> Not mine for sure. I am guilty for almost everything.

> Oh don't be unfair with me.

I have to be. Reality is not cool, but it exists.

> In the Cable TV here it passes Seinfeld everyday, at 12 o'clock
> pm. I normally watch everyday, and I laugh a lot.

I'm subjected to Extra and Sally during lunch. Speaking of 1984, the breakroom only gets 2 channels....both that broadcast out of my building.

> Sorry it was very spontaneous. It's a kind of "I caught
> you, dude!!!"

Ah.

> No, it's not that for sure.

> Again I felt deep emotions in you, Suzanne.

perhaps, but which ones?

> But it's not that. Perhaps he just wants to be seen as a normal
> people.

Maybe if he started acting like one, he will be treated like one! :^)

Did you see what he is selling on this tour? Condoms and refrigerator magnets! You can get a midnight snack and grab a spare condom off the fridge before going back to bed. And for the more adventurous, you can keep your hat (beenie) on.

> Everybody needs to be respected.

Yes, that's why only 2% of our society gets it.

> No I am not.

> Well, you wouldn't believe me anyway.

True. It's what happens when you live in the "arse of the world"

> Sometimes not even I believe in it.

Yeah, just look at how society is set up...well, I don't know about yours so i can't say anything.

> Hehehehe. Ok. And I am the most important brazilian person here.

We always need representatives

> I just don't know how to answer you.

Yes, so would you shun me? I mean, if you think about it on the hierarchy, you respect what Morrissey does more than what I do. That would mean that you would have ignore everything you have learned about me and trust whatever he thought.

> He can for sure.

> Unfortunately you may be sure I can't.

That's a good thing.

 

[Pappy]

Suzanne's Computer

Let me stroke. I won't poke it. Not til after we smoke it.

 

[Fabricio]

Re: my computer: the P.O.S. 2000

> Isn't it fun? Reminscent of Aldous Huxley's book about people
> being genetically engineered....

> Yes, it is very easy to pinpoint the Matrix's influences.

Do you think the future will be this way?

I really doubt it.

> I have to be. Reality is not cool, but it exists.

In reality do you think you are really far from me?

I disagree.

> I'm subjected to Extra and Sally during lunch. Speaking of 1984,
> the breakroom only gets 2 channels....both that broadcast out of
> my building.

I didn't see the film and I didn't read the book. Anyway I can discuss it with lots of superficiality.

And Seinfeld is really the best. I like Dawson's Creek and Party of Five and Files X too.

> Ah.

> perhaps, but which ones?

I really felt you very attached to our Mozza. I didn't expect that.

All your bitter opinions about Morrissey is because you expect too much from him?

> Maybe if he started acting like one, he will be treated like
> one! :^)

But here resides the real value of knowing he is normal: it's not easy. So you'll find the glass hidden in the grass.

> Did you see what he is selling on this tour? Condoms and
> refrigerator magnets! You can get a midnight snack and grab a
> spare condom off the fridge before going back to bed. And for
> the more adventurous, you can keep your hat (beenie) on.

hehehehe. This is exciting.

> Yes, that's why only 2% of our society gets it.

No, there are The Human Rights Declaration.

> True. It's what happens when you live in the "arse of the
> world"

There's a joke here that says that "Curitiba" is a name that came from indians. The joke says that in indian language "ritiba" means "of the world". And "Cu", in portuguese as in french, means "ass"...

So this is the meaning of this song. It's me speaking.

> Yeah, just look at how society is set up...well, I don't know
> about yours so i can't say anything.

I am a little bit lost here...

> We always need representatives

Oh thank you.

> Yes, so would you shun me? I mean, if you think about it on the
> hierarchy, you respect what Morrissey does more than what I do.
> That would mean that you would have ignore everything you have
> learned about me and trust whatever he thought.

I always trust in him... and I never ignore anything about you.

> That's a good thing.

Perhaps for you.

Not for me for sure.

 

[suzanne]

amil

> Do you think the future will be this way?

This is what would have to happen:

First, we would have to create Artificial Intelligence.
Then, we have to get into a war with the computers.
They would have to be solar powered and we would have to scorch the sky to try and kill them.

We would have to fail.
The computers would then have to be smart enough to figure out humans are a good source of energy.
They have to create a virtual reality program that can be compatible with the human brain.
They would have to round us up and stick us in the machines.

I can envision this day happening.

> I really doubt it.

> In reality do you think you are really far from me?

oh yes.

> I disagree.

> I didn't see the film and I didn't read the book. Anyway I can
> discuss it with lots of superficiality.

that's how i discuss everything.

> And Seinfeld is really the best. I like Dawson's Creek and Party
> of Five and Files X too.

The last one yes, the others, no.

I like TV on one level: it is entertaining in many respects. I hate TV on another level: I can't stand sitting still enough to watch it for hours on end like I used to.

I remember the good old days when I really didn't have a life and there was absolutely nowhere to go and nothing to do and all I had was cable.

> I really felt you very attached to our Mozza. I didn't expect
> that.

what on earth do you think i come here for?

> All your bitter opinions about Morrissey is because you expect
> too much from him?

no, not at all. we all function on what we are given.

people like him expect too much out of everyone else, however.

> But here resides the real value of knowing he is normal: it's
> not easy. So you'll find the glass hidden in the grass.

the sad thing is, for many years when people were pummeling him for being "too this" or "too that" that I was the one sticking up for him as his rights of a human being. where did that message get lost in the transit? Ah, people all too easily forget that stuff when it's no longer to their advantage.

and if you think he is "normal" then why do you hold his opinions so highly above everyone else's and don't consider them to be wrong sometimes? the part of his normalcy you have completely missed is his ability to be wrong.

> hehehehe. This is exciting.

> No, there are The Human Rights Declaration.

i'm talking about respect in terms of personal importance.

> There's a joke here that says that "Curitiba" is a
> name that came from indians. The joke says that in indian
> language "ritiba" means "of the world". And
> "Cu", in portuguese as in french, means
> "ass"...

> So this is the meaning of this song. It's me speaking.

heh...well, at least Morrissey has a future zip code.

> I am a little bit lost here...

> Oh thank you.

> I always trust in him... and I never ignore anything about you.

trust in god
trust in moz

> Perhaps for you.

> Not for me for sure.

 

[Fabricio]

Re: amil

> This is what would have to happen:

> First, we would have to create Artificial Intelligence.
> Then, we have to get into a war with the computers.
> They would have to be solar powered and we would have to scorch
> the sky to try and kill them.

> We would have to fail.
> The computers would then have to be smart enough to figure out
> humans are a good source of energy.
> They have to create a virtual reality program that can be
> compatible with the human brain.
> They would have to round us up and stick us in the machines.

> I can envision this day happening.

Computers have no soul.

Anyway we won't see this happening...

> oh yes.

But why?

> that's how i discuss everything.

This a really good thing to do.

> The last one yes, the others, no.

> I like TV on one level: it is entertaining in many respects. I
> hate TV on another level: I can't stand sitting still enough to
> watch it for hours on end like I used to.

> I remember the good old days when I really didn't have a life
> and there was absolutely nowhere to go and nothing to do and all
> I had was cable.

When I didn't have a life I swam a lot and I read books.

There's more in life than books, you know.

But not much more.

That's why I try to read 7 or 8 pages of my books everyday.

When somebody like me have two jobs and have to see Seinfeld everyday and have Coritiba matches to see and have a beautiful daughter 7 pages everyday is too much.

But is a very enjoyable part of my life.

> what on earth do you think i come here for?

Ok, everybody knows you are a Morrissey Web slave, as I try to be.

Anyway what you wrote was really moving and sincere.

I liked it vey much.

> no, not at all. we all function on what we are given.

> people like him expect too much out of everyone else, however.

> the sad thing is, for many years when people were pummeling him
> for being "too this" or "too that" that I
> was the one sticking up for him as his rights of a human being.
> where did that message get lost in the transit? Ah, people all
> too easily forget that stuff when it's no longer to their
> advantage.

Sometimes I talk about his right to be rich for example. He gave us so many things (and I know you agree with me). I think he has right to some kind of reward. As a good human being.

> and if you think he is "normal" then why do you hold
> his opinions so highly above everyone else's and don't consider
> them to be wrong sometimes? the part of his normalcy you have
> completely missed is his ability to be wrong.

I thought about it sometimes... But I really don't know where he was (or is) really wrong. I always think that even when he seems truculent he wants to show some important hidden message.

Sometimes I catch his messages sometimes not.

It's weird but it's true.

I seem to be immature here... that's because i am.

> i'm talking about respect in terms of personal importance.

I don't know.

I try to be gentle and kind.

Sometimes I make horribles mistakes, but I try to make my part.

If others don't do it it's not my fault.

> heh...well, at least Morrissey has a future zip code.

Not necessarily.

He sang in the 3rd person this song!!!

> trust in god
> trust in moz

I try to.

 

[suzanne]

Re: amil

> Computers have no soul.

> Anyway we won't see this happening...

heh...what happened to our flying cars and moon colonies?

> But why?

> This a really good thing to do.

> When I didn't have a life I swam a lot and I read books.

> There's more in life than books, you know.

> But not much more.

I did that a bit, but you can't read for 18 hours straight. Especially with my eyes.

> That's why I try to read 7 or 8 pages of my books everyday.

I read very slowly. I've never known how these people read 200 pages in one setting do it.

and i don't have a pool.

> When somebody like me have two jobs and have to see Seinfeld
> everyday and have Coritiba matches to see and have a beautiful
> daughter 7 pages everyday is too much.

> But is a very enjoyable part of my life.

> Ok, everybody knows you are a Morrissey Web slave, as I try to
> be.

Do you really want that job? There is no job description for starters....

> Anyway what you wrote was really moving and sincere.

I thought it was sarcastic.

> I liked it vey much.

ok, since you like them so much, here is another:

hey morrissey, if you skip Brazil, then you are a do do head. look at poor fabricio and his two jobs and you not knowing if you should roll out of bed in the morning to play some tennis or go to a movie. we realize that since you lived at home into your mid twenties without any work record to your name beyond fan club president that you can;t identify with what the real world is like, but here he is, your wednesday's child if you will. hey, also, when am i going to sleep with you as you promised? through the psychic brainwaves that come through my computer monitor? I'm sorry if I was distracted and didn't figure them out when you wanted me to. A rerun of the X-Files was on at the time. You have to remember not to contact me during the hour of 9pm Eastern/8pm Central standard time.

If I can't have that, can you at least send a bagel you took a bite out of?

> Sometimes I talk about his right to be rich for example. He gave
> us so many things (and I know you agree with me). I think he has
> right to some kind of reward. As a good human being.

Think about all the good humans who go without anything. Like food, for example. I know they haven't written a cool album about it, but they exist.

> I thought about it sometimes... But I really don't know where he
> was (or is) really wrong. I always think that even when he seems
> truculent he wants to show some important hidden message.

> Sometimes I catch his messages sometimes not.

you and me both....sometimes, i make some up. sometimes, i just get them plain wrong. sometimes it takes months, and sometimes it takes years.

> It's weird but it's true.

> I seem to be immature here... that's because i am.

hell, i'll give ya a bit of room for that. immaturity, i mean. being a responsible adult sucks ass.

> I don't know.

> I try to be gentle and kind.

> Sometimes I make horribles mistakes, but I try to make my part.

> If others don't do it it's not my fault.

> Not necessarily.

> He sang in the 3rd person this song!!!

Morrissey always sings in the first person. No matter if it's the 3rd person with the occasional "he"

> I try to.

You must not try, you must BE.

 

[Fabricio]

February 3 is Fabricio's birthday

> heh...what happened to our flying cars and moon colonies?

I am almost sure they'll come before your computers with personality.

> I did that a bit, but you can't read for 18 hours straight.
> Especially with my eyes.

Sorry for asking it, but what do you have at your eyes?

> I read very slowly. I've never known how these people read 200
> pages in one setting do it.

I did it some few times. It's more tiresome than a swimming competition.

> and i don't have a pool.

I used to compete in my college. I was an obsessive swimmer.

> Do you really want that job? There is no job description for
> starters....

Why don't you make a rule or two?

> I thought it was sarcastic.

No, it wasn't. You said so many things you did to our Mozza. It had to be sincere, even if it was a little bitter.

> ok, since you like them so much, here is another:

Oh thank you.

> hey morrissey, if you skip Brazil, then you are a do do head.
> look at poor fabricio and his two jobs and you not knowing if
> you should roll out of bed in the morning to play some tennis or
> go to a movie.

Oh please don't look at me Morrissey, I don't deserve it. I'm not good in english anyway.

>we realize that since you lived at home into your
> mid twenties without any work record to your name beyond fan
> club president that you can;t identify with what the real world
> is like, but here he is, your wednesday's child if you will.

I am Morrissey's wednesday's child?

> hey, also, when am i going to sleep with you as you promised?
> through the psychic brainwaves that come through my computer
> monitor?

Finally I understood why you want a computer with a human brain!!!

>I'm sorry if I was distracted and didn't figure them
> out when you wanted me to. A rerun of the X-Files was on at the
> time. You have to remember not to contact me during the hour of
> 9pm Eastern/8pm Central standard time.

> If I can't have that, can you at least send a bagel you took a
> bite out of?

Well, here you were sarcastic...

> Think about all the good humans who go without anything. Like
> food, for example. I know they haven't written a cool album
> about it, but they exist.

Oh for sure. But it was about this we were talking about?

> you and me both....sometimes, i make some up. sometimes, i just
> get them plain wrong. sometimes it takes months, and sometimes
> it takes years.

"You and me both...".

Nice phrase...

> hell, i'll give ya a bit of room for that. immaturity, i mean.
> being a responsible adult sucks ass.

It's very very tiresome...

> Morrissey always sings in the first person. No matter if it's
> the 3rd person with the occasional "he"

No, even whe he uses "I" he may speaking about another person's sentiments.

> You must not try, you must BE.

You are completely correct.