Tears for Fears reunite

Re: At leats we don't elect people who can't put a sentence together.

What they get up to after they are elected is an abuse of power. Blair is guilty of that.
But if he couldn't speak without stuttering, stalling (for ages!!), and constantly looking downwards at prepared notes he wouldn't be anywhere near the top of UK politics.
What's with all that stalling?
I go and put the kettle on, wait for it to boil, (and as you know a waited kettle never boils) , make a nice cup of tea, grab a couple of custard creams (for dunking purposes) , get back into the living-room , happy as f*** - and guess what?? Aye, there's George, giving us his half Clint Eastwood/half John Wayne squint, preparing himself for........the next three words!!!
Or maybe he waited because he knew I was making a nice cup of tea, and didn't want me to miss anything.
Aye, that must be it.
 
Re: Suzanne?? Pictures?? Vacation?? Whatchoo talkin about lgdac??!!
 
Um, um .......I think I'm late for class. Bye!
 
Re: And let that be the last word on the matter. I'm off for a pint. See yeez later.
 
Re: Another difference in US and UK Smiths fans

> I get the impression that it is more the American contingent that wish and
> wonder why The Smiths were never commercially successful. The latest poll
> on the homepage is asking opinion on reasons for this. People who ask this
> question seem to think that if a band is spankingly brilliant, they MUST
> have chart success. The reality is, this would have ruined a band like The
> Smiths.

> I'd say it is more the UK fans who glad The Smiths never became another
> REM and had overwieght 40something executives buying their CDs to listen
> to in the car. One of the great things about The Smiths is they were
> ostracized by the media and most of the chart record buying public, who
> lets face is, aren't the brightest of sparks when it comes to taste.

> The Smiths never were about being mainstream. Reams of Morrissey's lyrics
> are on themes like being an outsider. I sometimes wonder if people
> understand this when they hear songs like 'How Soon Is Now' and 'You've
> Got Everything Now'. The Smiths were, and still are too intelligent for
> the masses, and thank f*** for that.

Well now if you did that then you'd be stereotyping. I am a US citizen and NEVER wished the Smiths would be on top of the charts consumed by the masses. The Smiths belonged to me and the chosen few. Had the general public turned the Smiths into mega-stars it would have ruined it for me.

Also, just because someone is a 40-something exec does not mean they've lost it completely. As if turning 40 suddenly makes you uncool. I'm early 30-something now and have plenty of exec friends in their 40's and trust me, they may be greying a bit here and there but they'll be hipsters til the end.

So basically what I'm saying is that you're wrong. Not in a bad way though, you just didn't know any better.
 
Mr. Improper are you using a fake British accent, just what you accused others of doing?

You used the word "WANKER."
 
Last Word, My Arse

You will not continue to have the last word on every matter and I hope you understand that.

Just because you say "and let that be the last word on the matter" does not make it so. You think that you have some super powers that are beyond your means. Sometimes, you will have the last word, othertimes you won't. Just because you said that, I am telling you to:

f*** OFF ABOUT THIS LAST WORD SHITE!!

Cheers.

Hugh, London
 
And just remember P.M.

Your masses in the UK are just as dumb as our masses in the USA.
 
Right You Are, GB

I agree with you 100%. The people of the UK have always been elitist in their views, thinking that we don't understand their jokes, culture, music, literature, and references. Well, some of us do get it. And what we do not understand, we can look up, read, and educate ourselves on. For example, I know more about the Moor Murders than many people from Manchester. How did I ever do that? Oh, there are only like 20 books written on those gruesome crimes, and how many of you Subjects of The Queen, and hoplessly devoted Smiths followers, have ever bothered to read even one of them?

> Well now if you did that then you'd be stereotyping. I am a US citizen and
> NEVER wished the Smiths would be on top of the charts consumed by the
> masses. The Smiths belonged to me and the chosen few. Had the general
> public turned the Smiths into mega-stars it would have ruined it for me.

> Also, just because someone is a 40-something exec does not mean they've
> lost it completely. As if turning 40 suddenly makes you uncool. I'm early
> 30-something now and have plenty of exec friends in their 40's and trust
> me, they may be greying a bit here and there but they'll be hipsters til
> the end.

> So basically what I'm saying is that you're wrong. Not in a bad way
> though, you just didn't know any better.
 
M. Ghandi

It was not enough for you to colonize us. Now you must go and make jokes against our greatest leader, the man who emancipated us from British Rule. Perhaps, I should stop coming here, as you clearly find this funny, and I am deeply hurt.

Ah, Mahatma Ghandi. The only Indian that the British could not ignore!!
 
Re: Another difference in US and UK Smiths fans

> I get the impression that it is more the American contingent that wish and
> wonder why The Smiths were never commercially successful. The latest poll
> on the homepage is asking opinion on reasons for this. People who ask this
> question seem to think that if a band is spankingly brilliant, they MUST
> have chart success. The reality is, this would have ruined a band like The
> Smiths.

> I'd say it is more the UK fans who glad The Smiths never became another
> REM and had overwieght 40something executives buying their CDs to listen
> to in the car. One of the great things about The Smiths is they were
> ostracized by the media and most of the chart record buying public, who
> lets face is, aren't the brightest of sparks when it comes to taste.

> The Smiths never were about being mainstream. Reams of Morrissey's lyrics
> are on themes like being an outsider. I sometimes wonder if people
> understand this when they hear songs like 'How Soon Is Now' and 'You've
> Got Everything Now'. The Smiths were, and still are too intelligent for
> the masses, and thank f*** for that.

Things must be bad....I'm agreeing with Bluenose
 
Re: Another difference in US and UK Smiths fans

Guillermo, my picture posting friend, not ALL American fans wish the Smiths had commercial success. I didn’t say that. I said it seems those who wish it, seem to be American.
Same as the 40something exec thing. Not ALL 40somethings have shite taste in music, obviously. I was referring to those “suits” in HMV browsing the CD rack trying to buy music credibility. These are the people who would have been Yuppies in the 80s so therefore always had bad taste and would be in their 40s now.
Do you see the difference?
Good lad.

> Well now if you did that then you'd be stereotyping. I am a US citizen and
> NEVER wished the Smiths would be on top of the charts consumed by the
> masses. The Smiths belonged to me and the chosen few. Had the general
> public turned the Smiths into mega-stars it would have ruined it for me.

> Also, just because someone is a 40-something exec does not mean they've
> lost it completely. As if turning 40 suddenly makes you uncool. I'm early
> 30-something now and have plenty of exec friends in their 40's and trust
> me, they may be greying a bit here and there but they'll be hipsters til
> the end.

> So basically what I'm saying is that you're wrong. Not in a bad way
> though, you just didn't know any better.
 
Re: Another difference in US and UK Smiths fans

> I get the impression that it is more the American contingent that wish and
> wonder why The Smiths were never commercially successful. The latest poll
> on the homepage is asking opinion on reasons for this. People who ask this
> question seem to think that if a band is spankingly brilliant, they MUST
> have chart success. The reality is, this would have ruined a band like The
> Smiths.

My thoughts entirely.. success generally equals runi! I love the fact they never broke out of the cult appreciateion a loyal minority still foster to this day.. It's why we are here.

But if Morrissey opened his own Waco, and demanded suicide.. I wouldn't go that far. I'd still buy his next 12" though!

Ruffian
 
Re: Another difference in US and UK Smiths fans

> Guillermo, my picture posting friend, not ALL American fans wish the
> Smiths had commercial success. I didn’t say that. I said it seems those
> who wish it, seem to be American.
> Same as the 40something exec thing. Not ALL 40somethings have shite taste
> in music, obviously. I was referring to those “suits” in HMV browsing the
> CD rack trying to buy music credibility. These are the people who would
> have been Yuppies in the 80s so therefore always had bad taste and would
> be in their 40s now.
> Do you see the difference?
> Good lad.

Phew, glad to hear that. You had me worried for a minute there.
 
Re:Not a good idea to show everyone you're lacking something in the humour department, Shuggy.
 
Re: M. Ghandi

> It was not enough for you to colonize us. Now you must go and make jokes
> against our greatest leader, the man who emancipated us from British Rule.
> Perhaps, I should stop coming here, as you clearly find this funny, and I
> am deeply hurt.

> Ah, Mahatma Ghandi. The only Indian that the British could not ignore!!

Ach, Im glad you joined in the spirit of that.
Anyway, while I'm here, can I have a pint of milk , a loaf, 10 b&h, a half-bottle of smirnoff, and two curly-wurlies? Cheers.
Oh, and a carrier-bag.
 
My Son The Fanatic

I know you know that those comments do not ring true for so many of us of the Indian Sub-Continent who come from highly educated families of working professionals, like my family. Having said that, your first post was a touch funny though it did insult Americans who killed native Americans, and yet I don't think given Britain's sorded history your are in a good position to throw stones or cast blame. Now then, Patel's reply was miserable in that he missed the joke entirely and took you much too seriously. Your reply was slightly malicious, in that it re-enforced stereotypes of immigrants coming from the Indian Sub-Continent, made a grand overgeneralization, and could be seen as hurtful. If that was your point, I hear you louder than gongs.

Please, if you have not already done so, see the films:

1) East is East
2) My Son The Fanatic

AND LET THAT BE THE LAST WORD ON THIS SUBJECT!!!!
 
Re: Mr. Improper are you using a fake British accent, just what you accused others of doing?

Ok,Ill use the word ASS CLOWN....YOU are an ass clown!!!!!....see no "slang" there...f***in dolt!!!! nice try.
 
Re: Another difference in US and UK Smiths fans

I don't recall The Smiths being dissed much by the music press. From the get go they were beloved by the indie boys and girls. The NME adored The Smiths.

I would describe their position in the musical firmanent of the time as top of the indie heap with a reasonable foray into the concious of mainstream music fans. Most youngish people by '87 would be familiar with the band, at least by name only.

By '87 I think there is an argument for saying that the band had become mainstream. Lots of people were buying their records and attending their gigs. I'm sure the albums all charted strongly.

The gigs were always banged out. People forget that the gigs were very physical (verging on violent) happenings. A lot of laddish unintelligent stuff went on.
 
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