Are Morrissey fans afflicted with depression more so than in the population at large?

[Belligerent Ghoul]

I think many of us are. And of course there are those that are not. You will find some very candid admissions regarding depression in Chat and in the Journals. And whether it is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain (something they still cannot measure) or "poetic instinct" or both...I do believe this is true. And I agree with what Morrissey has said below.

Do you agree that Moz fans are generally more melancholy than ordinary boys & ordinary girls? Do you disagree? Is feeling blue something that most of you have grown out of as you have plunged into adulthood and moved away from your youth? Please explain your reasoning.

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MOZ FROM THE RECENT GUARDIAN

"I was diagnosed with depression before they knew what gender I was," he quips. "I was only depressed because I had a very poetic instinct about things and I didn't want to walk in a pack. That's very frustrating when your prospects are minus zero. So I'm not going to be running around laughing hysterically, am I?"

He took antidepressants when he was 17 in order to help him sleep, and he has had therapy intermittently since then, but he is almost proud of his black moods. "I think if you're remotely intelligent you can't help being depressed. It's a positive thing to be. It means that you're not a crashing bore. I mean, you don't get support groups for rugby players, do you?"

 

[Harsh Truth]

Speaking for myself, I am probably the most upbeat, carefree, positive person you'll ever meet. I am also an over-obsessed Morrissey fan.

On the other hand, I have several friends who are are regular medication and/or in therapy for depression. These people, by and large, are not Morrissey fans.

> I think many of us are. And of course there are those that are not. You
> will find some very candid admissions regarding depression in Chat and in
> the Journals. And whether it is caused by a chemical imbalance in the
> brain (something they still cannot measure) or "poetic instinct"
> or both...I do believe this is true. And I agree with what Morrissey has
> said below.

> Do you agree that Moz fans are generally more melancholy than ordinary
> boys & ordinary girls? Do you disagree? Is feeling blue something that
> most of you have grown out of as you have plunged into adulthood and moved
> away from your youth? Please explain your reasoning.

> -------------------

> MOZ FROM THE RECENT GUARDIAN

> "I was diagnosed with depression before they knew what gender I
> was," he quips. "I was only depressed because I had a very
> poetic instinct about things and I didn't want to walk in a pack. That's
> very frustrating when your prospects are minus zero. So I'm not going to
> be running around laughing hysterically, am I?"

> He took antidepressants when he was 17 in order to help him sleep, and he
> has had therapy intermittently since then, but he is almost proud of his
> black moods. "I think if you're remotely intelligent you can't help
> being depressed. It's a positive thing to be. It means that you're not a
> crashing bore. I mean, you don't get support groups for rugby players, do
> you?"

 

[Belligerent Ghoul]

That made no sense whatsoever. What would taking meds have to do with being or not being a Moz fan? Are you saying they fake their interest in Moz because it ties in with their depression and is a natural fit?

I have been a fan since Viva Hate, long before I suffered from any kind of mood disorder or took any antidepressants.

 

[lazy sunbather]

I agree to a certain extent. I mean I talk to more Moz fans who are depressed than the lads & lasses that hang out at the pub who seem quite happy. I think this - er - poetic instinct he speaks of means that people like Moz tend to be more sensitive...they feel more and so they would feel life's heartaches at a heightened level, if you will.

> "I think if you're remotely intelligent you can't help
> being depressed. It's a positive thing to be. It means that you're not a
> crashing bore.

I like those lines.

 

[Just kidding!]

no worries Ghoul: Harsh Truth's favourite song is "You're The One For Me Fatty"

 

[Harsh Truth]

I think you need to re-read my post, BG.

 

[retiring52504]

> Is feeling blue something that
> most of you have grown out of as you have plunged into adulthood and moved
> away from your youth? Please explain your reasoning.
> -------------------

I am ecstatic. My life has been full of tragedy, but ultimately I've had a wonderful private personal life and a very fulfilling public career. I've done things and been places I could never have dreamed of. This the end of one phase of my life and the beginning of another. I've never been to Australia or Japan, and I want to go back to Italy and spend more time in Venice.

At one point in my life I was depressed, suicidial, even self destructive. In those days there was no label, but I buried myself in my profession and became one person in my private life and another in my public life. You can't just go around being positive in the day, and sink into the darkest negativity and despair at night. The meshing of the two became my salvation. I survived and found myself (and learned to like myself inspite of the scars and warts).

 

[Siouxsie]

Re: I think you need to explain it better.

 

[Hugh]

Oh just f*** off!

 

[gallup, new mexico]

touchy today, are we poo bear?

> Oh just f*** off!

 

[Kali]

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[OH I SAY]

I've thought about this recently. It's safe to bet that most of us were 'outsiders' at one point in our lives. Crap childhoods, confused adolescents, targeted, ridiculed, distant parents, the list goes on.
You get the drift.
I've been on other fan sites and this one is unique, you don't see the obsessive sometimes psychotic depressed behavior, okay maybe The Cure but those fans don't count, they don't read books and for the most part are a breed apart.
*ducks for cover*
We have to share some common quality and depression may be it, past or present.
In any case we should embrace it and each other.
*and i'm welcome no more*

> I think many of us are. And of course there are those that are not. You
> will find some very candid admissions regarding depression in Chat and in
> the Journals. And whether it is caused by a chemical imbalance in the
> brain (something they still cannot measure) or "poetic instinct"
> or both...I do believe this is true. And I agree with what Morrissey has
> said below.

> Do you agree that Moz fans are generally more melancholy than ordinary
> boys & ordinary girls? Do you disagree? Is feeling blue something that
> most of you have grown out of as you have plunged into adulthood and moved
> away from your youth? Please explain your reasoning.

> -------------------

> MOZ FROM THE RECENT GUARDIAN

> "I was diagnosed with depression before they knew what gender I
> was," he quips. "I was only depressed because I had a very
> poetic instinct about things and I didn't want to walk in a pack. That's
> very frustrating when your prospects are minus zero. So I'm not going to
> be running around laughing hysterically, am I?"

> He took antidepressants when he was 17 in order to help him sleep, and he
> has had therapy intermittently since then, but he is almost proud of his
> black moods. "I think if you're remotely intelligent you can't help
> being depressed. It's a positive thing to be. It means that you're not a
> crashing bore. I mean, you don't get support groups for rugby players, do
> you?"

 

[Belligerent Ghoul]

OK, no mocking. Thanks for your candor & for sharing your experiences with us.

 

[Svetlana]

that was beautifully worded, thank you

 

[Kali]

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[Belligerent Ghoul]

Your primary opponent seems to be "just looking" and I am not posting as that person. I am surfing the web, coming & going, and not paying much attention to the those debates. Though it would be nice to know when the Kilborn shows with special guest: MORRISSEY are happening.

 

['Radar' O'Reilly]

No I don't agree with that statement, although I've had to put up with varying levels of depression for many years - too much acid and speed as well as chronic shyness (although not in conjunction with eachother) does that to a person ya know.

> I think many of us are. And of course there are those that are not. You
> will find some very candid admissions regarding depression in Chat and in
> the Journals. And whether it is caused by a chemical imbalance in the
> brain (something they still cannot measure) or "poetic instinct"
> or both...I do believe this is true. And I agree with what Morrissey has
> said below.

> Do you agree that Moz fans are generally more melancholy than ordinary
> boys & ordinary girls? Do you disagree? Is feeling blue something that
> most of you have grown out of as you have plunged into adulthood and moved
> away from your youth? Please explain your reasoning.

> -------------------

> MOZ FROM THE RECENT GUARDIAN

> "I was diagnosed with depression before they knew what gender I
> was," he quips. "I was only depressed because I had a very
> poetic instinct about things and I didn't want to walk in a pack. That's
> very frustrating when your prospects are minus zero. So I'm not going to
> be running around laughing hysterically, am I?"

> He took antidepressants when he was 17 in order to help him sleep, and he
> has had therapy intermittently since then, but he is almost proud of his
> black moods. "I think if you're remotely intelligent you can't help
> being depressed. It's a positive thing to be. It means that you're not a
> crashing bore. I mean, you don't get support groups for rugby players, do
> you?"

 

[i wonder]

a possible change

BG - that was a good comment you posted fr a change - keep it up! - but dont feel the need to be sarastic when you disagree with someone. i used to hate you. but maybe yu could nice for a change. i agree with your post fully.

p.s i am being sincere.

peace

 

[site observer]

Re: a possible change

> BG - that was a good comment you posted fr a change - keep it up! - but
> dont feel the need to be sarastic when you disagree with someone. i used
> to hate you. but maybe yu could nice for a change. i agree with your post
> fully.

> p.s i am being sincere.

> peace

kali, who promised not to post again, ahem

 

[caroline]

ooh, that's a good one. i was talking to a fellow smiths fan and he wondered if he really was depressed, or the music he listened to during his adolescence made him depressed. i'd venture a no.