Warsaw - Stodola (Nov. 19, 2014) post-show

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Set List:


The Queen Is Dead / Speedway / Suedehead / I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris / World Peace Is None Of Your Business / Staircase At The University

set list provided by an anonymous person.



  • Morrissey storms off stage in Poland after just 25 minutes when fan hurls 'extremely offensive and chauvinistic' abuse at him - Daily Mail. Link posted by an anonymous person.

    Excerpt:

    According to event organiser Live Nation, the incident happened because one member of the audience hurled ‘extremely offensive and chauvinistic’ abuse at the artist.

    Although it has not been confirmed, it has been claimed the remarks stem from Morrissey’s recent cancer diagnosis.



    Live Nation Polska Facebook post, excerpt translated:

    PRESS RELEASE (19.11.2014)

    During today’s Morrissey concert at Stodola Club in Warsaw one of the members of the audience standing close to the stage directed extremely offensive and chauvinistic words to the Artiste. This forced the Artiste to leave the stage.

    We welcome anyone present at tonight’s Warsaw show, the offer of free admission to the concert in Cracow, that will take place at Laznia Nowa on November 21, 2014.
  • MORRISSEY - Stodoła, Warszawa, 19/11/14 (foto: P. Tarasewicz) (59 total) - cgp.pl. Link posted by docinwestchester.

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  • Five pound voucher offered by Live Nation for six song Warsaw concert; Facebook group created for full refund - Dec. 10, 2014
 
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Odd, I just tried logging out and don't see the issue using Chrome on Windows and Mac.

Usually you can navigate through an entire thread without signing in. As of yesterday (for me) you just get the first page of replies and no page numbers shown.
 
The various accounts of what happened and what exactly was said last night are quite varied, and I do think it's quite possible that there is more going on here than what's being assumed.

I realize this isn't the first time in his career that Morrissey has walked off stage, but it's not as though this is a regular occurrence! All of this talk about him not caring about the people who are there to see him—it's bullshit. Go look at the rest of the tour he's in the midst of. Go look at all of the footage from Helsinki the other night.

If he felt like he couldn't carry on with the show, then he couldn't carry on with the show. Whether or not you can directly relate or whether some other artist you like would have done something different is really beside the point. I am quite sure that ending a show early isn't a happy experience for Morrissey. He quite possibly even regrets it now. He is a man who acts on his emotions in the moment, though. That's what makes him who he his.

I would be hugely disappointed if he'd walked out of a show I'd gone to see. Not because of the money, but because I want as much from him as I can get. I understand the upset some are feeling today, but the anger seems disproportionate to what actually happened. (And yes, I do get the irony there.)

Well said!

I'll be a Morrissey apologist until the day I die, and I'm totally cool with that.

Yep. So will I. I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
 
This really is deja vu . Morrissey feels disrespect for a split second and he gives up-gives up on everyone present . I hope for his sake he can come up with a dignified way of moving forward when these situations happen. He really is better than this.
 
Its time for everyone to realise that morrissey is just about finished, can't complete a tour, can't write songs like the old days and basically on the way out.. As a smiths/ morrissey supporter for 30+ years, i think its time the tale were told.. I've had the disappointment of cancelled shows and the disappointment of lack lustre albums.. good luck to all with tickets for the remaining shows. You're going to need it..

As a longtime fan myself, I have to agree with you. Sad but true.:confused:
 
Do you remember on 'Beethoven was Deaf' during National Front. After the band plays their bit at the end, Moz asks, 'we might release that as a single', 'do you think it would be a hit?' and someone yells 'Next please!' and I'm sure Moz heard it...yet the band played on.

He's just too sensitive now. My opinion.
 
"Experience proves with unfailing regularity that the methods of psychic development which are effectual and satisfactory for the recluse produce neurotic conditions and breakdowns in the person who pursues them while compelled to endure the strain of modern life." -Dion Fortune, The Mystical Qabalah

In short homey needs crazyperson boot camp because the cloverdeans and paparazzi of the world FORCED him to be recluse while touched with the thing he has that ISNT a mental issue.
 
I'll be a Morrissey apologist until the day I die, and I'm totally cool with that.

If there something to apologize for.

I suspect this will be debated until the cows come home (whatever the saying is) but the fact is, people in Poland are reacting with less venom than people on this website. Additionally, and this isn't profound, but unlike you CP, those who have been cancelled on (it has never happened to me)...well I can only sympathize with their anger, frustration, and hurt. I'm not an apologist. This has been one of the most balanced and well-reasoned threads...in a situation where we often see...50% of the users hating on Moz and 50% defending him no matter what. Having said that, I do think some of the comments have gone off the rails, insofar as if it's never happened to you (a cancellation), what exactly is it to you? Some of the people commenting have been cancelled on, repeatedly. But what of you who don't go to shows? What of you who did not purchase "World Peace"? What of you who continue to come here but have already established you are more than biased in the negative towards Morrissey? Why the f**k do you guys even care? What's it to you? It's not a case of why do you come here and why do you hang around? No one reasonably is saying that. But why do you opine here on this thread? And as for those who opine on this thread with bile and hate - and eagerly await a future concert - maybe you should figure out where you stand, because it appears you are confused. Perhaps, it's a case of...

 
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the Ultimate troll
21 September 1997
Lakewood Civic Auditorium, Cleveland, OH

After "Paint A Vulgar Picture" someone shouted "Johnny did it better!" which prompted Morrissey to retort "No he didn't". But this was only the tip of the provocation to come. A few bars into the last song of main set someone in the audience lifted a sign saying "Joyce 1, Morrissey 0" (an allusion to the previous year's court case which Morrissey lost). After reading this Morrissey stopped singing and walked off stage, taking Boz with him. Boz then had Johnny and Spencer follow him while Alain fingered the offender with both hands and shouted "You just ruined the gig". Security escorted the Smiths-shirt-wearing troublemaker outside so the concert could resume, but perhaps also because the angry crowd wanted to lynch him. Then Morrissey returned to the stage to perform the planned encore "Shoplifters Of The World Unite" without mentioning the incident.
 
http://www.kelleydrye.com/publications/articles/1477/_res/id=Files/index=0/1477.pdf

This goes a long way towards answering your question. I'm someone who brought up the insurance question earlier. I can tell you that in the industry he is "grudgingly booked." He is usually good for tickets in smaller venues (and a few huge ones in America). This is nothing like first few tours though. That's fine and to be expected. You have to pay for him (40,000 or so for an 1800 seat venue) and last I heard he was asking for another 4-5k for his own catering/personal chef. You read that correctly. The bad news is the promotion of the show. As Morrissey isn't regularly played on the radio and written about on blogs constantly, you don't have built in and free advertising the way you would with a Coldplay or Arctic Monkeys. The promoter or venue has to pay for radio, tv or print ads. They had to turn away other acts that could have played (and not cancelled) on the same date. Whether their fault or not, the venue will be associated with negative press. These are just a few of the reasons Morrissey will have trouble finding a company to insure his tours.

Great link. Thanks for sharing.
 
"Experience proves with unfailing regularity that the methods of psychic development which are effectual and satisfactory for the recluse produce neurotic conditions and breakdowns in the person who pursues them while compelled to endure the strain of modern life." -Dion Fortune, The Mystical Qabalah

In short homey needs crazyperson boot camp because the cloverdeans and paparazzi of the world FORCED him to be recluse while touched with the thing he has that ISNT a mental issue.

Clover is a damn psychopath but he isn't hounded by paps. I can't think of a time he's been papped in the last year outside of LA. i don't believe he's a recluse, in Switzerland he probably doesn't have any problems coming and going as he pleases. In the grand scheme of things he isn't as famous as a lot of celebrities.
 
If there something to apologize for.

I suspect this will be debated until the cows come home (whatever the saying is) but the fact is, people in Poland are reacting with less venom than people on this website. Additionally, and this isn't profound, but unlike you CP, those who have been cancelled on (it has never happened to me)...well I can only sympathize with their anger, frustration, and hurt. I'm not an apologist. This has been one of the most balanced and well-reasoned threads...in a situation where we often see...50% of the users hating on Moz and 50% defending him no matter what. Having said that, I do think some of the comments have gone off the rails, insofar as if it's never happened to you (a cancellation), what exactly is it to you? Some of the people commenting have been cancelled on, repeatedly. But what of you who don't go to shows? What of you who did not purchase "World Peace"? What of you who continue to come here but have already established you are more than biased in the negative towards Morrissey? Why the f**k do you guys even care? What's it to you? It's not a case of why do you come here and why do you hang around? No one reasonably is saying that. But why do you opine here on this thread? And as for those who opine on this thread with bile and hate - and eagerly await a future concert - maybe you should figure out where you stand, because it appears you are confused. Perhaps, it's a case of...



BG, I have always found your posts and polls to be almost always interesting and thought-provoking (going back to the 'good old days', if there is such a thing) BUT, to claim there is any reasonable excuse for walking off stage after 5-6 songs because Morrissey was offended by a SINGLE audience member is absolutely asinine.

Yes, Morrissey is a unique artist. Yes, his songs (and his shows) are a personal, emotional reflection on him - and of course - for the audience. Yes, he is not a typical "rock star". BUT, he has been performing live for 32+ years. Occasionally someone is going to hurl a negative comment (or cup of beer) his way betwween songs. It is completely unacceptable for a seasoned 55 year old artist to act like a 14 year old and run off in a huff, leaving hundreds/thousands of people left holding the bag. In WHAT UNIVERSE does this make sense?

I've been to many Morrissey shows. Some great. Many good. Some paint-by-numbers. And some (9 to be exact) were cancelled. If the lights go down and he walks on stage, barring a heart attack mid-show, he owes it to everyone in attendance to put on a full show, no mater what. The show must go on. Particularly if you walk out and play "The Queen is Dead" with a doctored photo of the Queen flipping the bird. And WHAT THE HELL is this "singing with his back to the crowd" nonsense?? Beyond comprehension.

I also don't see your connection between the value of people's comments being dependent on their current show count, their album purchase records, or the like. People who come to this site are interested in Morrissey, and the fact is the Warsaw gig is just one in long line of questionable cancellations and diva-esque moves. Whether a poster was seeing their first Morrissey show last night and got screwed over, or a long-time fan following a steadily-declining and-increasingly-bizarre- tour from afar, I think both viewpoints are valid.

I'm not sure what the overarching issue is with Morrissey (MANY theories have been floated the last few months), but I agree with the essence of Bored's comment (as posted earlier)..... If he can't count on himself to complete 95% of shows in a given year, then just hang it up and retire from live shows.
 
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Wow. When we were discussing the release of 'World Peace...' there was never this many comments. Very few take the time to enjoy what it is that Morrissey does - explaining why they like a song, or a lyric, or what a Morrissey means to them - but almost everyone jumps to have their say at vague drama. Are you all really fans?
 
BG, I have always found your posts and polls to be almost always interesting and thought-provoking (going back to the 'good old days', if there is such a thing) BUT, to claim there is any reasonable excuse for walking off stage after 5-6 songs because Morrissey was offended by a SINGLE audience member is absolutely asinine.

Yes, Morrissey is a unique artist. Yes, his songs (and his shows) are a personal, emotional reflection on him - and of course - for the audience. Yes, he is not a typical "rock star". BUT, he has been performing live for 32+ years. Occasionally someone is going to hurl a negative comment (or cup of beer) his way betwween songs. It is completely unacceptable for a seasoned 55 year old artist to act like a 14 year old and run off in a huff, leaving hundreds/thousands of people left holding the bag. In WHAT UNIVERSE does this make sense?

I've been to many Morrissey shows. Some great. Many good. Some paint-by-numbers. And some (9 to be exact) were cancelled. If the lights go down and he walks on stage, barring a heart attack mid-show, he owes it to everyone in attendance to put on a full show, no mater what. The show must go on. Particularly if you walk out and play "The Queen is Dead" with a doctored photo of the Queen flipping the bird. And WHAT THE HELL is this "singing with his back to the crowd" nonsense?? Beyond comprehension.

I also don't see your connection between the value of people's comments being dependent on their current show count, their album purchase records, or the like. People who come to this site are interested in Morrissey, and the fact is the Warsaw gig is just one in long line of questionable cancellations and diva-esque moves. Whether a poster was seeing their first Morrissey show last night and got screwed over, or a long-time fan following a steadily-declining and-increasingly-bizarre- tour from afar, I think both viewpoints are valid.

I'm not sure what the overarching issue is with Morrissey (MANY theories have been floated the last few months), but I agree with Bored (as posted earlier)..... If he can't count on himself to complete 95% of shows in a given year, then just hang it up and retire from live shows.

I respect your opinion even if I don't agree. I disagree with the user you named and I hope Morrissey never follows that line. I'd rather he drop dead, and so would Morrissey, on stage doing what he loves than retire from live shows, because a disgruntled fan, who has been cancelled on, suggested it. Further, I don't think it's anyone's business to commandeer Morrissey's actions. And I know, full well, that MORRISSEY will never take his cues from anyone in cyberspace. He may read these threads, some comments may hurt his feelings, but he will do exactly what he wants. In that way, those who identify as apologists, defenders, die-hards, etc. - win. By contrast, if Linder Sterling suggested he hang up his tambourine...maybe he'd listen.
 
Would the 'Trafford' incident be a nasty comment on why the England gig is London, not Manchester? Just trying to make sense. Love him but think this storming off was disrespectful and very unfair to the rest of audience. He had better not do it in Dublin..
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azJE4Gi_meo

This is a 15 minute video from Warsaw.

The Queen is Dead is in full, then clips of the other songs.

Go to 8:40 to judge for yourself what you think went wrong.

Karl
NE24

Thanks for posting this. It's hard to tell what's going on because several people seem to be shouting things, but does someone yell "suck it" at the 9:00 mark? Is there cultural significance to "we miss you in Trafford" that I don't understand? I get that it's where Manchester United play, but is that an insulting thing to say?

I'm so confused. Morrissey's voice seemed on the verge of breaking during Staircase. And Boz sounded legitimately angry. I just keeping thinking there's some other layer to this that I'm missing.

Looked like a great show up to that point...
 
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I can't find Chickpea's comment to re quote but I'll defend Morrissey's antics just to annoy the usual crowd here who love calling us sheep. They know who they are :)
 

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