the representation of Asians/Aliens in Morrissey's songs

[Yeats]

Morrissey is not a-political. He has made statements regarding what England owes its own subjects, the UK's policies towards it's own citizenry, and comments on non-natives as well.

Still Ill - England is Mine & it Owes Me a Living

Bengali in Platforms - Shelve Your Western Plans

Asian Rut - Just passing through here on my way to somewhere civilized and maybe I'll even arrive...

The National Front Disco - There Is A Country You Don't Live There But Someday You Would Like To

Interesting Drug - Government Scheme Designed To Kill Your Dream

A Rush & A Push & The Land Is Ours - A rush and a push and the land that
We stand on is ours, It has been before, So it shall be again

PlEASE DISCUSS.

Thanks.

[bobmozza]

Errrrr, the last time I checked it wasn't 1992. Get OVER it! As for:

Still Ill- that line refers to what Myra Hindley is supposed to have said in prison before she decided she was a saintly catholic.

Bengali in Platforms- it's set in the 70s when Moz was less informed on race relations by his own admission.

Asian Rut- this tune is possibly one of the worst in the world ever. Nuff said.

The National Front Disco- is just a joke and a story of a racist thug and what he believes and how his family and friends have reacted to those beliefs. And the fact it's got the word disco in it is a clue that this tune is firmly tongue in cheek, surely?

Interesting Drug- this 'government scheme' could be anything from the dole to the enterprise allowance scheme. This tune is like the reason for the poll tax riots set to music. I don't think race or nationality (Moz's own) comes into it.

A Rush and a Push...- the title refers to irish nationalism so I suppose that has something to do with nationality however it is used in the context of an ironic 'call to arms' directed at his fans to revolt against the ruling powers and take the power for themselves. Of course the irony is he knows they're all too mired in their own melodrama to do anything other than bitch about it.

Of course Morrissey is not Apolitical. He called for Thatcher to be executed French-style for goodness sake! The whole point of The Smiths was to provide a real alternative with something to say about the mess around them that was 1980s Britain. But I thought I would reply to your comments anyway.

> Morrissey is not a-political. He has made statements regarding what
> England owes its own subjects, the UK's policies towards it's own
> citizenry, and comments on non-natives as well.

> Still Ill - England is Mine & it Owes Me a Living

> Bengali in Platforms - Shelve Your Western Plans

> Asian Rut - Just passing through here on my way to somewhere civilized and
> maybe I'll even arrive...

> The National Front Disco - There Is A Country You Don't Live There But
> Someday You Would Like To

> Interesting Drug - Government Scheme Designed To Kill Your Dream

> A Rush & A Push & The Land Is Ours - A rush and a push and the
> land that
> We stand on is ours, It has been before, So it shall be again

> PlEASE DISCUSS.

> Thanks.

[poison ivy]

yES bOBZILLA

Rush and a push/this land is ours..this land is ours is an Irish nationalistic song? Like Ye Blacks and ye tartans type clarion call.

WHat about ALsatian cousins/ dogs? Denigerate to dogs..Are alsatians germans? France's Alsace region.As far i know, Morrissey doesn't have germanic relatives.: ) Only relatives in NJ or Colorado.Parents from Dublin proper.
Must be another "inspired" piece. Nico.

The Asian cycle i skip often.

> Errrrr, the last time I checked it wasn't 1992. Get OVER it! As for:

> Still Ill- that line refers to what Myra Hindley is supposed to have said
> in prison before she decided she was a saintly catholic.

> Bengali in Platforms- it's set in the 70s when Moz was less informed on
> race relations by his own admission.

> Asian Rut- this tune is possibly one of the worst in the world ever. Nuff
> said.

> The National Front Disco- is just a joke and a story of a racist thug and
> what he believes and how his family and friends have reacted to those
> beliefs. And the fact it's got the word disco in it is a clue that this
> tune is firmly tongue in cheek, surely?

> Interesting Drug- this 'government scheme' could be anything from the dole
> to the enterprise allowance scheme. This tune is like the reason for the
> poll tax riots set to music. I don't think race or nationality (Moz's own)
> comes into it.

> A Rush and a Push...- the title refers to irish nationalism so I suppose
> that has something to do with nationality however it is used in the
> context of an ironic 'call to arms' directed at his fans to revolt against
> the ruling powers and take the power for themselves. Of course the irony
> is he knows they're all too mired in their own melodrama to do anything
> other than bitch about it.

> Of course Morrissey is not Apolitical. He called for Thatcher to be
> executed French-style for goodness sake! The whole point of The Smiths was
> to provide a real alternative with something to say about the mess around
> them that was 1980s Britain. But I thought I would reply to your comments
> anyway.

[Tingle]

Ivy

Dickon Edwards says that the title "Alsatian Coucin" comes from Alan Bennett's play 'Forty Years On', see:

www.livejournal.com/~dickon_edwards/2002/07/26/

no, nothing to do with dogs, but a reference to Virginia Woolf

> yES bOBZILLA

> Rush and a push/this land is ours..this land is ours is an Irish
> nationalistic song? Like Ye Blacks and ye tartans type clarion call.

> WHat about ALsatian cousins/ dogs? Denigerate to dogs..Are alsatians
> germans? France's Alsace region.As far i know, Morrissey doesn't have
> germanic relatives.: ) Only relatives in NJ or Colorado.Parents from
> Dublin proper.
> Must be another "inspired" piece. Nico.

> The Asian cycle i skip often.

[A.K1976]

Come on mate, get a grip. Unless you are a budding journalist for the NME ?

> Morrissey is not a-political. He has made statements regarding what
> England owes its own subjects, the UK's policies towards it's own
> citizenry, and comments on non-natives as well.

> Still Ill - England is Mine & it Owes Me a Living

> Bengali in Platforms - Shelve Your Western Plans

> Asian Rut - Just passing through here on my way to somewhere civilized and
> maybe I'll even arrive...

> The National Front Disco - There Is A Country You Don't Live There But
> Someday You Would Like To

> Interesting Drug - Government Scheme Designed To Kill Your Dream

> A Rush & A Push & The Land Is Ours - A rush and a push and the
> land that
> We stand on is ours, It has been before, So it shall be again

> PlEASE DISCUSS.

> Thanks.

[macdoosey]

> Errrrr, the last time I checked it wasn't 1992. Get OVER it! As for:

> Still Ill- that line refers to what Myra Hindley is supposed to have said
> in prison before she decided she was a saintly catholic.

> Bengali in Platforms- it's set in the 70s when Moz was less informed on
> race relations by his own admission.

> Asian Rut- this tune is possibly one of the worst in the world ever. Nuff
> said.

> The National Front Disco- is just a joke and a story of a racist thug and
> what he believes and how his family and friends have reacted to those
> beliefs. And the fact it's got the word disco in it is a clue that this
> tune is firmly tongue in cheek, surely?

> Interesting Drug- this 'government scheme' could be anything from the dole
> to the enterprise allowance scheme. This tune is like the reason for the
> poll tax riots set to music. I don't think race or nationality (Moz's own)
> comes into it.

> A Rush and a Push...- the title refers to irish nationalism so I suppose
> that has something to do with nationality however it is used in the
> context of an ironic 'call to arms' directed at his fans to revolt against
> the ruling powers and take the power for themselves. Of course the irony
> is he knows they're all too mired in their own melodrama to do anything
> other than bitch about it.

> Of course Morrissey is not Apolitical. He called for Thatcher to be
> executed French-style for goodness sake! The whole point of The Smiths was
> to provide a real alternative with something to say about the mess around
> them that was 1980s Britain. But I thought I would reply to your comments
> anyway.
Um, given the context of a rush and a push... I would say that it is not really political despite what it references.