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    suzanne
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    > The Jag noses its way towards West Hollywood, where Morrissey lives, and
    > below the rear-view mirror a silver cross and a Greek army dog-tag -
    > thrown onstage by a fan in Athens - jangle against one another. Morrissey
    > tells me he is "three dotted i's away" from signing a new record
    > deal with the Sanctuary Music Group, home to Black Sabbath, Todd Rundgren
    > and others of the never-say-die fanbase contingent. As a dowry, they are
    > giving him his own label, the resurrected 60s and 70s reggae imprint
    > Attack, along with the rights to its back catalogue and license to sign
    > whomever he likes (this Morrissey finds especially delicious considering
    > the stick he took in the late 80s for telling the NME that "Reggae is
    > vile"). Recording of the album Irish Blood, English Heart should
    > happen in the summer.

    i suppose this will be good if he now wants to go on tour and the band he's asking to support doesn't have a label to pay for it.

    > It's not that bad, surely. They show the news, and Father Ted.

    > Father Ted? (Pained expression). Ugh. You see, I don't find humour funny.
    > That's my problem. What I find funny is things like Alan Bennett, or Jo
    > Brand, or Victoria Wood. In the early 80s she completely changed the face
    > of television comedy, not just for women by for men too. I admire her for
    > that. She was revolutionary.

    Father Ted is genius if you compare it to My Hero.

    > What can you cook?

    > I'm very good with pasta, but I have the most boring palate. I'd cry if I
    > had to eat curry, or what's commonly referred to as "a Chinese".

    does that Pasta come covered in a jar of Ragu?

    > Who comes to visit you in Los Angeles?

    > Many people. World figures. The oddest people. Nancy Sinatra came a few
    > weeks ago. I served tea, which she wisely did not drink. We talked about
    > her, her music and her life - she knows absolutely everything about my
    > music, which is extraordinary. She's recording a new song of mine called
    > Let Me Kiss You, which makes me very, very happy. My mother and sister
    > don't come to Los Angeles too often; my mum doesn't like Americans.

    she doesn't like it that the americans have taken away her little boy.

    > Is your father still around? Are you like him?

    > Yes, he is. And yes, I am, in certain respects. Why?

    > Because your Irishness is coming to the fore. You've written a song called
    > Irish Blood, English Heart, you've started to say "Jaysus", you
    > now pronounce the word "any to rhyme with "Annie"...

    > That's interesting. But even when The Smiths recorded Please Please Please
    > Let Me Get What I Want there were thousands of letters saying "This
    > is Foster and Allen" or something similar.

    Who?

    > There are certain people in modern pop who I am very impressed with.
    > People like Bono and Noel Gallagher. I like them enormously. I understand
    > Bono and I think he is worth supporting. When you meet him, you can see
    > why he is very good at that ambassadorial role. He exudes a great sense of
    > ease and enthusiasm. That's a gift. I've met him a few times. The first
    > time was when I presented an award to him in Belfast about six years ago,
    > and we talked at length. You can see he's a very loving and decent person
    > and actually not remotely pretentious. And I think I understand Liam and
    > Noel too. They've done so much for Manchester music, and saleswise they've
    > put so many people in their. They're very natural. They present themselves
    > as they truly, absolutely are, which is admirable. They don't try to
    > present some rock persona.

    yet, they still make boring music.

    > In music? A lot of people. Although I now feel that, somehow in their own
    > peculiar way, almost everybody is doing their best. They're just not
    > interesting to me because they know no better. In the wider world, George
    > W and Tony Bland are insufferable, egotistical, insane despots. It is
    > unforgivable of them to send people to Irag and certain death. Watching
    > the war from here was astonishing. In this country American error is
    > unthinkable, so you simply cannot watch the American news. I was here on
    > September 11 and you could clearly see that it has given America another
    > opportunity to bully people. When you come through airport customs, you
    > must be abused and insulted. Americans are very big on people in authority
    > and in uniform. In this country the police have absolute power - they can
    > shoot you in the street and the courts will always side with them. So it
    > is a very, very fascist country.

    and we know how to deport people as well for being troublemakers....

    > What's your working regimen here?

    > I don't work. I never really have. I don't consider what I do to be work.
    > I just exist, and be. In terms of making records, a couple of the band
    > live here. Boz has his other work, and some of the others like Spencer
    > prefer to work only for me, so they just tend their freesias and wait for
    > the call.

    Did he slip and mean to say Alain?

    >For the signal in the sky. In the very early days. I remember
    > Geoff Travis from Rough Trade telling me "You must have a Walkman for
    > you work," and I walked away thinking, "What does he mean,
    > work?" I can't conceive of what I do as a job. I object very
    > strongly, for instance, to the word "performance". I don't think
    > I have ever given a performance in my life - I've only ever been me. I
    > live a certain life that is documented in recordings, but it is just a
    > life.

    he's basically saying he likes to avoid leisure activities..

    > Robbie Williams is now your neighbour here in Los Angeles. Why do you
    > think the Americans haven't taken to him?

    > He is being absolutely foisted on America - so much money has been
    > invested that there has to be a return somehow. But Americans have their
    > own people playing that "straightforward entertainer" role, and
    > his Cheeky Chappie thing doesn't play here. Americans construe it as being
    > rude, just as they never took to Noel and Liam for the same reasons.

    we didn't take to Oasis because they make bad music! they had one good album. that's it.

    Robbie Williams is just too cheap for us.

    > The Morrissey residence is a cool, high-ceilinged house in a quiet,
    > serpentine street up the hill off Sunset Boulevard. It could not differ
    > more from the pinky-blue stores and ranch-themed steak joints down the
    > hill. In his parlour Morrissey has an overstuffed brocade settee, a Thai
    > love goddess sitting in his fireplace, a crystal ball on the coffee table
    > ("It doesn't work"), a giant brass lion, a disconnected neon
    > sign from the Virgin Megastore which reads MORR ISSEY over the fire and no
    > TV. A heavy, locked bookcase contains biographies of Steve McQueen and
    > other Hollywood stars, and there are bongoes by the patio door. There are
    > bits of Mexican silver everywhere, and a keyring with ESTEBAN stamped on a
    > little replica of a Mexican license plate. It's all rather sybaritic.
    > Another room, however, is less sensually-inclined. It contains a
    > flatscreen G4 Powermac and a giant plasma screen TV.

    aha! but i suppose that powermac only had the capability to fax letters.

    > Fans, inevitably, have found him here. Knots of people often wait at the
    > gate; if Morrissey does not give enough of his time, they can be abusive.
    > "You don't choose your fans but you sure know how to lose them,"
    > is a standard taunt, which Morrissey thought was quite witty at first.
    > Then he realised it was common currency among the kind of people who wait
    > at pop stars' gates. His house has been broken into twice. Once the
    > burglars stole a car, which was frightening because Morrissey was in the
    > house at the time, but also sort of reassuring because at least they were
    > just thieves - they didn't want to talk to him.

    i suppose they found the car...

    > The worst thing about living in Los Angeles, Morrissey thinks, is the
    > food. You can't get a decent vegetarian meal for love nor money. Most
    > nights he eats at home.

    weird. but then again, most veggie places probably have oriental and indian food which are not on his list.

    > Several of your new songs are about Mexican life. There’s The First Of The
    > Gang To Die, where the typical Morrissey boy-hero is a gangster called
    > Hector, and Mexico, about migrant workers. Isn’t this the first time
    > you’ve written about people who aren’t British?

    > It’s about time isn’t it? I do like social observation and these seemed
    > like natural subjects for my kind of songs. It is a fascinating culture,
    > but also the Spanish-speaking audience is so valuable in America these
    > days. Everybody wants the “Hispanic” audience. I have to say, though, that
    > I don’t watch Spanish television any more than English television. It’s
    > unwatchable, it’s just people cheering and applauding all the way through
    > and you never know why.

    and he's probably not interested in the parade of scantily clad women that are on all of those shows, either..

    > What goes through you mind when you’re onstage?

    > The joy of final human fulfilment. There’s nothing to touch it. It’s as
    > good as life gets, and never more so than the last string of dates I did
    > in Blackburn, Bradford and Glasgow. They were the best nights of my life.
    > The audiences were so astonishing and I though, “There is nothing that
    > life can give me that will take me beyond these night.”

    so that's why he didn't resume the tour! it was too much fun!

    > What is the current state of play in your legal dispute with Mike Joyce?
    > [The Smiths’ drummer was awarded £1.25m in back royalties in 1996;
    > Morrissey lost an appeal in 1998]

    oh god.

    > The appeal comes to court at the end of June. He has put a charge on my
    > mother and sisters’ houses, and it is astonishing that that could happen.
    > In the 1996 trial Judge John Weeks made a very wayward judgment which told
    > Joyce he was a 25 per cent partner who can have whatever he wanted. But
    > the judge did not explain to Joyce how he could get the money. As every
    > contract was always with Morrissey and Marr, no company will recognise
    > Joyce so he’s issuing writs left, right and centre. He has been at the
    > stage door of every concert I’ve played recently, trying to get money. He
    > is a purely evil person and he has persecuted my mother, my nephews and
    > sister, but he presents the public face of a person who’s hard done-by and
    > has been thrown to the wayside.

    > Yet Johnny and I looked after and protected him throughout his time with
    > The Smiths. He never had to make one creative decision. His drum patterns
    > were all designed by Johnny. He never had to sit in on any intense
    > business meetings, which is how Johnny and I had to face every single day.
    > We even looked after his tax. Joyce went into court with no witnesses and
    > no evidence, and stood against a mass of evidence and witnesses, against
    > all of which the judge simply said “this did not happen”. The judge had
    > obviously been primed on my character, and told that I had written about
    > Thatcher and the Queen. It’s likely that Thatcher had appointed the judge.
    > So I was not a very sympathetic character whereas Joyce was playing the
    > part of the wounded soldier.

    if moz didn't march in there like he was going to pull out an uzi and start shooting everyone, and instead presented himself as a victim, then he would come across as a victim!

    go and see the movie Chicago for reference. or see old tapes of the OJ Simpson trial.

    but all he did was add to the other side's evidence that he's a bullying con artist back in '96 when he got up there and started lashing out on the stand and being uncooperative when they were asking questions. if you saw somebody doing that, wouldn't you assume that they have something to hide? why not go up there with the attitude that you're more than happy to lay everything out on the table and for it all to end?

    i know he probably thinks that his anger makes him look like he's fed up with this nonsense, but that's not how it plays out. i don't care if the judge had been "briefed" on his character. the other side's arguement was that Mike was just some poor sap who was robbed of his money by his scheming and manipulative band mates, when moz or marr took the stand, the judge was going to look at them to see if they came across as that type or not. being uncooperative on the stand played right into it.

    > What do you worry about?

    > I have a lot of business pressures. There are three court cases and Joyce
    > has caused so much pain in my family.

    Three?!?!? What are the other two?

    do all entertainment types live in the courthouse?

    >I worry that I find so much modern
    > music atrocious, and unpalatable – because I do love music, and I want to
    > like, and to be able to join in. I don’t want to come across as
    > mealy-mouthed Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells but most people who are
    > currently successful have absolutely nothing to offer. I long for someone
    > to reach out and startle me, and say something that means something. I
    > long for someone a little bit like me.

    you might want to try searching through the mental wards to find someone who is crazy enough to be a professional musician in this day and age.

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    nonesoever
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    > she doesn't like it that the americans have taken away her little boy.

    Would you? It's as if aliens abducted him.

    > Who?

    I thought it was "foster and alien" (not a person)

    > yet, they still make boring music.

    You can't blame them for doing their best.
    "if you try the best you can, the best you can is good enough"
    (Radiohead justifying themselves)

    > and we know how to deport people as well for being troublemakers....

    At least you do it well.

    > Did he slip and mean to say Alain?

    If it's a poke at Spencer, it's really witty.

    > he's basically saying he likes to avoid leisure activities..

    > we didn't take to Oasis because they make bad music! they had one good
    > album. that's it.

    I thought the US has taken to Oasis, some of their albums sold
    in the tens of millions.

    > Robbie Williams is just too cheap for us.

    It's funny you know who he is (at all).

    > aha! but i suppose that powermac only had the capability to fax letters.

    It comes with full suite of Lawyers Directories, Legal Letters Templates, etc.

    > i suppose they found the car...

    They found it at The Smiths Convention parking lot.

    > weird. but then again, most veggie places probably have oriental and
    > indian food which are not on his list.

    > and he's probably not interested in the parade of scantily clad women that
    > are on all of those shows, either..

    Yeah, they look too much like the audience at his shows.

    > so that's why he didn't resume the tour! it was too much fun!

    The ol' "quit while you're ahead of Mike Joyce"

    > oh god.

    > if moz didn't march in there like he was going to pull out an uzi and
    > start shooting everyone, and instead presented himself as a victim, then
    > he would come across as a victim!

    > go and see the movie Chicago for reference. or see old tapes of the OJ
    > Simpson trial.

    > but all he did was add to the other side's evidence that he's a bullying
    > con artist back in '96 when he got up there and started lashing out on the
    > stand and being uncooperative when they were asking questions. if you saw
    > somebody doing that, wouldn't you assume that they have something to hide?
    > why not go up there with the attitude that you're more than happy to lay
    > everything out on the table and for it all to end?

    > i know he probably thinks that his anger makes him look like he's fed up
    > with this nonsense, but that's not how it plays out. i don't care if the
    > judge had been "briefed" on his character. the other side's
    > arguement was that Mike was just some poor sap who was robbed of his money
    > by his scheming and manipulative band mates, when moz or marr took the
    > stand, the judge was going to look at them to see if they came across as
    > that type or not. being uncooperative on the stand played right into it.

    I believe that every case, which relies purely on testimonies, is a bit shabby.
    Mike Joyce had no papers and his behavior indicated that he knew all along that he is paid only 10%.
    I also believe that no person should be found against, only because the judge didn't like him, the way he behave or his looks.
    For Morrissey to pretend to be someone, who he isn't, just to win a case, is not what I call justice.
    You have to remember Johnny was there too and he is more of a nice guy and he lost as well.

    > Three?!?!? What are the other two?

    Inland tax (taxman) in the UK, the crew must have filed one too by now.

    > do all entertainment types live in the courthouse?

    Those of them, who are successful.

    > you might want to try searching through the mental wards to find someone
    > who is crazy enough to be a professional musician in this day and age.

    Yeah, who would want all this money, adulation and power.

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    suzanne
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    > Would you? It's as if aliens abducted him.

    uh...yeah! yeah! i completely agree that americans are 100% evil. i shudder when i look at myself in the mirror.

    > I thought it was "foster and alien" (not a person)

    that doesn't clear anything up! what are they generally talking about?

    > You can't blame them for doing their best.
    > "if you try the best you can, the best you can is good enough"
    > (Radiohead justifying themselves)

    > At least you do it well.

    > If it's a poke at Spencer, it's really witty.

    is he still waiting around after 4 years?

    > I thought the US has taken to Oasis, some of their albums sold
    > in the tens of millions.

    Definitely Maybe did. You couldn't escaped Wonderwall. Since then, they've been flushed.

    > It's funny you know who he is (at all).

    is it? well, he's on the end-cusp of my musical pop-cultural knowledge, back in the days when i cared to know these things.

    > It comes with full suite of Lawyers Directories, Legal Letters Templates,
    > etc.

    yes, and yahoo maps with driving directions to the lawyers...

    > They found it at The Smiths Convention parking lot.

    of course! the last place he'd look!

    > Yeah, they look too much like the audience at his shows.

    > The ol' "quit while you're ahead of Mike Joyce"

    > I believe that every case, which relies purely on testimonies, is a bit
    > shabby.
    > Mike Joyce had no papers and his behavior indicated that he knew all along
    > that he is paid only 10%.
    > I also believe that no person should be found against, only because the
    > judge didn't like him, the way he behave or his looks.
    > For Morrissey to pretend to be someone, who he isn't, just to win a case,
    > is not what I call justice.
    > You have to remember Johnny was there too and he is more of a nice guy and
    > he lost as well.

    yeah, but if you remember how the judge summed up how he came to his findings you'll see that i'm saying the truth.

    he said morrissey was _____ (you know this one)
    mike joyce wasn't the brightest bulb, but came out as an upstanding citizen who didn't know any better.
    and johnny marr was the smartest one of the bunch, (i don't know what else he said about johnny, but it basically sounded like moz was the one calling the shots)

    at any rate, point being is that some judge is going to try and fit this into existing law. he's going to try and find a reason why it should be split 25% across the board because then you have to get into an area of figuring out how much mike's contribution is actually worth. he knew that andy had to settle because he was broke and knew that this case had been stalled for years and years which already makes it look like moz & marr really didn't have a case and were just going to wait him out until he settled.

    > Inland tax (taxman) in the UK, the crew must have filed one too by now.

    i don't know, but i doubt this for some reason.

    > Those of them, who are successful.

    > Yeah, who would want all this money, adulation and power.

    and the stalkers, lawsuits, career that lasts as long as the lifespan of a gnat, being ripped off by their label and then dropped after an album, constantly having to beg for attention from the media, people making fun of you on tv, gossip about what someone found in your trash or who you are dating or what you ate yesterday, tell all biographies.......

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    nonesoever
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    > uh...yeah! yeah! i completely agree that americans are 100% evil. i
    > shudder when i look at myself in the mirror.

    It's not that. I think Morrissey's overexposure to the Californian sun,
    has caused him to mutate.
    Which only goes to show, you must not introduce new species to a continent
    that can't handle them.

    > that doesn't clear anything up! what are they generally talking about?

    I believe it has to do with his Irishness and that some people in England
    always thought what he does/wrote was foster and alien because of it.

    > is he still waiting around after 4 years?

    Who? Spencer? he had/has a band (which I forgot the name of now).
    But after Spencer gently bashed him in interviews, maybe Morrissey felt
    compelled to return a favor.

    > Definitely Maybe did. You couldn't escaped Wonderwall. Since then, they've
    > been flushed.

    That happens with a lot of bands (also American bands), it doesn't mean America hasn't taken to them (it did as you've stated).

    > is it? well, he's on the end-cusp of my musical pop-cultural knowledge,
    > back in the days when i cared to know these things.

    No, I meant, Robbie cries all the time on how no one knows him in America,
    I therefore found it amazing you knew who he was.

    > yes, and yahoo maps with driving directions to the lawyers...

    Who needs maps? He has that fax doesn't he?
    I would imagine with the rates they are charging him,
    they could at least make the trip over to his house.

    > of course! the last place he'd look!

    Why do you think they found it? The police's top men were on the case?

    > yeah, but if you remember how the judge summed up how he came to his
    > findings you'll see that i'm saying the truth.

    > he said morrissey was _____ (you know this one)
    > mike joyce wasn't the brightest bulb, but came out as an upstanding
    > citizen who didn't know any better.
    > and johnny marr was the smartest one of the bunch, (i don't know what else
    > he said about johnny, but it basically sounded like moz was the one
    > calling the shots)

    > at any rate, point being is that some judge is going to try and fit this
    > into existing law. he's going to try and find a reason why it should be
    > split 25% across the board because then you have to get into an area of
    > figuring out how much mike's contribution is actually worth. he knew that
    > andy had to settle because he was broke and knew that this case had been
    > stalled for years and years which already makes it look like moz &
    > marr really didn't have a case and were just going to wait him out until
    > he settled.

    I know that this is the case, I just don't think this is how it should've been.
    Anyway, if Johnny was so smart why did it have to come to this? Why didn't he have a written legally binding contract with Joyce?
    I believe Joyce should settle with Morrissey as well. He is not gonna see a penny as long as Morrissey is alive, and then he wouldn't be able to enjoy it anyway.

    > i don't know, but i doubt this for some reason.

    It is said he owes Inland Tax something around 800,000 pounds.
    I'm surprised it's only three lawsuits to be honest.

    > and the stalkers, lawsuits, career that lasts as long as the lifespan of a
    > gnat, being ripped off by their label and then dropped after an album,
    > constantly having to beg for attention from the media, people making fun
    > of you on tv, gossip about what someone found in your trash or who you are
    > dating or what you ate yesterday, tell all biographies.......

    If you just came out of the mental ward, you'd get along beautifully with these characters and you wouldn't mind the attention either

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    nonesoever
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    Default Re: Oh Suzanne

    Sorry about that Foster and Allen bit, see the clarification post above
    (link bellow).




    Foster and Allen

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    suzanne
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    > It's not that. I think Morrissey's overexposure to the Californian sun,
    > has caused him to mutate.
    > Which only goes to show, you must not introduce new species to a continent
    > that can't handle them.

    but usually, the devour and destroy everything in sight, don't they?

    > I believe it has to do with his Irishness and that some people in England
    > always thought what he does/wrote was foster and alien because of it.

    i keep envisioning an alien drinking australian beer. that's all i get from it! :^)

    > Who? Spencer? he had/has a band (which I forgot the name of now).
    > But after Spencer gently bashed him in interviews, maybe Morrissey felt
    > compelled to return a favor.

    somebody interviewed Spencer? who are these weird people?

    > That happens with a lot of bands (also American bands), it doesn't mean
    > America hasn't taken to them (it did as you've stated).

    > No, I meant, Robbie cries all the time on how no one knows him in America,
    > I therefore found it amazing you knew who he was.

    that's because Take That were hovering around when i was trying to figure out what the big thing in britain was back in '96. not that i listened to them....

    > Who needs maps? He has that fax doesn't he?
    > I would imagine with the rates they are charging him,
    > they could at least make the trip over to his house.

    but how can he use his fax if they are coming over anyhow? does he fax it from another room into theirs?

    > Why do you think they found it? The police's top men were on the case?

    no, i just thought moz would want to stay far away from a smiths-con.

    > I know that this is the case, I just don't think this is how it should've
    > been.
    > Anyway, if Johnny was so smart why did it have to come to this? Why didn't
    > he have a written legally binding contract with Joyce?

    probably because he grew up with these guys and didn't feel comfortable throwing legal contracts in their faces.

    > I believe Joyce should settle with Morrissey as well. He is not gonna see
    > a penny as long as Morrissey is alive, and then he wouldn't be able to
    > enjoy it anyway.

    er, maybe, but i'm sure the lawyers want their cut as well.

    > It is said he owes Inland Tax something around 800,000 pounds.
    > I'm surprised it's only three lawsuits to be honest.

    yeah, maybe...

    > If you just came out of the mental ward, you'd get along beautifully with
    > these characters and you wouldn't mind the attention either

    er, you're not talking to me, are you? you've mistaken me for somebody else

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    nonesoever
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    > but usually, the devour and destroy everything in sight, don't they?

    Yes they do, but Morrissey clearly hasn't adapted to his new environment.
    He imports his food and beverages and ... doesn't reproduce.

    > i keep envisioning an alien drinking australian beer. that's all i get
    > from it! :^)

    I was wrong apparently. You can now envision Foster and Allen drinking beer,
    although I doubt if it's a less disturbing image from that Australian fellow.

    > somebody interviewed Spencer? who are these weird people?

    The girls at MorrisseyTour.com, way back (when he was still working ).

    > that's because Take That were hovering around when i was trying to figure
    > out what the big thing in britain was back in '96. not that i listened to
    > them....

    Yes, it's amazing someone can have a successful career after taking part in that.

    > but how can he use his fax if they are coming over anyhow? does he fax it
    > from another room into theirs?

    The sad thing, it's probably what he does.

    You wouldn't want to spend time in their presence either. It's infectious,
    next thing you'd know, you'd be suing your mother for breach of contract.

    > no, i just thought moz would want to stay far away from a smiths-con.

    nice that would explain why he said he was "home" when the car was stolen.

    > probably because he grew up with these guys and didn't feel comfortable
    > throwing legal contracts in their faces.

    But he could have blamed Morrissey that's what everybody else would have done.

    > er, maybe, but i'm sure the lawyers want their cut as well.

    You probably heard this one before:
    How do you call 50 lawyers at the bottom of the sea?
    A good start.
    (I say the bottom of the sea is where they belong, they are sharks)

    The truth of the matter is lawyers do what their client wants,
    even if it's wrong, pointless or futile.

    > yeah, maybe...

    > er, you're not talking to me, are you? you've mistaken me for somebody
    > else

    Yeah, I've mistaken you for Morrissey (prescription drugs).
    No, I was referring to your previous comments on the subject.

  8. #8
    suzanne
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    Default Re: Oh Suzanne

    > Yes they do, but Morrissey clearly hasn't adapted to his new environment.
    > He imports his food and beverages and ... doesn't reproduce.

    i would import all of my food for the hell of it.

    obviously he can't reproduce if he's the last of his species...

    > I was wrong apparently. You can now envision Foster and Allen drinking
    > beer,
    > although I doubt if it's a less disturbing image from that Australian
    > fellow.

    Fosters! Alienish for "beer".

    > The girls at MorrisseyTour.com, way back (when he was still working ).

    oh yeah. i didn't know if you meant a real publication or not.

    > Yes, it's amazing someone can have a successful career after taking part
    > in that.

    i've seen other stuff on the british charts. its no wonder he's survived.

    > The sad thing, it's probably what he does.

    > You wouldn't want to spend time in their presence either. It's infectious,
    > next thing you'd know, you'd be suing your mother for breach of contract.

    no, i'd run far far away from all lawyers.

    > nice that would explain why he said he was "home" when the
    > car was stolen.

    i hope the thiefs at least washed it and filled the tank for him.

    > But he could have blamed Morrissey that's what everybody else would have
    > done.

    didn't morrissey say that johnny tried to get him to pay for it all???

    > You probably heard this one before:
    > How do you call 50 lawyers at the bottom of the sea?
    > A good start.
    > (I say the bottom of the sea is where they belong, they are sharks)

    > The truth of the matter is lawyers do what their client wants,
    > even if it's wrong, pointless or futile.

    they have to make a living.

    > Yeah, I've mistaken you for Morrissey (prescription drugs).

    you would be the first.

    > No, I was referring to your previous comments on the subject.

    oh! i misread what you wrote. wrong verb.
    or better yet, get some 17 year old and tell them they will be the luckiest person on the planet if they were a star.

  9. #9
    nonesoever
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    Default Re: Oh Suzanne

    > i would import all of my food for the hell of it.

    or even better, export yourself, to wherever the food is at.

    > obviously he can't reproduce if he's the last of his species...

    With today's cloning technologies he may very well can.
    The question is if we'd like him to.
    I say quit while you're ahead.

    > Fosters! Alienish for "beer".

    I wonder what beer is Alienish for.

    > oh yeah. i didn't know if you meant a real publication or not.

    Every bit of publication concerning Morrissey seems a bit fictional to me.

    > i've seen other stuff on the british charts. its no wonder he's survived.

    Most stuff on the British charts is American.
    What amazes me is how he got a 80 mln pounds recording deal,
    where's the return? (as Morrissey would ask)

    > no, i'd run far far away from all lawyers.

    They're everywhere and they walk, look and talk like human beings.
    you can run, but you can't hide.
    As Morrissey, is beginning to realize.

    > i hope the thiefs at least washed it and filled the tank for him.

    You should post it as a question on this board. They're probably
    distinguished members of this forum, the Stalkers Union.

    > didn't morrissey say that johnny tried to get him to pay for it all???

    Don't know, but it's believable.
    I mean, that Morrissey would say such a thing.

    > they have to make a living.

    As long as Morrissey is around, they have nothing to worry about.
    They kneel and thank god for creating Morrissey, as fans do
    for other reasons.

    > you would be the first.

    He is wearing so much make up nowadays, it's hard to tell.

    > oh! i misread what you wrote. wrong verb.
    > or better yet, get some 17 year old and tell them they will be the
    > luckiest person on the planet if they were a star.

    They should take them to see Morrissey and only then decide.

  10. #10
    suzanne
    Guest

    Default Re: Oh Suzanne

    > or even better, export yourself, to wherever the food is at.

    no.

    even though i have no chance of ever bumping into him, i like having him relatively near by!

    > With today's cloning technologies he may very well can.
    > The question is if we'd like him to.
    > I say quit while you're ahead.

    i don't think anyone could handle it. we'd have to drop the child off at the zoo.

    > I wonder what beer is Alienish for.

    pot?

    > Every bit of publication concerning Morrissey seems a bit fictional to me.

    that's what happens when you try to dissect a crazy person.

    > Most stuff on the British charts is American.
    > What amazes me is how he got a 80 mln pounds recording deal,
    > where's the return? (as Morrissey would ask)

    he looks OK. but he's still too cheap.

    > They're everywhere and they walk, look and talk like human beings.
    > you can run, but you can't hide.
    > As Morrissey, is beginning to realize.

    walk like a man, talk like a man...

    > You should post it as a question on this board. They're probably
    > distinguished members of this forum, the Stalkers Union.

    how can it be a union if i'm not the president? who are these impostors?

    > Don't know, but it's believable.
    > I mean, that Morrissey would say such a thing.

    > As long as Morrissey is around, they have nothing to worry about.
    > They kneel and thank god for creating Morrissey, as fans do
    > for other reasons.

    its nice having an easy target.

    > He is wearing so much make up nowadays, it's hard to tell.

    funny, i rarely wear any makeup. i think that looking your best is overrated.

    > They should take them to see Morrissey and only then decide.

    is it possible to see someone and be like them and want to be a rock star, and then see that same person again and decide its not such a good idea?

    i wonder what scariness the first band he signs to his label will have to undergo should he get his own label at sanctuary?

  11. #11
    david
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    Default Re: Oh Suzanne

    > Definitely Maybe did. You couldn't escaped Wonderwall. Since then, they've
    > been flushed.

    Be Here Now got to number 2 in the charts.I think Morning Glory did well too.

  12. #12
    nonesoever
    Guest

    Default Re: Oh Suzanne

    > no.

    > even though i have no chance of ever bumping into him, i like having him
    > relatively near by!

    For me it's the complete opposite, I like having him as far away as possible.

    > i don't think anyone could handle it. we'd have to drop the child off at
    > the zoo.

    What did those poor chimps at the zoo, ever done to you?

    Last of his species - he's like Superman, without the Super powers.

    > pot?

    Did you hear the US mental health department, or something, were looking
    for a translator who speaks fluent Clingonish.
    Apparently they found one.

    > that's what happens when you try to dissect a crazy person.

    Yeah, you end up crazy as him.

    > he looks OK. but he's still too cheap.

    What do you mean by cheap? The man is worth 80 mln pounds!

    > walk like a man, talk like a man...

    like women like a man.

    > how can it be a union if i'm not the president? who are these impostors?

    you have to undergo an initiation.
    you need to prove yourself worthy, by jumping his gate and sifting through
    his trash - only then do you get respect.

    > its nice having an easy target.

    he's all but easy.

    > funny, i rarely wear any makeup. i think that looking your best is
    > overrated.

    If someone likes me after he has seen the worse side of me,
    that's what I call true love. That, or he's insane.

    > is it possible to see someone and be like them and want to be a rock star,
    > and then see that same person again and decide its not such a good idea?

    It's like looking at your dad/mom.
    You are quite like him/her but do you really want to be?

    > i wonder what scariness the first band he signs to his label will have to
    > undergo should he get his own label at sanctuary?

    I think Morrissey having a label is scary enough.

    No, but seriously:
    First they have to be labeless for at least 5 years.
    They have to give 99% percent of the revenues to him.
    They must not be successful, or he'll destroy them.
    They must not have a drummer!

  13. #13
    suzanne
    Guest

    Default Re: Oh Suzanne

    > Be Here Now got to number 2 in the charts.I think Morning Glory did well
    > too.

    you're right. morning glory was the album i meant to say instead of the other one, but this is what happened:

    the indie kids bought definitely maybe
    it exploded to the general public for morning glory
    they all had high expectations for Be here now and bought it, alas, it was one of those albums they got home and realized they didn't love the band anymore.

  14. #14
    LoafingOaf
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    Default Question about Word interview

    Does anyone know on what approximate date the interview was actually conducted?

  15. #15
    GenderNectar
    Guest

    Default Re: Question about Word interview

    > Does anyone know on what approximate date the interview was actually
    > conducted?

    In the interview it says "It is a sunny Good Friday afternoon in Los Angeles..." so I guess it took place on April 18th.

  16. #16
    nonesoever
    Guest

    Default Re: Question about Word interview

    > Does anyone know on what approximate date the interview was actually
    > conducted?

    My guess is on a good Friday afternoon in April.

    It is said "the appeal comes to court at the end of June" and
    "I met Noel a few months ago in Australia".
    Also "it said he was going to the Gulf and he must speak with Morrissey"
    thus I deduce that's after the war in Iraq.

    The magazine came out on May 15th.

  17. #17
    Merrily, Merrily, Merrily, Merrily Life is but a dream
    Guest

    Default Re: Question about Word interview

    > Does anyone know on what approximate date the interview was actually
    > conducted?
    Ceylon became Sri Lanka in 1972 so it had to be before then.

  18. #18
    suzanne
    Guest

    Default Re: Oh Suzanne

    > For me it's the complete opposite, I like having him as far away as
    > possible.

    then why are you complaining that he's in america?

    or are you american? i can't tell by your writing accent.

    > What did those poor chimps at the zoo, ever done to you?

    they're smarter than i am.

    > Last of his species - he's like Superman, without the Super powers.

    or one of the Mystery Men.

    > Did you hear the US mental health department, or something, were looking
    > for a translator who speaks fluent Clingonish.
    > Apparently they found one.

    they exist. they even have summer camps so you can go learn how to speak Klingon.

    if i go completely crazy, i would like to speak Vulcan.

    > Yeah, you end up crazy as him.

    well that explains it.

    > What do you mean by cheap? The man is worth 80 mln pounds!

    he looks cheap!

    > like women like a man.

    > you have to undergo an initiation.
    > you need to prove yourself worthy, by jumping his gate and sifting through
    > his trash - only then do you get respect.

    damn. isn't there an easier way? can't someone just mail me some rare tracks and then i can drop hints endlessly for months about what they sound like?

    > he's all but easy.

    > If someone likes me after he has seen the worse side of me,
    > that's what I call true love. That, or he's insane.

    i look good always. however, i choose not to look "great".

    > It's like looking at your dad/mom.
    > You are quite like him/her but do you really want to be?

    you mean that i'm going to adopt a cat as my grandchild? noooo!!!!

    > I think Morrissey having a label is scary enough.

    kids shouldn't be given matches to play with.

    > No, but seriously:
    > First they have to be labeless for at least 5 years.
    > They have to give 99% percent of the revenues to him.
    > They must not be successful, or he'll destroy them.
    > They must not have a drummer!

    this would be funny. kinda like the rambunctious kid growing up and having children of their own and finding out the joy of dealing with a rambunctious kid.

  19. #19
    nonesoever
    Guest

    Default Re: Oh Suzanne

    > then why are you complaining that he's in america?

    The happier the environment, the less creative and prolific he becomes.

    > or are you american? i can't tell by your writing accent.

    I'm not and English isn't my mother tongue, hence my accent.

    > they're smarter than i am.

    So what are they doing at the zoo?

    > or one of the Mystery Men.

    Don't know them, it's a mystery to me.

    > they exist. they even have summer camps so you can go learn how to speak
    > Klingon.

    Actually, they were asking for translators in 50 different language.
    It took them a week to acknowledge Klingon isn't a real language.
    But they reassured that if they'd ever have a mental patient speaking
    Klingon, they'd be sure to find him a translator (I guess someone applied
    [Warf?] I bet he thought "and they said I wouldn't get paid for watching TV").
    It seems that the people in that department are the real mental patients.

    > if i go completely crazy, i would like to speak Vulcan.

    Yeah, make it even harder for them to find you a translator.

    > well that explains it.

    > he looks cheap!

    I like him, he's just like Morrissey, only without the talent.
    He had fall out with his co-writer, over his new record dea. sounds familiar?

    > damn. isn't there an easier way? can't someone just mail me some rare
    > tracks and then i can drop hints endlessly for months about what they
    > sound like?

    No, you have to break into his house and get them yourself, then and only
    then would you gain the respect you long for and a criminal record.

    > i look good always. however, i choose not to look "great".

    Keep them asking for more, ha?

    > you mean that i'm going to adopt a cat as my grandchild? noooo!!!!

    She clearly has lost her faith in you (having childern).

    > kids shouldn't be given matches to play with.

    I trust the kids, it's Morrissey I don't trust.

    > this would be funny. kinda like the rambunctious kid growing up and having
    > children of their own and finding out the joy of dealing with a
    > rambunctious kid.

    According to his latest interview, he's gonna kick some rambunctious asses.

  20. #20
    suzanne
    Guest

    Default Re: Oh Suzanne

    > The happier the environment, the less creative and prolific he becomes.

    and apparently, he becomes crazier as well...

    > I'm not and English isn't my mother tongue, hence my accent.

    what are you?

    > So what are they doing at the zoo?

    i keep asking myself that all the time. apparently they must be dumber than someone to be there. i, on the otherhand, have disguised myself as a functional human being.

    > Don't know them, it's a mystery to me.

    It's ben stiller's answer to the X-Men. Its all these characters that have lame super powers.

    > Actually, they were asking for translators in 50 different language.
    > It took them a week to acknowledge Klingon isn't a real language.
    > But they reassured that if they'd ever have a mental patient speaking
    > Klingon, they'd be sure to find him a translator (I guess someone applied
    > [Warf?] I bet he thought "and they said I wouldn't get paid for
    > watching TV").

    one too many trek fans have gone off the deepend.

    "I lost the bidding war for the glass Ensign #5 drank from in episode 24, season 3!!!!!"

    > It seems that the people in that department are the real mental patients.

    good to know. just justifies my reason for not actually being in a home.

    > Yeah, make it even harder for them to find you a translator.

    > I like him, he's just like Morrissey, only without the talent.
    > He had fall out with his co-writer, over his new record dea. sounds
    > familiar?

    "i'm the one with the talent!"
    "i'm the one who made it look like you had talent!"
    "bitch!"
    "ho!"

    > No, you have to break into his house and get them yourself, then and only
    > then would you gain the respect you long for and a criminal record.

    that would be bad. i would want moz happy to see me.

    > Keep them asking for more, ha?

    no, just trying to disappoint people on a daily basis.

    > She clearly has lost her faith in you (having childern).

    i don't blame her. i've lost faith in me as well.
    she still has my sister. one day she will spawn.

    > I trust the kids, it's Morrissey I don't trust.

    "i own you. MWA HA HA HA HA HA!!!! i've designed a new album cover for your new release. Here i am being master, and there you are, being my bitch..."
    "noooo!!!!"

    > According to his latest interview, he's gonna kick some rambunctious
    > asses.

    where did it say that?

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