IBEH - Lame?

[Dagenham Dave]

It's this worry I'm having. Nagging, annoying, feeling. And I know that I will probably love Quarry. But I can't help thinking that when you compare IBEH - which seems a bit phoney..a bit staged..a bit produced.. with something very early like Handsome Devil, Jeane, etc... well the early stuff is lively. There is an injection of brilliant truth, SPONTANEOUS truth. They sound fresh, even twenty one years on.

But IBEH doesn't have any of this. I get the feeling that if Morrissey was a complete unknown; then the single would not enter the top 200, even on Attack. It just doesn't, for me, stand out enough. Don't get me wrong...I do like it. But I feel that he needs something so vivacous and so sexual..like Handsome Devil..right now.

Console Me.

[helllo]

> It's this worry I'm having. Nagging, annoying, feeling. And I know that I
> will probably love Quarry. But I can't help thinking that when you compare
> IBEH - which seems a bit phoney..a bit staged..a bit produced.. with
> something very early like Handsome Devil, Jeane, etc... well the early
> stuff is lively. There is an injection of brilliant truth, SPONTANEOUS
> truth. They sound fresh, even twenty one years on.

> But IBEH doesn't have any of this. I get the feeling that if Morrissey was
> a complete unknown; then the single would not enter the top 200, even on
> Attack. It just doesn't, for me, stand out enough. Don't get me wrong...I
> do like it. But I feel that he needs something so vivacous and so
> sexual..like Handsome Devil..right now.

> Console Me.

it will hit top ten uk, maybe top 60 usa
we need people to buy it and not download it
ive downloaded loads of stuff, proclaimers, janes
addiction etc, but would not dream of anything but
buying EVERYTHING that moz puts out, i even bought
the smiths albums on lp, cassette and cd, my only
true hero,

oh dear, im a chat skank

[Dagenham Dave]

> it will hit top ten uk, maybe top 60 usa
> we need people to buy it and not download it
> ive downloaded loads of stuff, proclaimers, janes
> addiction etc, but would not dream of anything but
> buying EVERYTHING that moz puts out, i even bought
> the smiths albums on lp, cassette and cd, my only
> true hero,

> oh dear, im a chat skank

Yes I know it will get top ten, but that's because of his fame already. What if he was unknown...how would it do then? Not as well as Hand in Glove did back in 1983, I'm pretty sure of that.

[Baz]

> Yes I know it will get top ten, but that's because of his fame already.
> What if he was unknown...how would it do then? Not as well as Hand in
> Glove did back in 1983, I'm pretty sure of that.

Yeah, but Hand In Glove didn't even chart, so it didn't do too well in a commercial sense. I think IBEH is a very good single, stronger than anything he's released since Hold Onto Your Friends, and to think that is ten years old now!

[Mr.Improper PIMP of the fuckin nation and proud to be such!!!!!!!]

[Uncleskinny]

It's Irish Blood English Heart. And a top-notch choice for the single IMHO.

Sk.

[Mr.Improper PIMP of the fuckin nation and proud to be such!!!!!!!]

Oh...agreed..thanks!!!!

[i like you]

[Mr.Improper PIMP of the fuckin nation and proud to be such!!!!!!!]

Thanks,I havent changed...just giving thanks when and where its needed. I thank you for the ncie words though. i cant always be a dick you know?????

[Mr.Improper PIMP of the fuckin nation and proud to be such!!!!!!!]

Still the same PIMP of the fuckin nation....just giving thanks when needed. I will never change.........Ill always stay the same!!!!!!!

[Ruffian]

> It's this worry I'm having. Nagging, annoying, feeling. And I know that I
> will probably love Quarry. But I can't help thinking that when you compare
> IBEH - which seems a bit phoney..a bit staged..a bit produced.. with
> something very early like Handsome Devil, Jeane, etc... well the early
> stuff is lively. There is an injection of brilliant truth, SPONTANEOUS
> truth. They sound fresh, even twenty one years on.

> But IBEH doesn't have any of this. I get the feeling that if Morrissey was
> a complete unknown; then the single would not enter the top 200, even on
> Attack. It just doesn't, for me, stand out enough. Don't get me wrong...I
> do like it. But I feel that he needs something so vivacous and so
> sexual..like Handsome Devil..right now.

> Console Me.

Sir, you compare a handful of Smiths Classics with modern day Morrissey work. With respect, there is no comparison. But in defence of IBEH, for Morrissey Solo work, it's genuinely a good, exciting riff roaring, and pretty powerful song. A great mosh classic, stage managed or not,
Regards,
Ruffian

[Patrick McCann]

Aw shucks, it was nothing.

[Let's Go Devils and Celtic]

> Aw shucks, it was nothing.
Normally I would be worried,(not responding to your TV in the guest bedroom question, whats that about?), but its March madness, the playoffs are about 3 weeks away, oh and something about Morrissey coming out with a CD so that must be it.

[mrshoes]

I am afraid to say that I too have the same sentiments. I fear the song is not great, but just good.

In my opinion, there must be better choices for the first single of the album.

mrshoes

> It's this worry I'm having. Nagging, annoying, feeling. And I know that I
> will probably love Quarry. But I can't help thinking that when you compare
> IBEH - which seems a bit phoney..a bit staged..a bit produced.. with
> something very early like Handsome Devil, Jeane, etc... well the early
> stuff is lively. There is an injection of brilliant truth, SPONTANEOUS
> truth. They sound fresh, even twenty one years on.

> But IBEH doesn't have any of this. I get the feeling that if Morrissey was
> a complete unknown; then the single would not enter the top 200, even on
> Attack. It just doesn't, for me, stand out enough. Don't get me wrong...I
> do like it. But I feel that he needs something so vivacous and so
> sexual..like Handsome Devil..right now.

> Console Me.

[Patrick McCann]

> Normally I would be worried,(not responding to your TV in the guest
> bedroom question, whats that about?), but its March madness, the playoffs
> are about 3 weeks away, oh and something about Morrissey coming out with a
> CD so that must be it.

Ach, I'm not too bothered about the telly now, M. As long as the jacuzzi's working - I'll be happy with that.

[Unceskinny]

> I am afraid to say that I too have the same sentiments. I fear the song is
> not great, but just good.

> In my opinion, there must be better choices for the first single of the
> album.

> mrshoes

Yowsa. After legal advice, we played the studio version of IBEH tonight on BCB (www.bcb.yorks.com). Nice!

Sk.

[Let's Go Devils and Celtic]

> Ach, I'm not too bothered about the telly now, M. As long as the jacuzzi's
> working - I'll be happy with that.
Don't worry. Proper assured me its working! AHHHH, I just love it when everyone gets along! Will your Noni be joining you?

[Patrick McCann]

> Don't worry. Proper assured me its working! AHHHH, I just love it when
> everyone gets along! Will your Noni be joining you?

*cough!!* *gasp!!* *splutter!!* God, no!!
She'll be staying at home cooking and cleaning and looking after the eleven kids.

[Let's Go Devils and Celtic]

> *cough!!* *gasp!!* *splutter!!* God, no!!
> She'll be staying at home cooking and cleaning and looking after the
> eleven kids.
11 kids!!!? OHMYGOSH Patrick, your the man!

[Patrick McCann]

> 11 kids!!!? OHMYGOSH Patrick, your the man!

Yup. One every nine months. Regular as clockwork.