Son of a Bush pt.1
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You wanna see some funny shit, go to foxnews.com, click on the Fox Fans thingie, register, and play the video of Janeane Garafolo getting ripped a new asshole on Fox & Friends earlier this week.
I also saw another article at another site talking about how many of the stars protesting the coming war are phoney. For example, Sheryl Crow actually flew with Hillary Clinton to go entertain the troops who removed Milosevic when Clinton was prez. And Garafolo was quoted as saying "it just wasn't hip back then" to protest military actions. LOL! You see, this is exactly what I said about 3 months ago.
Anyway, Bush made a pretty good speech last night. Even called once again for a democratic Palestinian state.
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> You wanna see some funny shit, go to foxnews.com, click on the Fox Fans
> thingie, register, and play the video of Janeane Garafolo getting ripped a
> new asshole on Fox & Friends earlier this week.
> I also saw another article at another site talking about how many of the
> stars protesting the coming war are phoney. For example, Sheryl Crow
> actually flew with Hillary Clinton to go entertain the troops who removed
> Milosevic when Clinton was prez. And Garafolo was quoted as saying
> "it just wasn't hip back then" to protest military actions. LOL!
> You see, this is exactly what I said about 3 months ago.
> Anyway, Bush made a pretty good speech last night. Even called once again
> for a democratic Palestinian state.
Thanks Loafing. Did you see the video Hannity and Colmes showed about the protesters. You know the protest organized by the world's workers party. Some guy suggested we send in James Bond to deal with Saddam.
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> I also saw another article at another site talking about how many of the
> stars protesting the coming war are phoney. For example, Sheryl Crow
> actually flew with Hillary Clinton to go entertain the troops who removed
> Milosevic when Clinton was prez. And Garafolo was quoted as saying
> "it just wasn't hip back then" to protest military actions. LOL!
> You see, this is exactly what I said about 3 months ago.
Yeah...one can only find hypocrisy on the liberal side.
Not like all of the chickenhawk republicans who refused to serve when it was their time, (or went AWOL in the NAtional Guard), who are now preaching war. Republicans who have the idiocy to call a Senator who lost two limbs fighting in a war they avoided..."unpatriotic". Or the fact that you are quoting hypocrisy from Faux News...who itself claims to be "fair and balanced" and is so far to the right that they make Rush Limbaugh nervous.
Besides...didn't the UN back the actions against Milosevic? The whole Bush administration is "phoney".
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Ha! Ha! Ha! That was fabulous! And sadly, so so true!
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> Yeah...one can only find hypocrisy on the liberal side.
> Not like all of the chickenhawk republicans who refused to serve when it
> was their time, (or went AWOL in the NAtional Guard), who are now
> preaching war. Republicans who have the idiocy to call a Senator who lost
> two limbs fighting in a war they avoided..."unpatriotic". Or the
> fact that you are quoting hypocrisy from Faux News...who itself claims to
> be "fair and balanced" and is so far to the right that they make
> Rush Limbaugh nervous.
I'm glad you agree that many of the anti-war protestors are hypocrites.
> Besides...didn't the UN back the actions against Milosevic? The whole Bush
> administration is "phoney".
Um, no. Russia vetoed, so we had to intervene to end genocide and bring Milosevic to justice without UN sanction. Sound familiar???? I thought so.
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> You wanna see some funny shit, go to foxnews.com, click on the Fox Fans
> thingie, register, and play the video of Janeane Garafolo getting ripped a
> new asshole on Fox & Friends earlier this week.
> I also saw another article at another site talking about how many of the
> stars protesting the coming war are phoney. For example, Sheryl Crow
> actually flew with Hillary Clinton to go entertain the troops who removed
> Milosevic when Clinton was prez. And Garafolo was quoted as saying
> "it just wasn't hip back then" to protest military actions. LOL!
> You see, this is exactly what I said about 3 months ago.
C'mon Loaf! Just because you protest the war does not mean that you can't support the troops. They are just doing what they are told, doing a job, it's not their fault that their boss is a shortsighted jackass. I know for me I can't stand to see these soldiers leave their family and put their lives on the line for an unjustified war.
> Anyway, Bush made a pretty good speech last night. Even called once again
> for a democratic Palestinian state.
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> C'mon Loaf! Just because you protest the war does not mean that you can't
> support the troops. They are just doing what they are told, doing a job,
> it's not their fault that their boss is a shortsighted jackass. I know for
> me I can't stand to see these soldiers leave their family and put their
> lives on the line for an unjustified war.
No, Crow was a war supporter in Kosovo. Hmm, I thought her t-shirt said "war is not the answer"????
Short-sighted? Did you hear his speech last night? Not a damn thing short-sighted about it. It was an idealistic, pro-democratic vision for changing the course of the world's most troubled region.
Oh, I tuned in to Donahue tonight and he was rerunning Dennis Miller's appearance. Now there's a celeb who knows what the fuck he's talking about.
Finally!
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> Thanks Loafing. Did you see the video Hannity and Colmes showed about the
> protesters. You know the protest organized by the world's workers party.
> Some guy suggested we send in James Bond to deal with Saddam.
No, I don't like Hannity and Colmes much. But I'm well aware of the evil people who organize some of these leave-poor-Saddam-alone protests.
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> I'm glad you agree that many of the anti-war protestors are hypocrites.
Who isn't a hypocrite on some level please raise your hand. I'll bet those stories are bullshit on some level just because of the timing. Who's not to say that those comments, if true, were not taken out of context? The right wing always singles out people and tells bullshit fabrication smear stories. Like the one about that Veterans Mother group or whatever that went to NY and Hillary wouldn't meet with them. They were denying it on their own website and the sheep still circulated that story so that appeared in major news outlets.
> Um, no. Russia vetoed, so we had to intervene to end genocide and bring
> Milosevic to justice without UN sanction. Sound familiar???? I thought so.
Actually it doesn't sound familiar...but I'm not calling you a liar on it because I would have to do research and I have a bad memory. So who backed Russia's veto then? Was this the only vote and only resolution regarding this? Why were there UN peacekeepers in Bosnia if the UN was supposed to stay out of it thanks to Russia's veto? Did the cursed French drag us into that war or something?
Peace-keeping is a job for smelly Europeans.
The thing that gets me about the whole Bosnia thing is that it's the same people in the Pentagon and State Department who didn't want to get involved in Bosnia as it wasn't in "America's interest", who were running around calling it "Madeline's War" (imagine the shame - being dragged into a war by a WOMAN and for typical feminine HUMANITARIAN reasons) who are precisely the same people who are now beating the war drum in Iraq the loudest.
There is this ridiculous pretence that the war in Iraq will be all about humanitarian motives, and concern for the people of Iraq when in reality it's all about American interests. Americans couldn't stomach the prospect of their soldiers dying for humanitarian causes on the streets of Mogadishu. Clinton wouldn't risk ground troops in Bosnia as a result of this. The Americans didn't hang around to provide security in Afghanistan - that role was left to the Brits and Germans.
Fact is America has no history of military activity in anything but its own interest, and this coming war will be the mother of all such examples.
The war for peace.............
> Anyway, Bush made a pretty good speech last night. Even called once again
> for a democratic Palestinian state.
Well, he can afford to do that because he knows there's naff all chance of it eventuating, considering the government Sharon's now put together.
So now, we need war to bring peace to the middle east. Now remind me, what was it that radicalised a young Saudi called Osama against the US and his own government, oh yes - the use of bases in his country (holiest land in Islam blah, blah) as a staging post for the murder of Iraqi (muslim) civilians, children, etc.
I mean does anyone honestly imagine people in the middle east will turn around and say "oh look - the Americans have installed a democracy in Baghdad - we should all think about doing the same"? There are so many political uncertainties ie the kurdish situation, the shia/sunni divide and the propensity of Iran to intervene if it feels shia Iraqis are being discriminated against, the radicalisation of conipracy theorists who will see the new Baghdad regime as a puppet regime, and part of an Israeli/US conspiracy to control the region, the already-existing divisions and rivalries in the Iraqi opposition. In many ways, a war in Iraq will IMO play into the hands of the hardline Islamists, and probably entrench existing undemocratic regimes in an attempt either to crack down or accomodate radical elements.
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> No, Crow was a war supporter in Kosovo. Hmm, I thought her t-shirt said
> "war is not the answer"????
> Short-sighted? Did you hear his speech last night? Not a damn thing
> short-sighted about it. It was an idealistic, pro-democratic vision for
> changing the course of the world's most troubled region.
> Oh, I tuned in to Donahue tonight and he was rerunning Dennis Miller's
> appearance. Now there's a celeb who knows what the fuck he's talking
> about.
> Finally!
Dennis Miller??? Whatever cha-chi.
I don't know what her T-shirt said, I didn't see the program your talking about but not everyone is as black and white as you. Some can support one war for whatever reason and then not supprt another for another reason. It does happen. People have also been known to change their minds, humans are crazy that way!
And Bush IS short sighted because for all of his talk about how important it is to go to war, not much is said about how they'll go about rebuilding Iraq and what the implications of it after all is said and done. He has not discussed how the Iraqi people will be better off and how the American's both in Iraq and America will be safer from further terrorism. Winning the war will be inconsequential if we fail to win the peace. It seems to me that if he wanted to gain more support for this war, which he desperately needs both from the U.S and U.N he could talk more about post war plans, but he doesn't.
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