oaf had a good idea

[nonesoever]

> The UK.

The UK isn't the Laziness State, it's just in a constant drunken haze.

> it explains the past 6 years, actually.

nothing can explain the past 6 years really.

> friends for life..

This doesn't apply to Morrissey.

> is it a clean nickname? i doubt it is.

What do you mean by clean?

> that's why the album should be called "english accent, irish
> hard-head"

It should be called: Attention! English heart, Irish genes - Do not mix!

> yeah, but it doesn't help, either.

> we have a higher standard of living.

That's true.

> oh they get the right information. they just draw the wrong conclusions
> from it.

Just like all of us.

> playing guitar is now about 39th on my list of imporant things to do, much
> further down the list than clipping my toe nails.

At last, something you're proud of.

> he went crazy. just another one lost to the monster.

Morrissey can do that to people.

> he didn't master piano playing...

well, with all that bongo playing, he didn't have the time.

> there's more?

yeah, there's a second and third line.

> i find reasons to be unhappy.

I'm running out of mine fast, what should I do?

[suzanne]

> The UK isn't the Laziness State, it's just in a constant drunken haze.

and they become so drunk they become lazy.

> nothing can explain the past 6 years really.

er, two crazy people in the same room constitutes a nut house?

> This doesn't apply to Morrissey.

"like a brother"? :^P

> What do you mean by clean?

something for a family audience.

> It should be called: Attention! English heart, Irish genes - Do not mix!

"ah, that mike joyce is always after me pot o'gold"

> That's true.

> Just like all of us.

i do it all the time.

> At last, something you're proud of.

yeah, its an ongoing work with constant improvement.

being nearly 30 is too old to start something like that because its way too much upheaval unlike when you're 18 or 20 and really don't have anything specific going on.

> Morrissey can do that to people.

yeah i know

> well, with all that bongo playing, he didn't have the time.

maybe he'll sing a little bit on this album. its always unexpected when he does.

> yeah, there's a second and third line.

> I'm running out of mine fast, what should I do?

do something to have your hopes raised again, and then relive the downward ascent until you hit rock bottom.

[nonesoever]

> and they become so drunk they become lazy.

yeah that's true, but if it weren't so, their biggest export
couldn't have been music. Look at Germany - that's what work
does to people.

> er, two crazy people in the same room constitutes a nut house?

If not, it's at least a good start.

> "like a brother"? :^P

ha? Good thing he only has a sister.

> something for a family audience.

Maybe Morrissey can really find a "friend for life"
in the form of this G4. It doesn't ask for money,
love or affection.

> "ah, that mike joyce is always after me pot o'gold"

"This is the last album I will ever make"

> i do it all the time.

me too. I just look at things differently than other people
and I don't mean it necessarily in a good way.

> yeah, its an ongoing work with constant improvement.

To quote Morrissey, "don't meddle with a masterpiece".

> being nearly 30 is too old to start something like that because its way
> too much upheaval unlike when you're 18 or 20 and really don't have
> anything specific going on.

I'm almost 21, and let me tell you I really don't have anything specific
going on and I like it this way.

> yeah i know

> maybe he'll sing a little bit on this album. its always unexpected when he
> does.

Funny, the notion of him singing. He usually does something that vaguely
resembles singing, but not quite.

> do something to have your hopes raised again, and then relive the downward
> ascent until you hit rock bottom.

I think I already hit rock bottom, that's my problem.

[suzanne]

> yeah that's true, but if it weren't so, their biggest export
> couldn't have been music. Look at Germany - that's what work
> does to people.

ja! ja! werk ist gut, ja!

> If not, it's at least a good start.

its certifiable.

> ha? Good thing he only has a sister.

he could always expand his little gathering..

> Maybe Morrissey can really find a "friend for life"
> in the form of this G4. It doesn't ask for money,
> love or affection.

its hard demanding that much of them. i know they generate good graphics, but i think a G4 on his arm at the Cat and Fiddle would look strange. maybe he needs to raise his aspirations a bit as to what else he can get out of the computer...

> "This is the last album I will ever make"

no, i've changed my mind again...

> me too. I just look at things differently than other people
> and I don't mean it necessarily in a good way.

try looking at it oddly...

> To quote Morrissey, "don't meddle with a masterpiece".

true dat.

> I'm almost 21, and let me tell you I really don't have anything specific
> going on and I like it this way.

see? yeah. its those years that you are basically homeless and out partying all the time because you don't have a real job anyway that its no big step to try and form a band and regard it as a serious venture.

> Funny, the notion of him singing. He usually does something that vaguely
> resembles singing, but not quite.

humming?

> I think I already hit rock bottom, that's my problem.

its time to raise yourself back up again.

[nonesoever]

> ja! ja! werk ist gut, ja!

World War II began because too many Germans were unemployed, it's a fact.
I fear, a third one is at the gate.

> its certifiable.

If you say so, Dr. Suzanne, M.D.

> he could always expand his little gathering..

Is that an offer?

> its hard demanding that much of them. i know they generate good graphics,
> but i think a G4 on his arm at the Cat and Fiddle would look strange.
> maybe he needs to raise his aspirations a bit as to what else he can get
> out of the computer...

It won't works Suzanne, that G4 wants him all to himself.
What do you think "Wide to Receive" was all about?

> no, i've changed my mind again...

"yes I did. Maladjusted will remain my last album"

> try looking at it oddly...

My brain won't let me. Sometimes I wish I wouldn't have one, it would make
things much easier.

> true dat.

> see? yeah. its those years that you are basically homeless and out
> partying all the time because you don't have a real job anyway that its no
> big step to try and form a band and regard it as a serious venture.

three years of piano lessons as a child, have taken all the wind out of my sails.
I feel my whole life is behind me.

> humming?

> its time to raise yourself back up again.

It's sad how some people's mood change in here, in accordance to
the current state of Morrissey's career.
Some people here are happy when he gets signed, then get depressed when
he unsigns. Other ones, oddly enough, react completely the opposite way.

[suzanne]

> World War II began because too many Germans were unemployed, it's a fact.
> I fear, a third one is at the gate.

those pesky germans. isn't football good enough to keep them preoccupied?

> If you say so, Dr. Suzanne, M.D.

> Is that an offer?



> It won't works Suzanne, that G4 wants him all to himself.
> What do you think "Wide to Receive" was all about?

oh i know what wide to receive was all about.

> "yes I did. Maladjusted will remain my last album"

"until the next album.."

> My brain won't let me. Sometimes I wish I wouldn't have one, it would make
> things much easier.

that's OK. i strain to look at things normally.

> three years of piano lessons as a child, have taken all the wind out of my
> sails.
> I feel my whole life is behind me.

its really tiring, i agree. i'm still tired from all of the years that i played clarinet. *whew*

> It's sad how some people's mood change in here, in accordance to
> the current state of Morrissey's career.
> Some people here are happy when he gets signed, then get depressed when
> he unsigns. Other ones, oddly enough, react completely the opposite way.

maybe they are afraid of the future.

[nonesoever]

> those pesky germans. isn't football good enough to keep them preoccupied?

It's world domination they're after, football is just a diversion.

>

Ask him, he won't say no, how could he? (he's not getting any younger)
It seems that with time he losses some of his old principles and
acquires new and tiresome ones.

> oh i know what wide to receive was all about.

I'm not responsive to whatever it is you're suggesting. Yuck!

> "until the next album.."

Love, peace and a new album, maybe in the next world.

> that's OK. i strain to look at things normally.

It's hard to shed 50 IQ points just like that.
It takes years of practice to get it right.
I envy those who are born like that, they don't know half of it.
It's a burden being intelligent these days.

> its really tiring, i agree. i'm still tired from all of the years that i
> played clarinet. *whew*

You get requests for "Lifeguard drowning, Girl Sleeping"?
I personally love the clarinet part in "Whatever Happens".

> maybe they are afraid of the future.

Aren't we all?
In regards to Morrissey, I believe that after 6 years without an album, people
aren't too keen on seeing it coming out.
They're afraid the album won't turn out well.
The bigger the expectations, the greater the fall.
or to quote Oasis "the higher that you climb, the longer you full" (ingenious)

[suzanne]

> It's world domination they're after, football is just a diversion.

too bloody for me.

> Ask him, he won't say no, how could he? (he's not getting any younger)
> It seems that with time he losses some of his old principles and
> acquires new and tiresome ones.

hey, that's something to look forward to...are you sure its not opening up another can of worms if i do...?

i'm kinda shy...

> I'm not responsive to whatever it is you're suggesting. Yuck!

he suggested it...

> Love, peace and a new album, maybe in the next world.

> It's hard to shed 50 IQ points just like that.
> It takes years of practice to get it right.
> I envy those who are born like that, they don't know half of it.
> It's a burden being intelligent these days.

but they are painful to watch...but fun.

> You get requests for "Lifeguard drowning, Girl Sleeping"?
> I personally love the clarinet part in "Whatever Happens".

never gotten one. but i don't know anyone who knows enough about moz to even think about either of those songs.

> Aren't we all?
> In regards to Morrissey, I believe that after 6 years without an album,
> people
> aren't too keen on seeing it coming out.
> They're afraid the album won't turn out well.

well, maybe. but its also a good way to surprise people.

> The bigger the expectations, the greater the fall.
> or to quote Oasis "the higher that you climb, the longer you
> full" (ingenious)

i dont get that.

[Mozzerian Sucks Ass]

...dude, Suzanne is really beautiful. She kicks ass.

[nonesoever]

> too bloody for me.

What football? or world war?

> hey, that's something to look forward to...are you sure its not opening up
> another can of worms if i do...?

So what if you do?

> i'm kinda shy...

You are? you don't seem to be. well, but writing on in front of a computer, shielded from the outside world, could have explained it.
How did I miss that?

> he suggested it...

That's the way you interpreted it.
I interpreted it in a completely innocent way.

> but they are painful to watch...but fun.

Like rats in a laboratory. I bet they think the same about us.

> never gotten one. but i don't know anyone who knows enough about moz to
> even think about either of those songs.

So what is the very first song anyone, who learns how to play the clarinet, plays?

> well, maybe. but its also a good way to surprise people.

Morrissey's actions have come to be, somewhat expected.

> i dont get that.

Sorry, it meant to say "The higher that you climb, the longer you fall",
hope it makes sense now.
I think it's funny and suits Oasis perfectly.

[nonesoever]

> ...dude, Suzanne is really beautiful. She kicks ass.

your point being?
you should tell her that.

[suzanne]

> What football? or world war?

tennis

> So what if you do?

i have another question: how do you know all of this?

> You are? you don't seem to be. well, but writing on in front of a
> computer, shielded from the outside world, could have explained it.
> How did I miss that?

its quite easy to, i guess. two different people in the same body...

> That's the way you interpreted it.
> I interpreted it in a completely innocent way.

did i?

> Like rats in a laboratory. I bet they think the same about us.

people always overestimate their own intelligence. i know this one guy in particular who thinks he's kid genius, even though he acts like he belongs in the "special" classes.

> So what is the very first song anyone, who learns how to play the
> clarinet, plays?

mary had a little lamb. it has a range of 3 notes.

> Morrissey's actions have come to be, somewhat expected.

i don't know. i think he wakes up in a new world every day.

> Sorry, it meant to say "The higher that you climb, the longer you
> fall",
> hope it makes sense now.
> I think it's funny and suits Oasis perfectly.

they've still got a ways

[nonesoever]

Glad to hear from you, it's nice to talk to someone sane on here.
well at least borderline.

> tennis

Yes, tennis is indeed a risky sport.
A tennis ball traveling in a speed of 80 mph is dangerous.

> i have another question: how do you know all of this?

I don't. Anyway it seems Morrissey has a new friend, a Husky.
You missed your chance.

> its quite easy to, i guess. two different people in the same body...

who am I speaking to now?

> did i?

yes. It's a song about how a computer would feel, if it was human.
No sexual innuendoes.

> people always overestimate their own intelligence. i know this one guy in
> particular who thinks he's kid genius, even though he acts like he belongs
> in the "special" classes.

I know I do.
Maybe intelligence is not the right word for it.
You know what I mean?

> mary had a little lamb. it has a range of 3 notes.

And what is the most complex piece you can play after 3 years?

> i don't know. i think he wakes up in a new world every day.

besides the fact he doesn't get anymore popular in this new world
and of course nothing really changes except the date.
But you're right a new world every day.

> they've still got a ways

Didn't quite get that.

[suzanne]

> Glad to hear from you, it's nice to talk to someone sane on here.
> well at least borderline.

i didn't know i qualified as sane

> Yes, tennis is indeed a risky sport.
> A tennis ball traveling in a speed of 80 mph is dangerous.

especially when the riots errupt.

> I don't. Anyway it seems Morrissey has a new friend, a Husky.
> You missed your chance.

that's what i figured...

> who am I speaking to now?

i don't know. it all seems the same to me, but i really didn't pick up on it until people started acting afraid of me on the net...and let's not forget the other attention that i got. either way, that's the complete opposite reaction people always had to me up until that point.

> yes. It's a song about how a computer would feel, if it was human.
> No sexual innuendoes.

"plug in, download" etc?

> I know I do.
> Maybe intelligence is not the right word for it.
> You know what I mean?

i don't know what else to call it.

> And what is the most complex piece you can play after 3 years?

hmm. i'm trying to remember what i played back then...especially anything that's identifiable to the public because there is a whole realm of music that's strictly meant for band students as ensembles and solos. i tried to do the Mozart solo that was supposedly in Out of Africa, but i only did a passable job on it, so i wouldn't call it mastery...then again, i think my playing style was probably too agressive and impatient for something like that back then.

> besides the fact he doesn't get anymore popular in this new world
> and of course nothing really changes except the date.
> But you're right a new world every day.

what do you mean he doesn't get any more popular? I think in the UK there is a rebirth of a frenzy. how else would he make covers of magazines if nobody cared? they could put Gwen Stefani on it again if they wanted.

> Didn't quite get that.

er, i don't either.

what was that about? i had just woken up.

[nonesoever]

> i didn't know i qualified as sane

I said you were borderline ...

> especially when the riots errupt.

Tennis is a game of intense emotions. That's why it takes 6 hours
to resolve. It's like a session with a shrink.

> that's what i figured...

don't loose faith, that Husky may have a little "accident".

> i don't know. it all seems the same to me, but i really didn't pick up on
> it until people started acting afraid of me on the net...and let's not
> forget the other attention that i got. either way, that's the complete
> opposite reaction people always had to me up until that point.

People here are mad about you. Suzanne this, Suzanne that, just
look at the post above ("Hey man...").
Maybe they confuse you with the other you.

> "plug in, download" etc?

of course. Are you messing with me?

> i don't know what else to call it.

I think it's the desire not to conform and resist all
of today's dictations.
And to think instead of being told what to think.

> hmm. i'm trying to remember what i played back then...especially anything
> that's identifiable to the public because there is a whole realm of music
> that's strictly meant for band students as ensembles and solos. i tried to
> do the Mozart solo that was supposedly in Out of Africa, but i only did a
> passable job on it, so i wouldn't call it mastery...then again, i think my
> playing style was probably too agressive and impatient for something like
> that back then.

I bet aggressive playing on the clarinet is not a pretty sight or sound.

> what do you mean he doesn't get any more popular? I think in the UK there
> is a rebirth of a frenzy. how else would he make covers of magazines if
> nobody cared? they could put Gwen Stefani on it again if they wanted.

I don't think rebirth. It was always there.
There are people in the media in the UK, who like him
and they only needed an excuse.

> er, i don't either.

> what was that about? i had just woken up.

Maybe if you read the posts on this board, first thing
after you wake up, they make sense.

[suzanne]

> I said you were borderline ...

*whew*

> Tennis is a game of intense emotions. That's why it takes 6 hours
> to resolve. It's like a session with a shrink.

are there riots at the shrinks office as well?

> don't loose faith, that Husky may have a little "accident".

is it going to wet the floor? that's a good possibility. after all it is a dog. sure, OK. we'll wait.

its probabley trained to sic nosey fans

> People here are mad about you.

are they? all i see is mozzerian going on about his usual shit.

>Suzanne this, Suzanne that, just
> look at the post above ("Hey man...").

you mean that person was taking the piss?

> Maybe they confuse you with the other you.

yeah, the non-threatening and boring person in the corner...

> of course. Are you messing with me?

er..

> I think it's the desire not to conform and resist all
> of today's dictations.
> And to think instead of being told what to think.

oh i don't know about that. i discover about 97% of things because somebody else dragged me along.

> I bet aggressive playing on the clarinet is not a pretty sight or sound.

not like that...but more like what boz did on the song "whatever happens i love you.." and not that i would play mozart like that, but i just kinda blowed through it.

still, i wasn't really being taught the right way to play my instrument for many years....that, or i didn't want to listen

> I don't think rebirth. It was always there.
> There are people in the media in the UK, who like him
> and they only needed an excuse.

maybe, it was kinda quiet there for a while.

> Maybe if you read the posts on this board, first thing
> after you wake up, they make sense.

or after lots of booze

[nonesoever]

> *whew*

> are there riots at the shrinks office as well?

yes there are. but most of the time the patients are too
doped to resist.

> is it going to wet the floor? that's a good possibility. after all it is a
> dog. sure, OK. we'll wait.

with the veggie food its eating ...

> its probably trained to sic nosey fans

Yeah, I guess Morrissey is afraid of the stalkers. but if Morrissey trained that dog, it would probably run away at the sight of one.

I read that its strongest natural instinct is to pull.
Morrissey probably needed something to pull him out of the house every day.

> are they? all i see is mozzerian going on about his usual shit.

people are raving about you, you have numerous admirers.
mozzerian? - you know what they say about love and hate relationships.

> you mean that person was taking the piss?

was he? he fooled me.

> yeah, the non-threatening and boring person in the corner...

twins

> er..

> oh i don't know about that. i discover about 97% of things because
> somebody else dragged me along.

But you get dragged along because you think you should, not because
anyone told you to, right?

> not like that...but more like what boz did on the song "whatever
> happens i love you.." and not that i would play mozart like that, but
> i just kinda blowed through it.

"I kinda blowed through it" I guess Boz isn't too please with what
you are saying.

> still, i wasn't really being taught the right way to play my instrument
> for many years....that, or i didn't want to listen

Deafen to advice? or did your instructor taught you how to play the drums?

> maybe, it was kinda quiet there for a while.

He hasn't given them a "good" excuse.

> or after lots of booze

that will do. everything makes sense after a lot of booze.

[suzanne]

> yes there are. but most of the time the patients are too
> doped to resist.

how can you have a riot with just one person?

> with the veggie food its eating ...

"aw, he left me a little gift again..."

> Yeah, I guess Morrissey is afraid of the stalkers. but if Morrissey
> trained that dog, it would probably run away at the sight of one.

it would knock the phone over and call a lawyer

> I read that its strongest natural instinct is to pull.
> Morrissey probably needed something to pull him out of the house every
> day.

or maybe he got tired of talking to himself

> people are raving about you, you have numerous admirers.

you mean the oddities around here that have been posting stuff as of recent?

> mozzerian? - you know what they say about love and hate relationships.

he wants the one he doesn't want?

> was he? he fooled me.

they're sneaky like that.

> twins

> But you get dragged along because you think you should, not because
> anyone told you to, right?

i go because i have nothing better to do!

> "I kinda blowed through it" I guess Boz isn't too please with
> what
> you are saying.

does he read or care? if he did, he'd probably say, "yeah, but who's the one who earns their living in music, you cow..."

even though you completely put words in my mouth. :P

but my point was trying to explain that the clarinet can be used for more than champagne music.

and that i can play mozart badly....

> Deafen to advice? or did your instructor taught you how to play the drums?

the instructor COULD play drums. that was the problem.

> He hasn't given them a "good" excuse.

what about a bad one?

> that will do. everything makes sense after a lot of booze.

i don't claim to know

[nonesoever]

> how can you have a riot with just one person?

The shrink brings all his friends round.

> "aw, he left me a little gift again..."

That's what his stalkers leave him, every time they visit.

> it would knock the phone over and call a lawyer

Sweet Like a Saint Bernard dog for the disturbed.

> or maybe he got tired of talking to himself

he communicates with himself only by fax.

> you mean the oddities around here that have been posting stuff as of
> recent?

yes, who else?

> he wants the one he doesn't want?

When a guy starts saying about a woman, that she's a lesbian,
that's when you know he wants and can't have her.
Except, if she really is a lesbian.

> they're sneaky like that.

Messing with the unsuspecting-innocent people.
They would make terrific lawyers.

> i go because i have nothing better to do!

but you choose not to have something better to do.

> does he read or care? if he did, he'd probably say, "yeah, but who's
> the one who earns their living in music, you cow..."

He probably does read what you write, but I don't know if he cares.
I hope he does earn his living from music. Something I doubt.

> even though you completely put words in my mouth. :P

I can do that? WOW.

> but my point was trying to explain that the clarinet can be used for more
> than champagne music.

Yes, you can stab someone with it.

> and that i can play mozart badly....

Most people won't even notice.

> the instructor COULD play drums. that was the problem.

But could he play the clarinet?

> what about a bad one?

There's more than enough, bad excuses to write, about everybody.
Morrissey's is nothing special.

> i don't claim to know

I don't too, that's what I was told.
But drinking bacteria can be good for ya, right?

[suzanne]

> The shrink brings all his friends round.

hooligans who aren't ready for stadiums...

> That's what his stalkers leave him, every time they visit.

i thought they would help out with clutter by also taking something every time they leave...you know, like a car.

> Sweet Like a Saint Bernard dog for the disturbed.

> he communicates with himself only by fax.

"he never calls, he never writes..."

> yes, who else?

yeah, but who are these people???

> When a guy starts saying about a woman, that she's a lesbian,
> that's when you know he wants and can't have her.
> Except, if she really is a lesbian.

and he's gay! its perfect...

> but you choose not to have something better to do.

do i?

> He probably does read what you write, but I don't know if he cares.

one would lead to the other...in theory. so he's probably out ironing right now

> I hope he does earn his living from music. Something I doubt.

i haven't heard anything about a day job as an accountant

> I can do that? WOW.

> Yes, you can stab someone with it.

its not a hunting spear!

> Most people won't even notice.

> But could he play the clarinet?

not exactly

> There's more than enough, bad excuses to write, about everybody.
> Morrissey's is nothing special.

but he comes up with some creative lulus that most people wouldn't think of getting involved with.