Akron, OH - Akron Civic Theatre (June 29, 2015) post-show

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Setlist:

Suedehead / Alma Matters / First Of The Gang To Die / Ganglord / Staircase At The University / Speedway / World Peace Is None Of Your Business / Kiss Me A Lot / I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris / Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before / Yes, I Am Blind / Istanbul / Neal Cassady Drops Dead / The Bullfighter Dies / Now My Heart Is Full / I Will See You In Far-Off Places / The World Is Full Of Crashing Bores / Meat Is Murder / Everyday Is Like Sunday // What She Said

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  • Morrissey Shows Why He's a Singular Talent by Jeff Niesel, photos by Joe Kleon (25 total) - Cleveland Scene. Link posted by an anonymous person.

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Do I seem like I would have shouted that? I am in Massachusetts...and I posted something peacefully. An opinion. I'm sorry only Morrissey is allowed to have an opinion and it's always right?

It took me a second to see something I didn't want to see, I've taken my children to Morrissey concerts in the past as well. And as far as reviewing Morrissey concerts, I've been to several and I have never, not once, been disturbed. As Morrissey concerts usually are peaceful I had no reason to believe this would occur.

I love him, I'm a huge fan and always have been. But I dont agree with this way of doing it. My opinion :)

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Also, I avoided reading about his concert so I'd be surprised by the set list. I'm sure I'm not the only one.


the reality is very disturbing.



p.s. this is peaceful post.
 
It was a fabulous set; the band was so good too and the acoustics in the theatre outstanding. I think Moz had a cold -- he was sneezing a lot, but the show went on! The pre show video was outstanding - the vintage video homage to the Dolls was priceless. Who was the woman on the video after the Dolls? If you are going to a future show, tell your friends to go, who knows when he'll be back. Great use of video throughout the show to emphasize his convictions. I'm really glad I saw him - he's in the same class as Bowie, Bryan Ferry, Bono Rod Stewart as a performer / crooner.

totally agreed - i LOVE the video before the show. in some ways, it's better and gets the crowd more excited than a sub-par opening act. he used the dolls clip last time he toured, too. i got turned on last time to shocking blue's "mighty joe". i was thrilled to hear "nutbush city limits" this time around - i hadn't heard that since i was like 7! and the clip of ramones doing "loudmouth" was excellent.
 
Concert was awesome. Loved the song set and Moz delivered each song with his unique passion for the lyrics. Our front row seats were great. The old theatre added to the ambiance. Unfortunately, I had to and pass out and miss the last two songs. Meat is Murder video got the best of me this time, along with the heat. Thank you emt's for taking good care of me. See you another day Morrissey!
 
You're not the one who yelled "Asshole!" during "Meat is Murder," are you?

As for kids being there, it's a parent's job to make sure a venue and show are kid friendly. It takes seconds to research anything in this day and age. It also takes seconds to close your eyes (my kid did at MSG).

I am not a parent nor do I have children so I almost don't want to weigh in on this--BUT as far as the Gandlord footage is some of it (and much of the more disturbing parts like the Walter Scott shooting) has been on the news. Unless people live in a bubble they really shouldn't be seeing much of that footage for the first time and I suspect their kids have probably seen it.
 
Well said, I agree with that. But to be honest I can't handle the imagery myself when they show the police brutality on the news. And really it's not just about the children. At the show I was at the crowd waking out of the theater, the comments I heard were not very positive. You know that rush after you've seen a great Morrissey show and everyone is raving...the comments I heard were all about the footage. Even reading the review s on ticket master were negative and about people not being able to enjoy the show. My husband and I counted the days until his show and the vibe from the crowd was disappointing and I just wonder if things would have been different without it. I.don't disagree with Morrissey but I feel it was not the right place to show full on animal slaughter. But you are right, kids wewill see it somewhere, I.just don't know if anybody expected to see it at what has always been a peacefu Morrissey concert. GGwar, maybe...for shock. I was shocked!
 
Well said, I agree with that. But to be honest I can't handle the imagery myself when they show the police brutality on the news. And really it's not just about the children. At the show I was at the crowd waking out of the theater, the comments I heard were not very positive. You know that rush after you've seen a great Morrissey show and everyone is raving...the comments I heard were all about the footage. Even reading the review s on ticket master were negative and about people not being able to enjoy the show. My husband and I counted the days until his show and the vibe from the crowd was disappointing and I just wonder if things would have been different without it. I.don't disagree with Morrissey but I feel it was not the right place to show full on animal slaughter. But you are right, kids wewill see it somewhere, I.just don't know if anybody expected to see it at what has always been a peacefu Morrissey concert. GGwar, maybe...for shock. I was shocked!

I'm taking my daughter to an upcoming show. She's seven, and adores Morrissey. (Blame me for playing him for her while still in utero via giant headphones.) We've already discussed the footage, and talked about how I don't want her to watch during Gang lord or MIM, and what kind of footage it is. It's a parents job to be well informed, and for those who aren't? It takes a second to adjust tactic in the moment.
 
That's the point; the videos are meant to be disturbing. Obviously, people can look away or close their eyes if they don't want to witness human cruelty, but if just one person is so disturbed that he or she commits to making a change, then Morrissey has done something positive. Of course, it's just easier to pretend these horrible atrocities never happen. Also, the Meat is Murder video has been played consistently on the past few tours, so I'm not sure why people are surprised to see it. As for children being at the concert, it's up to the parents to research the show beforehand to make sure that it is an appropriate event for their child to see.

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Rubbish. When is Morrissey going to make the change and publicly commit to a Vegan lifestyle which is compatible with the lyrics and video footage accompanying 'Meat Is Murder'. He is a gross hypocrite for lambasting others for eating meat whilst he refuses to confirm he has abandoned eating Corpsetarian cheese. He should be put on trial for #CrimesAgainstAnimals The fact that the mother cows whose milk he stole for 3 decades for his Cheezy Panini crap didn't get slaughtered until they stop feeding mucus to Morrissey isn't relevant: #MilkIsMurder #MorrisseyIsMurder

He has run out of time, it looks like the final mixes of #VegAnarchyInTheUK are complete and, as it stands, both Johnny Rotten/Lydon and Morrissey walk the plank. The punk eejit Lydon for butter advertising and his wannabe follow-on 'fake rebel yell' protege, Morrissey, for his Cheesetarianism. f*** Lydon. f*** Morrissey. Both charlatans, as was the entire punk/post-punk charade. When #VegAnarchyInTheUK drops on 9/11 next year, both these wankers will get their come-uppance. Unless, of course, The Annointed One changes his mind, but that's unlikely. The fatwa against Morrissey's career after he slighted and abused David Banda for his crime of being an African orphan was lifted, at great effort, after the release of 'Istanbul'. But this is the final judgement and it has been passed. He flunked Vegan Boot Camp with BrummieBoy and know he's going to 'face the music'. Over the Sex Pistols gig at Bogarts, Patti Smith at the Odeon, his decades of lying hypocrisy and much more. But Lydon is in even worse trouble.....and he f***ing knows it..... "the great Rock'n'Roll Swindle" was the appropriation of Sabbath riffs by the Sex Pistols which BrummieBoy challenged at Bogarts. McClaren and Lydon (along with the fluffers at the NME/Melody Maker/Sounds colluded in this fraudulent re-write of the absurd cult of 'punk'. BB kept his counsel for 4 decades but "it's time the tale was told" on this and on much more. BB is dead now, his meat-space mind-body is vacant awaiting the full arrival of The Annointed One. We thought that would be Midsummer, but it appears it will now happen on 9/11, BB's birthday. BB is in his crypt, asleep. He rose from the dead after Morrissey's self-executing last interview where he attempted to both conflate Veganism with Vegetarianism and to appropriate Vegan radicalism into his brand, Morrissey Inc. Ditto his absurd references to that other idiot, Gary Yourofsky. But BB did what he had to do. He gave Morrissey a final chance to escape the metaphorical axe, but clearly, Morrissey wishes to be remembered as a charlatan and a Crank-Fraud. So mote it be.

Cue the usual bleating from The Best Troll On The Payroll about how this should be taken to the 'serious press'. Nonsense. They too are in on the fraud, they all have an finan cial and career investment in Ye Olde Punk Rock Mythologies to sell memoirs, gig tickets and the rest of the Bread'n'Circus nonsense which Morrissey is in up to his neck. f*** Morrissey. f*** Lydon. Let's see if Morrissey claims he wasn't at Bogarts that night. After all, he never went to Birmingham in the 70s, did he? Never. That's why he doesn't recount any such visits, other than the dubious account of his visit for Patti Smith at the Odeon. It's his 'Autobiography' after all, not 'Autofiction' like wot BB was always doing here, there and everywhere.

It's all very sad. If Morrissey had lived his public life in sync with his stated principles then he would now be unassailable as a cultural figure for the next centuries, but his alabaster will come crashing down alongside Lydons. They both seem to wish this destruction upon themselves. Go figure. In accusing others of being guilty of Meat Is Murder and showing SlaughterPorn at his gigs, whilst eating #MilkIsMurder cheese and refusing to confirm he has become Vegan, by failing to publicly confess his #CrimesAgainstCows and make suitable Atonement, he has doomed himself. There is no appeal against this sentence. His Legacy will be as a tragi-comic clown/Klovn and we all know about "The Tears Of A Clown". No wonder he's been so depressed since re-inventing himself as "Morrissey", as it's all been a "ha! ha! charade, you are" bullshit fest. The Annointed One will not hesitate to publicly avenge the animals who died so Morrissey could stuff his stupid gob with cheese whilst lecturing other's from a stage-pulpit, dressed as a priest. And he compares eating meat to paedophilia? What sex crime is appropriate for eating Cheese, Morrissey? It's enforced #CalfFellationForFarmers In terror, having been torn from their mothers so you could eat Cheese, the Agri-Fascist Farmers delight in offering up their cocks instead of the terrified calf's mother's teat. And the calf in his distress will suck at anything to quell the terror of hearing his mother's screams in the distance, in darkness, awaiting being turned into veal, white meat impregnated with Farmer Gile's spunk. And if you don't think this is commonplace activity amongst the Agro-Fascist Farmer 'good aul boys' all over the world: you clearly have never spent time on a farm. f*** you Morrissey.

best
The Anarchic Archivist in Kobenhavn
about to fly to Utretch for some MAMIL #TDF fun with Kraftwerk
 
Rubbish. When is Morrissey going to make the change and publicly commit to a Vegan lifestyle which is compatible with the lyrics and video footage accompanying 'Meat Is Murder'. He is a gross hypocrite for lambasting others for eating meat whilst he refuses to confirm he has abandoned eating Corpsetarian cheese. He should be put on trial for #CrimesAgainstAnimals The fact that the mother cows whose milk he stole for 3 decades for his Cheezy Panini crap didn't get slaughtered until they stop feeding mucus to Morrissey isn't relevant: #MilkIsMurder #MorrisseyIsMurder

He has run out of time, it looks like the final mixes of #VegAnarchyInTheUK are complete and, as it stands, both Johnny Rotten/Lydon and Morrissey walk the plank. The punk eejit Lydon for butter advertising and his wannabe follow-on 'fake rebel yell' protege, Morrissey, for his Cheesetarianism. f*** Lydon. f*** Morrissey. Both charlatans, as was the entire punk/post-punk charade. When #VegAnarchyInTheUK drops on 9/11 next year, both these wankers will get their come-uppance. Unless, of course, The Annointed One changes his mind, but that's unlikely. The fatwa against Morrissey's career after he slighted and abused David Banda for his crime of being an African orphan was lifted, at great effort, after the release of 'Istanbul'. But this is the final judgement and it has been passed. He flunked Vegan Boot Camp with BrummieBoy and know he's going to 'face the music'. Over the Sex Pistols gig at Bogarts, Patti Smith at the Odeon, his decades of lying hypocrisy and much more. But Lydon is in even worse trouble.....and he f***ing knows it..... "the great Rock'n'Roll Swindle" was the appropriation of Sabbath riffs by the Sex Pistols which BrummieBoy challenged at Bogarts. McClaren and Lydon (along with the fluffers at the NME/Melody Maker/Sounds colluded in this fraudulent re-write of the absurd cult of 'punk'. BB kept his counsel for 4 decades but "it's time the tale was told" on this and on much more. BB is dead now, his meat-space mind-body is vacant awaiting the full arrival of The Annointed One. We thought that would be Midsummer, but it appears it will now happen on 9/11, BB's birthday. BB is in his crypt, asleep. He rose from the dead after Morrissey's self-executing last interview where he attempted to both conflate Veganism with Vegetarianism and to appropriate Vegan radicalism into his brand, Morrissey Inc. Ditto his absurd references to that other idiot, Gary Yourofsky. But BB did what he had to do. He gave Morrissey a final chance to escape the metaphorical axe, but clearly, Morrissey wishes to be remembered as a charlatan and a Crank-Fraud. So mote it be.

Cue the usual bleating from The Best Troll On The Payroll about how this should be taken to the 'serious press'. Nonsense. They too are in on the fraud, they all have an finan cial and career investment in Ye Olde Punk Rock Mythologies to sell memoirs, gig tickets and the rest of the Bread'n'Circus nonsense which Morrissey is in up to his neck. f*** Morrissey. f*** Lydon. Let's see if Morrissey claims he wasn't at Bogarts that night. After all, he never went to Birmingham in the 70s, did he? Never. That's why he doesn't recount any such visits, other than the dubious account of his visit for Patti Smith at the Odeon. It's his 'Autobiography' after all, not 'Autofiction' like wot BB was always doing here, there and everywhere.

It's all very sad. If Morrissey had lived his public life in sync with his stated principles then he would now be unassailable as a cultural figure for the next centuries, but his alabaster will come crashing down alongside Lydons. They both seem to wish this destruction upon themselves. Go figure. In accusing others of being guilty of Meat Is Murder and showing SlaughterPorn at his gigs, whilst eating #MilkIsMurder cheese and refusing to confirm he has become Vegan, by failing to publicly confess his #CrimesAgainstCows and make suitable Atonement, he has doomed himself. There is no appeal against this sentence. His Legacy will be as a tragi-comic clown/Klovn and we all know about "The Tears Of A Clown". No wonder he's been so depressed since re-inventing himself as "Morrissey", as it's all been a "ha! ha! charade, you are" bullshit fest. The Annointed One will not hesitate to publicly avenge the animals who died so Morrissey could stuff his stupid gob with cheese whilst lecturing other's from a stage-pulpit, dressed as a priest. And he compares eating meat to paedophilia? What sex crime is appropriate for eating Cheese, Morrissey? It's enforced #CalfFellationForFarmers In terror, having been torn from their mothers so you could eat Cheese, the Agri-Fascist Farmers delight in offering up their cocks instead of the terrified calf's mother's teat. And the calf in his distress will suck at anything to quell the terror of hearing his mother's screams in the distance, in darkness, awaiting being turned into veal, white meat impregnated with Farmer Gile's spunk. And if you don't think this is commonplace activity amongst the Agro-Fascist Farmer 'good aul boys' all over the world: you clearly have never spent time on a farm. f*** you Morrissey.

best
The Anarchic Archivist in Kobenhavn
about to fly to Utretch for some MAMIL #TDF fun with Kraftwerk


f*** off Handy, you boring c***
 
This was my last show of four on this leg (I think, unless I can squeeze in West coast dates!) and I appreciated the change in setlist (yay Yes I am Blind! Stop Me!) and the energy and performance quality of Morrissey and the band. I agree with whomever(s) said it multiple times, I think Morrissey and the band are at the top of their games right now. The momentum is palpable and I get a genuine sense they are enjoying themselves and are proud of their performances. Morrissey's smile after Bullfighter on Fallon said it all for me.

In leaving Philly, MSG, Worcester or Akron, I didn't hear a single person talking about how ruined the show was by any of the footage. I suppose we all hear what we want to hear, but I heard positive reviews, people happy to have seen him whether it be the first or the 50th time. I won't watch the footage on MIM. He's already won me over, I'm already vegetarian. I know what the subject matter is and I can't subject myself to the atrocity. I watch Moz, or Boz, or Jesse or Gustavo, depending on the angle, anywhere but the screen. Find another focal point or close your eyes and appreciate the song. No one is compelling you to watch it. As for the Ganglord footage, it's timely given what's going on in America now, the rash of cop on African American killings, the racism bubbling under the surface. That Moz comes here and addresses that head on is bold and really I'd expect nothing less, him holding us accountable for what we allow to happen here. How's that any different from taking on the politic or royals in the UK or elsewhere? I think I'd question him more if he sang Ganglords with no reference to the shit show that our criminal justice system has become.

Four brilliant shows with Moz and the boys at the top of their game. I'm in a post-show coma now, but I'm sure once I start looking at the YouTube and hopefully get some recordings, it'll help me relive it all.
 
What's the point in going to a concert if you have to close your eyes? We all know Morrisseys beliefs, good for him. Most people I suspect go to be entertained and not mortified. You can take your child, that's completely your choice, for me...I wouldn't again. Your kids will see things in life, but I wouldn't knowingly walk them into it seeing a cows head being severed repeatedly. I myself haven't been desensitized by such things and I refuse to allow my children to be before they hit puberty.

And I dont know about other shows, but I know the people paid a lot more money than the people in the back for what...they opened up the front of the venue to make a general admissions pit. Real fair to those who paid extra for nothing.

I dont feel bumming your audience out is what they came for. If you were able to see it (even accidentally) and continue singing and dancing then I'm sorry, I don't understand you.

And I'm not someone who has attended a Morrissey show for the 1st time, I thought I knew what to expect and the lengths he would go to express his beliefs. I didn't think he would be rude. It is now a week ago since the show and I still feel disappointed. For the people who already dont eat meat, why would they need to see it? And if you eat meat...chances are you're a lifer. It was self indulgent. If I want to see beatings, I'll watch the 11 o'clock news...

Clearly there are Morrissey fans who are biased and this man can do no wrong. For someone who I consider to be a class act, I felt this was as tacky as you can get.

I'm waiting for the stone throwing now because I'm not going to agree with Morrissey and although he's entitled to his opinion, I should go to a show and get what I expected. Someone has already accused me of shouting out "Asshole" at a show I havent even attended. Really, how did you make THAT connection?
 
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You can watch a few YouTube videos, they're posted of him playing First Of The Gang To Die in Worcester, doesn't seem like the usual energy to me. And according to other concert goers, friends, co-workers, friends of friends, they all said the same. I wonder where you were sitting and which way you exited the building? I heard "The guards were a bit rough" and "I still feel like throwing up" "Could have done without the slaughter" I doubt that was selective hearing. I didn't hear one person ranting, everyone walked out glum. I heard no one playing Morrissey songs in the garage either. Totally different vibe than any Morrissey show I've been to.

He did sound terrific though, the songs which weren't tainted by violence in the beginning were great.
 
You can watch a few YouTube videos, they're posted of him playing First Of The Gang To Die in Worcester, doesn't seem like the usual energy to me. And according to other concert goers, friends, co-workers, friends of friends, they all said the same. I wonder where you were sitting and which way you exited the building? I heard "The guards were a bit rough" and "I still feel like throwing up" "Could have done without the slaughter" I doubt that was selective hearing. I didn't hear one person ranting, everyone walked out glum. I heard no one playing Morrissey songs in the garage either. Totally different vibe than any Morrissey show I've been to.

He did sound terrific though, the songs which weren't tainted by violence in the beginning were great.

I was in the pit, with a legitimate pit seat, where the energy was "so lifeless" as you and your friends observed, that people from Row R were jamming themselves in with us to try and get closer, and I still have the bruises around my ribcage from trying to hold my place at the stage against that onslaught of people who were trying to get closer. But yes, you're right, that's the sign of a truly lifeless gig. I exited from front to back and went out to a nearby bar after where there were other showgoers, never heard anyone complain about the videos.

I don't feel Morrissey was "rude" at all. He's doing it his way. Just like Bono does, incessantly, with U2. With him, you can't shut him up, you can't fast forward, you can't ignore it. He goes ON AND ON AND ON. I've been to over 50 U2 shows in my life and I've actually seen Larry Mullen (the drummer) get fed up with Bono's diatribes that he starts playing the drums over him to get the song started. THAT is truly rude and annoying. I've never felt that Moz rubs our faces in his beliefs. Never more than a one-liner (which is usually accurate) and the videos. To each his own. I'll gladly take another Worcester or Akron show whenever I can. Look, you're entitled to your opinion, but don't cast a "the entire gig sucked, my friends said so" when there's plenty of anecdotal evidence to the contrary. That pit wasn't MEANT to be GA, but the rabid fans made it so. All those people so offended by the videos they had to get closer....
 
The pit opened before the show began, we were wondering what everyone was doing. People were walking out of the room, sitting down and turning their backs when Ganglord and MIM played. I was in the back (and chose to stay there) and instead of watching the stage I observed the people around me. Obviously the people who stayed at the bar weren't offended by what they saw and stayed beyond the end of the show. I'm glad people were able to enjoy themselves, I honestly couldn't and my whole point is that I feel the general vibe of the crowd would have been more reminiscent of other shows had they maybe even cut it down to only ONE disturbing video.

Obviously not everyone was offended. Personally, I've never been to a U2 concert but I can see how that would be annoying as well. I can appreciate the initiative in taking your role as a public figure and making a change. I don't disagree with Morrissey at all. I do think it was in bad taste to show such footage though. The fact that they were handing out DVD's at the end of the show for Glass Houses, fine. Meat Free venue, fine. Do I want to see it at the concert, no. That's all. Maybe not everyone felt the way I do but I'm not the only one and to that you cant disagree. Plenty of people were offended while in past shows they were mostly only offended if he didn't show up.
 
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The pit opened before the show began, we were wondering what everyone was doing. People were walking out of the room, sitting down and turning their backs when Ganglord and MIM played. I was in the back (and chose to stay there) and instead of watching the stage I observed the people around me. Obviously the people who stayed at the bar weren't offended by what they saw and stayed beyond the end of the show. I'm glad people were able to enjoy themselves, I honestly couldn't and my whole point is that I feel the general vibe of the crowd would have been more reminiscent of other shows had they maybe even cut it down to only ONE disturbing video.

There were 30 ticketed seats in the pit in Worcester. I walked in as the doors opened and took my seat there. My ticket was for a physical seat in the pit. Anyone in there beyond those 30 crashed the pit.
 
I should go to a show and get what I expected

You are joking, right? You must be joking, otherwise ... I don't even know what to say. There are thousands of people at a concert. Do you realize that everybody expects something completely different? How could Moz please every single audience member? And how should he even know what the audience does expect? Let alone every single audience member? And again I have to say that the film during Meat Is Murder is played since 2011. Since 2011!!!!!! How do you not have noticed?
 
What's the point in going to a concert if you have to close your eyes? We all know Morrisseys beliefs, good for him. Most people I suspect go to be entertained and not mortified. You can take your child, that's completely your choice, for me...I wouldn't again. Your kids will see things in life, but I wouldn't knowingly walk them into it seeing a cows head being severed repeatedly. I myself haven't been desensitized by such things and I refuse to allow my children to be before they hit puberty.

And I dont know about other shows, but I know the people paid a lot more money than the people in the back for what...they opened up the front of the venue to make a general admissions pit. Real fair to those who paid extra for nothing. QUOTE]

I was a member of the pit. Everyone around me including myself all paid FAR MORE than general admission for those tickets (mine was stubhub). Im with you in that tickets are never a fair deal - I tried to get presale tickets the second they went on sale and the best I could get was row p.... just wanted to claify that we weren't some "luck of the draw", we PAID (more than I would for any other show because i've always wanted that moz experience ) for the seats knowingly.
 
I don't expect to feel physically ill....I doubt that's asking to much!
I've heard him since Meat Is Murder on tour, I don't recall this video. It has been something like 5 years since I've attended a Morrissey concert because honestly I don't care much for the last 2 albums and wanted my husband to experience Morrissey. I didn't want to see the set list so I guess that's my own fault for not knowing what to expect.
 
I don't expect to feel physically ill....I doubt that's asking to much!
I've heard him since Meat Is Murder on tour, I don't recall this video. It has been something like 5 years since I've attended a Morrissey concert because honestly I don't care much for the last 2 albums and wanted my husband to experience Morrissey. I didn't want to see the set list so I guess that's my own fault for not knowing what to expect.

Good God! Do you feel physically ill everytime you watch the news? Because there are horrible things happening on this planet right now. If you are shocked by the videos Moz plays then you haven't seen much in your life. But horrible things should be seen because from looking away, they don't GO AWAY.
 
Good God! Do you feel physically ill everytime you watch the news? Because there are horrible things happening on this planet right now. If you are shocked by the videos Moz plays then you haven't seen much in your life. But horrible things should be seen because from looking away, they don't GO AWAY.

This is why Morrissey shows those clips. Certainly gets everyone talking about issues, doesn't it? I love it. Also, I asked my son his take on the "Ganglord" clips and he said, "It's bad stuff and I see it on the news all the time. People should know about it so it can get fixed." If an eight-year-old can figure out why the clips are shown, there is hope for the future.
 
When you watch the news you expect that. I guess no one here see's my point.

I cant comment on your parenting skills, everyone has their own beliefs and techniques but I personally wouldn't have let them watch Gangland and the news does make me sick. Does that mean I dont read the news? A much more favorable approach to catching up on news for many. And as far as not knowing what I have been through, or my husband for that matter, what a bold statement. I know what happens, my husband was beaten by a police officer, he sure didn't appreciate seeing it either. Myself, I have seen enough violence in my life, I'm a rape survivor and had a bad childhood, without asking for it. Sometimes you just want to be happy and some people it's hard to see for many reasons. There is nothing wrong with protesting against police brutality or the cruelty of animals, it is to much for some people for see is all I am saying. Doesn't mean I choose to be ignorant.

I'm sure many people in the audience have faced such things, violence and didn't expect to see it at a concert.
 
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