Florence - Obihall (Oct. 21, 2014) post-show

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Set List:

The Queen Is Dead / First Of The Gang To Die / Staircase At The University / I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris / Speedway / World Peace Is None Of Your Business / How Soon Is Now? / Istanbul / Trouble Loves Me / Kiss Me A Lot / Neal Cassady Drops Dead / Meat Is Murder / The Bullfighter Dies / You Have Killed Me / Earth Is The Loneliest Planet / I'm Not A Man // Asleep / Everyday Is Like Sunday

set list provided by Alejandro Kapacevic / Facebook via gonzax.



  • Photos by Eleonora Birardi (30 total) / Flickr. Link posted by Chickpea.

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  • Photo by aleberre / Instagram. Link posted by docinwestchester.

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On the topic of the "people at the front": my good friend and I went to a series of shows from 2004 - 2011 (including but not limited to his most recent show in Chicago, the Auditorium Theatre in December 2011, the end point of 'Autobiography'). In most cases, we were never closer to the equivalent of 4-5 "rows" back in an SRO crowd. However, for his show at the Eagle Theatre in Milwaukee, October 2004, we happened to get a spot right at the barrier (stage right, because she was a big fan of and one-time correspondent with Boz). I had been made familiar with Julia Riley and the other "irregular regulars" both through the 2002 tour (of which I had a boot of nearly every show) and the other two shows we saw on the YATQ tour. So I was well aware that she was at practically every show - and there were others with a similar level of commitment. (Or need to be committed, depending on your viewpoint.)

At the Eagle, we took our places at the barrier right after the doors open. Not 15 minutes later (and probably a 1/2 hour before Damien Dempsey started), a woman approached and asked if we wouldn't mind "stepping over" so "Julia could get down front and center where Morrissey can see her." We were somewhat taken aback: (1) it was a standing room crowd - traditionally, first come first served; (2) Julia had someone ask for her (Morrissey-ish, in retrospect). My friend quickly replied, levelly and not unreasonably: "Well, there are already other people to our left so we can't really shift unless you ask them. Besides, this is the only time we've been at the barrier and Julia sees Morrissey almost every night. I'm sure he'll find her."

The woman stared daggers at my friend, didn't say a word. She moved down the line to the next people and asked them the same thing, same wording. One of the couple was a short young woman - if she wasn't at the front, the only chance she would have to see much of anything would be in a balcony seat. Her male companion pointed this out - again, perfectly reasonably. The woman huffed, said "thanks...A LOT" sharply and walked away towards stage center.

My friend and I were taken aback. On the one hand, yes, some of these people spare no expense and time to follow Morrissey on tour. But this shouldn't be an automatic pass to always have the same spots up front. I believe there are passionate fans at EVERY show, ANYWHERE, who may have only one chance to see him and they should be accorded the chance if they get the ticket and spend the time waiting in line queuing up early. For my part, I'm glad we held our ground as we both got to shake Morrissey's hand during "Everyday Is Like Sunday." We also got Gary Day's autograph out by the bus after the show. A great night.

You did the right thing. Thanks for sharing.
 
I've brought this point up in the past and it was met with "Oh you're just jealous of Julia." No, not really. I'm frustrated that when he comes to my town I have to move over for someone who saw him twelve consecutive nights in a row leading up to what I savor and anticipate for months. At one show I drove very far to see a regular confronted me for not sleeping over night in line (after driving all day to get there) and that my "level of commitment to Morrissey is lacking." Orly? I get sooooooooo frustrated at that. It makes me not care for the fans even though I know it's the 1% of his fans that say those things. I have no beef with Julia because she does her thing and it's very specific and I appreciate that, but the topic of "hoarding" Morrissey does frustrate me.

People are very quick to call someone jealous when they criticize Julia. No, my life rocks and to be honest I have no desire to follow him on a whole tour.

When people spend hours in line to get to the barrier when they only are seeing him once or twice during a tour and have to step aside for julia, there is something wrong. I don't know of any other artist that does that.
 
That's how people grow up. It happens to the best of us. We evolve from brooding, narcissistic teenagers to empathetic, globally aware adults. I think his lyrics demonstrate he is doing less of that narcissistic navel gazing these days. He is now looking outside himself for inspiration. Shows that he has grown and changed. Not a bad thing, imo.

Very true, but I don't necessarily think that introspection and the contemplation of the internal and eternal struggles relating to thoughts and feelings surrounding life and death are for "brooding, narcissistic teenagers" exclusively. Morrissey and I are of a similar age. His words of loneliness, feelings of being an outcast, and his various inabilities and inadequacies surrounding life and love spoke to me when I was younger as you captured above quite well.

But where does a now (unfortunately :( ) middle-aged man/woman turn to for comfort, and a sense of understanding as to what the past has meant and what the future might hold? I was hoping he would be able to write more than just about teenage angst. It appears that this is no longer a desire or perhaps need of his to express what it means to grow older. Memories of youth becoming ever hazier as thoughts of one's mortality approach at an ever increasing speed. Oh, if he were only there to turn to now as he was when I was a much younger man.
 
Very true, but I don't necessarily think that introspection and the contemplation of the internal and eternal struggles relating to thoughts and feelings surrounding life and death are for "brooding, narcissistic teenagers" exclusively. Morrissey and I are of a similar age. His words of loneliness, feelings of being an outcast, and his various inabilities and inadequacies surrounding life and love spoke to me when I was younger as you captured above quite well.

But where does a now (unfortunately :( ) middle-aged man/woman turn to for comfort, and a sense of understanding as to what the past has meant and what the future might hold? I was hoping he would be able to write more than just about teenage angst. It appears that this is no longer a desire or perhaps need of his to express what it means to grow older. Memories of youth becoming ever hazier as thoughts of one's mortality approach at an ever increasing speed. Oh, if he were only there to turn to now as he was when I was a much younger man.

He's rich, he has Damon. The loneliness and despair he felt as a teen/20-something fueled genius lyrics. The well has run dry, so he sings about world events and his dead friends from his Swiss chalet. It happens to most brilliant songwriters.
 
Back to the music...I dubbed good audio onto good video and came up with this:

(How cool is that screen cap for the thumbnail? YouTube is a genius!)

 
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Back to the music...I dubbed good audio onto good video and came up with this:

(How cool is that screen cap for the thumbnail? YouTube is a genius!)



Is Youtube a genius or is that just exactly halfway like they usually do?

(That is a lovely edit job. Well done.)

Also I don't think Morrissey can sing this song every night, it's seems taxing. He sang it beautifully here though.
 
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He's rich, he has Damon. The loneliness and despair he felt as a teen/20-something fueled genius lyrics. The well has run dry, so he sings about world events and his dead friends from his Swiss chalet. It happens to most brilliant songwriters.

Well put.
 
He's rich, he has Damon. The loneliness and despair he felt as a teen/20-something fueled genius lyrics. The well has run dry, so he sings about world events and his dead friends from his Swiss chalet. It happens to most brilliant songwriters.



Yes, yes, yes. Apart from the 95% of the songs that aren't about those things.
 
To be honest, what I have more of a problem with is the number of people that are being "walked in" early before a show. I know that these people are on some type of guest list that I am certain Morrissey has approved, but it is getting ridiculous now (if it is still going on the way it has been?). It used to be only Julia, which whatever, fine... But it seems like now there is always like 7 or 8 people at every single show. I know that most of these people attend almost every single show and whatnot, but I remember plenty of people who did the exact same 12-14 years ago, and didn't get any of these special privileges? What's changed?

I think the same. Why everybody was on queue (even moving, going to bar, staying near the river and not in front of the door) and half an hour before the doors opening a group of eight/nine people, like the tall girl with short pants and two very big and tall boys with red tshirts, jumped the queue and entered to go easily in first row? They know Moz 'cause the follow him everywhere or are relatives of some of the tour organizers? Lucky them, but for the rest of us who stayed out until the opening entering after hours of queue and finding these enormous people in front of us was abysmal.
 
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So let us get this right, Julia gets pride of place because of who she is? If so then that's f***ing shitty, if I was told to step aside I'd plant the nut on her.
 
Uh, you know there are a few others, right?

Actually...We don't...That's even the reason why we never go anywhere... *lulz!*
(I've heard Jake's kid is on it, though.)(Hey! How could he NOT be?)

Ain't life funny? :)
No?
...Yes, well... Give it time. Give it time.
 
Here are the last two minutes of Staircase, filmed with my phone:

http://youtu.be/8BuiEXLiGho

I was very curious to see and hear Gustavo's skill in the solo guitar at the end. Bravo Gustavo!

On the other side I feel quite tired of going to Moz gigs and finding these pricks and their list! For those who don't know, there are the usual guys, one is Guillarme or whatever his name is, the other is "the skull girl" whose name I don't know, plus others, who arrive in the morning of the gig and start to compile a list of "aficionados", 20-30 people.

When one arrives at the gig, these people are not in front of the doors or queueing, they are just around, some are not even there and arrive later. When it's time to stand in front of the closed doors, one or two hours before the gig, these guys make a sort of wall not allowing anyone to enter before them. A kind of mafia.

I respect queues and people who go there first and very early, but I think these people should really queue like, for example, people who stand outside Apple Stores to wait for the release of a new iPhone. Get a chair, get whatever you want, but stay in front of the doors since the beginning! In Bologna there were people who went there early in the afternoon to be included in the "list" and then went home, just to come back at the very end and expecting to enter first.

And one more hilarious thing (this is really laughable!). When doors open in some venues, people must run even for some hundred metres to get to the stage, but the mafia-list-people expect that people behind them run slower than them because they deserve to be in the first row :-D

Last but not least, most of them during the gig just stand there without singing, like dummies. Last night I was watching them and thought: what's the point?

Maybe these guys just really need to get a life. Maybe the list and all the rest is just the peak of their days. Quite sad.
The exact thing happened to me in Madrid. It was my first Moz concert, I was so nervous and these people annoyed me a lot. I waited several hours and they just showed up at the end. I agree in every single point with you.
 

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