Case Closed. Please apologize for calling Morrissey deformed in that pic.

[LoafingOaf]

Morrissey in City Life:

>>>>
Q: Does that mean you'll finally be playing a show here before long?

A: "I haven't played Manchester for 11 years, which seems a bit ridiculous. I had an offer last week for the MEN arena, which I think holds about 15,000. I'd love to do it."
>
Registrant:
Sanctuary Records Group
ATTN: MORRISSEYMUSIC.COM
c/o Network Solutions
P.O. Box 447
Herndon, VA. 20172-0447

Domain Name: MORRISSEYMUSIC.COM

Administrative Contact:
Spielberger, Adam ac8fd82x8xd@networksolutionsprivateregistration.co m
>
Artemis Records Staff List

Adam Spielberger Director, Internet Marketing

[Chill]

> Morrissey in City Life:
> Q: Does that mean you'll finally be playing a show here before long?

> A: "I haven't played Manchester for 11 years, which seems a bit
> ridiculous. I had an offer last week for the MEN arena, which I think
> holds about 15,000. I'd love to do it."
> WHOIS morrisseymusic.com:
> Registrant:
> Sanctuary Records Group
> ATTN: MORRISSEYMUSIC.COM
> c/o Network Solutions
> P.O. Box 447
> Herndon, VA. 20172-0447

> Domain Name: MORRISSEYMUSIC.COM

> Administrative Contact:
> Spielberger, Adam ac8fd82x8xd@networksolutionsprivateregistration.co m
> http://64.224.184.111/info.html Artemis Records Staff List

> Adam Spielberger Director, Internet Marketing
>

Interesting..BUT has it occurred to you that the hoaxer may have used that interview as inspiration. Furthermore, the person who is most commonly being accused of perpetrating the hoax (if it is one) often brags of his "ties" (and IM sessions) with Sanctuary insiders...

[LoafingOaf]

It's scary how fast you can find everyone's personal details.

Here's his pic:
http://www.southampton.liu.edu/intern/gallery/7.html

And address/phone #:

Adam Spielberger 160 East 84th Street, Apt. 8H · New York, NY 10028 ·
(212) 772-2565(h) · (917) 604-9651 (c) adam@spielberger.com

I won't be rude enough to call him to criticize the typos on the web site. = )

[LoafingOaf]

> Interesting..BUT has it occurred to you that the hoaxer may have used that
> interview as inspiration. Furthermore, the person who is most commonly
> being accused of perpetrating the hoax (if it is one) often brags of his
> "ties" (and IM sessions) with Sanctuary insiders...

Doh!

I just emailed Adam Spielberger. hahahaha

I think it's real, Mindy. I think we get to enjoy watching this dude construct the web site as we watch.

For example, I don't see the Attack logo. Was it up and then taken down right away?

[Chill]

> Doh!

> I just emailed Adam Spielberger. hahahaha

> I think it's real, Mindy. I think we get to enjoy watching this dude
> construct the web site as we watch.

> For example, I don't see the Attack logo. Was it up and then taken down
> right away?

I just refreshed the site and it's still there! But I should say that I've heard from a big nose who knows that this Gigs company is rather shady although that doesn't mean there will be no show.

Also, I posted this further down the page, but your AOL account is too small to accomodate my mp3. What shall we do?

[5 Crowns]

You just made a "veiled" reference to BG, and accused him of perpetrating a hoax on the world that follows Morrissey. You did this even after he has denied doing so. I don't see him up in arms over it.

Hypocrite.

[Chill]

> You just made a "veiled" reference to BG, and accused him of
> perpetrating a hoax on the world that follows Morrissey. You did this even
> after he has denied doing so. I don't see him up in arms over it.

> Hypocrite.

Gee, that wouldn't be you, BG, would it? I didn't accuse him of anything. I was merely stating a fact. He has indeed been accused of being the hoaxer. And he has indeed bragged of being friends with at least two persons at Sanctuary. I never said he did it, did I? I was merely stating a possibility I didn't know if Oaf had yet considered.

Besides, at least the stuff he accused me of I was able to prove false. And even if he denies it, that doesn't mean much to me. I'm not saying he did it. The site may be real. It may be fake, but he may not be the faker. But his denials mean nothing to me. He has lied to me numerous times and has either finally admitted it or not even bothered as it was so obvious he'd been found out. Sorry, as LGD said last time this shit happened, "Fool me once, shame on you..."

[LoafingOaf]

> I just refreshed the site and it's still there! But I should say that I've
> heard from a big nose who knows that this Gigs company is rather shady
> although that doesn't mean there will be no show.

I see it now! Cool! Hmm, we should tell him to touch up that "E" huh?
I wouldn't have noticed it on my own, but now it bugs me. ">

> Also, I posted this further down the page, but your AOL account is too
> small to accomodate my mp3. What shall we do?

Is that because I'm on AOL??? Damn.

I'll email you a different email address. I don't know if it'll work there either though. And you have to keep that one strictly confidential so it doesn't...you know...fall into the hands of the mentally ill around here. = )

If that doesn't work...are the songs on the album? Their album is next on my list, so I'll be hearingit soon anyway. Downloading a file that large can take forever because I'm dial-up. But yeah, I'll email you before I go to sleep. = )

[Chill]

> I see it now! Cool! Hmm, we should tell him to touch up that "E"
> huh?
> I wouldn't have noticed it on my own, but now it bugs me. ">

Same here. Girl Drowning and Uncle Skinny must have the eyes of eagles! I'm impressed. And yeah, now that I finally see it, it's irritating to me as well.

> Is that because I'm on AOL??? Damn.

> I'll email you a different email address. I don't know if it'll work there
> either though. And you have to keep that one strictly confidential so it
> doesn't...you know...fall into the hands of the mentally ill around here.
> = )

No prob. If you have MSN, I could try to send a file transfer over that. My friend in Germany has horrible net access and it took me about five minutes to send him a song once over that. (Wow, I sound like quite the little music pirate, but it was actually just an mp3 of me singing badly. LOL.)

> If that doesn't work...are the songs on the album? Their album is next on
> my list, so I'll be hearingit soon anyway. Downloading a file that large
> can take forever because I'm dial-up. But yeah, I'll email you before I go
> to sleep. = )

The songs are indeed from the album, so if this doesn't work and you're gonna buy it anyway, no harm no foul.

[5 Crowns]

You proved nothing to anyone. What you think you proved is all in your own mind. I did not see this wave of people saying "oh yes we see the light, you were right, BG was wrong." You are a compulsive liar. You just accused BG of a violating the law again. This time fraud/tort. If I was him, and you threatened legal process against me, I would not take kindly to it. You cannot go around accusing people of breaching the law Mindy without consequences to yourself.

[Chill]

> You proved nothing to anyone. What you think you proved is all in your own
> mind. I did not see this wave of people saying "oh yes we see the
> light, you were right, BG was wrong." You are a compulsive liar. You
> just accused BG of a violating the law again. This time fraud/tort. If I
> was him, and you threatened legal process against me, I would not take
> kindly to it. You cannot go around accusing people of breaching the law
> Mindy without consequences to yourself.

I didn't accuse BG of anything. Show me where I said he did it. So I'm a compulsive liar now? Didn't BG say in that apology post to LGD something about how, while he thinks I may exaggerate things to make myself look better, I don't outright lie?

And I did prove he lied when he was incorrect when he accused me of buying $250 worth of CDs. That's all I was referring to. This time.

Where did I threaten legal process against him with regards to the new Moz site? Or are you referring to the police report I filed? Hey, the cops seem to think it's pretty legit. So you can take that up with them. And he claims to have filed one against me first although I can't imagine what it would include since I have never harassed him via phone, email, or IM (and he has, by the way, made false accusations to the effect that he believes I have telephoned him, which makes no sense whatsoever as I have no idea who he or where he lives, a fact he has gloated over -- which is it? He can't have it both ways. He's either anonymous or he isn't). Perhaps if replying to posts and arguing counted as criminal harassment, his dossier may have some content. But last time I checked I never said or did anything illegal via this messageboard whereas he has made more than a few death threats and groundless accusations against me and has tried to intimidate me by threatening to interfere in my real life (which is the main reason I went to the police). So yeah, if you want to talk about people blatantly making false accusations, you need to talk to BG (or look in a mirror).

[Mindy is Fat]

Look you lying fat bitch, you implied that BG created the site that might be a hoax, making reference to his comments in the chat and connections he has mentioned. Can't you fucking read & comprehend your own writing?

He accused you of obsessive Instant Messaging. You admitted to it. He accused you of death threats. You admitted to it. He accused you of unwanted emails. You admitted to it. He accused you of phoning him. You admitted to it. Then you systematically deleted all those posts.

If I was BG, I would be scared for my personal safety. You are an Internet stalker. You never read Sundown Playboy's journal once or made a comment in it, until the day BG posted. We, and there are several of us looking at this screen, have surmised that you wake up every day and search for where BG has been and then tail & trail his posts. It's too bad that people like you can't be locked up before they exact physical violence on their victim/obsession.

We believe that you have every intention of murdering Belligerent Ghoul.

[Chill]

> Look you lying fat bitch, you implied that BG created the site that might
> be a hoax, making reference to his comments in the chat and connections he
> has mentioned. Can't you fucking read & comprehend your own writing?

I said it was a possibility. And until we know for sure the site is real or that it is a fake perpetrated by someone else, it remains a possibility. Again, I never made any concrete allegations.

> He accused you of obsessive Instant Messaging. You admitted to it. He
> accused you of death threats. You admitted to it. He accused you of
> unwanted emails. You admitted to it. He accused you of phoning him. You
> admitted to it. Then you systematically deleted all those posts.

When did I admit to obsessive Instand Messaging? When we were "friends," I IMed him on three or four separate occasions over the course of three days. Not obsessive. I have friends from this site with whom I chat with daily. Additionally, he never told me to not IM him at that point. In fact, he made every indication that he enjoyed speaking with me, right down to saying so. If he thought I was being obsessive, he never said so. Had he done so, I would have gladly left him alone. I thought I was just being friendly. After that, I IMed him perhaps two or three more times. I believe the first time was to discuss some nasty things he'd said about me on the board. The other two times were to hash out an argument in private as opposed to on the board. I have not IMed him since we agreed not to IM each other again. I never admitted to unwanted emails. I emailed him something like four times. The first time was while we were on friendly terms. The second time was to inquire about a nasty remark he'd made about me when I thought we were still on friendly terms. The last two times were in response to emails he sent me a couple months ago. Both were polite. The phoning thing is a flat-out lie. To you BG's favorite word, you are incorrigible. He is the one who systematically deletes posts. I have never deleted anything incriminating because I have never posted anything incriminating. I've deleted posts from long, argumentative threads that occurred back when he was Penelope (i.e., long before the phone call accusations were made). I also deleted a post he asked me to delete in which I asked him why he was posting nasty things about me. He denied having done so and I gave him the benefit of the doubt and erased the post so as to not embarrass him. My mistake. (The only other time I really delete posts is when I realize I made a typo as soon as I posted it and I delete it before anyone can reply. I then repost a corrected version.)

If I had telephoned him, I seriously think the cops would have come knocking on my door. To my knowledge, he's the only one on this site who makes harassing phone calls. Shall we ask David T. about that? Additionally, David T. told me that BG has left ten minute long messages on his machine in which he has accused me of having called him. David T. told me not to worry, however, because he doesn't believe a word BG says. Even ask him.

> If I was BG, I would be scared for my personal safety. You are an Internet
> stalker. You never read Sundown Playboy's journal once or made a comment
> in it, until the day BG posted. We, and there are several of us looking at
> this screen, have surmised that you wake up every day and search for where
> BG has been and then tail & trail his posts. It's too bad that people
> like you can't be locked up before they exact physical violence on their
> victim/obsession.

I was linked to Sundown's journal by a friend from Moz-Solo who told me I might find it interesting.

> We believe that you have every intention of murdering Belligerent Ghoul.

Yes, keep making accusations like that, BG. The only death threats that have been made against you on this site were ones you made yourself and tried to pin on me.

[CrushingBore]

1. If you're worried about people excessively IM-ing you, are you familiar with the "ignore" function. If not, please contact me, and I will gladly explain its operation.

2. It was I who pointed Mindy to Sundown's journal by way of saying "look what this guy obsessively does - hounds people until they are unable to get any enjoyment out of coming to websited anymore". Definition: troll.

3. For God's sake, why make such a tool of yourself when the 'good' BG is the kind of person who is so worth having around here? Stop harassing Mindy, Sundown, DavidT, etc. Stop making shit up and blowing things out of all proportion. It's boring and it makes everyone thoroughly sick of you. Why do you want to be loathed?

4. I thought we had a deal this was going to stop? The original 'twats' post was an obvious provocation, and it's being veiled in not mentioning Mindy by name in no way makes it less so. YOU started this, after promising AGAIN to leave well enough alone.

[recap]

"Twat" is not offensive per se.