For a second, don't you think it's a bit selfish to ask to change an entire system that's been built up over many years because you have a problem with one person? The posts that are getting through are not violations as far as I am concerned. If these posts are that dangerous, go to the authorities and I'll be glad to help them out. Otherwise, as suggested previously by myself and others, ignore them.
You are right. Ignore all anonymous troll posts from Dave. Ignore all anonymous troll posts from Dave. Ignore all anonymous troll posts from Dave.
I will try my best. He has no real power, of course not. Just an irritant like a fly buzzing in my ear when I am trying to enjoy my time posting here.
No. Don't change anything. I am not seriously requesting you to change the system. My apologies. I am bitching and ranting against trolling in general. Not against you or your website. If I can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen, right?! It is a privilege to post here. Not a right. I will trying the ignoring route, again.
You vowed to stop replying to anonymous "troll" posts months ago.
You couldn't do it.
You vowed to stop attacking people for being overweight months ago.
You couldn't do it.
You're the same person now you were then, so...
This is like watching someone drown in a baby pool.
I like it.
If it's any comfort to you, during the Olympic games i was routinely 'trolled' on this site by a disturbed entity who insisted I was a racist Celtic fan. He provided an audit trail of 'evidence' to back this up and many credulous fools took this no-shit Sherlock at face value. Which was fascinating to observe as an example of mob-group think crescendo. But I honestly didn't give a toss and just LOL'd whilst watching the pole-vault. If the real-life person behind this 'trolling' made the same allegations under their citizen identity in a credible forum (say at a local business networking centre) then I would,of course, muse upon the efficacy of issuing a writ for damages. The only problem would be in convincing a judge that such a baldy barmpot had any credence or power to damage my real-world status from the sanctity of their ice-cream van. Naturally, I chose to be amused by this entity which has now "vanished" to the great grave of cyber-space, hopefully to a place with free therapy on offer.
You can be absolutely sure, after Snowdon & Greenwald, that you are almost always safe online. The chances of encountering a genuine psycho are ridiculously small. Any credible threat to your personal safety can be traced within hours via your local Sheriff/NSA/GCHQ and would not be reliant upon this site's co-operation. Nobody here is 'anonymous'.
I have to say, this all reminds me of my little boy having nightmares about the 'bogey man' and finally realising that all he had to do to dispel the nightmare was to switch on the bedside lamp. There are no 'trolls' here who can damage you unless you give them power. If people give you feedback which you find disturbing or upsetting you have the choice to either consider it rationally or ignore it. Like everybody else. I've had useful feedback here when I've been a bit of a bastard, just as in real life. But i would never lose sleep over it! Let's all look forward to WPINOYB, which I'm sure will be an entirely troll-free zone of scintillating intellectual exploration without any paranoid ideation to explain reality. Ahem!
Dave! Get back in your troll-cave!
Thanks for sharing this with me. It helps. And makes me see it in a different light--lamp on. YOU are the smartest person on this website. You don't need me to tell you that though. Those who can't see this are too dumb to see it. Period.
For a second, don't you think it's a bit selfish to ask to change an entire system that's been built up over many years because you have a problem with one person? The posts that are getting through are not violations as far as I am concerned. If these posts are that dangerous, go to the authorities and I'll be glad to help them out. Otherwise, as suggested previously by myself and others, ignore them.
Obviously, and as I've said in the past: the latter. But that's insofar as I can be said to be addressing you at all. As I've also said before, I'm addressing everyone else who suffers through your awful behavior here. Every overweight person, every person from a trying background, every person who cringes to see someone engage in the most adolescent posturing at an age when post people are secure in their identities; every person pained by seeing an astonishingly illogical, hypocritical, subliterate monster lecture others on logic, morality, and language usage daily--some days hourly.
To make you see the light? One more time: I am not going to be your tutor. No one here should fall into that trap. Because you can't pay us, in any way. You bring nothing to the table, in any transaction. You're a parasite. You want to use others as stepping stones, and as sources of "affirmation" of your delusional self-image.
As for your remarks on social misfits, etc, these simply illustrate your usual, high school, queen bee mentality, now recognized by almost everyone here. You're pretty much copying and pasting lately. Fine. If it makes you feel productive.
As for your remarks on who can and can't write well, these might mean something if they came from someone who understands the difference between "you're" and "your," and who doesn't think that using a colon (rather than a "full stop," Dame Realitybites) is the equivalent of wearing a monocle. You aren't a reader, you aren't a writer, and anyone who's even a little bit of the former can tell. I would tell you to knock it off, but anyone can also see by now that you have no capacity to observe yourself, to recognize the truth in any criticisms, to alter your behavior--ever.
I have no idea why someone as apparently reasonable as Iona is civil with you. I suppose she's lonely, or enjoys your compliments, or both. You have no "in" with anyone unless they're vulnerable in these ways. I would hope that anyone can recognize your process eventually.
Condescension is not a shortcut to intelligence. And if you'd ever had any shot at being intelligent--and this, by the way, is what everyone is thinking about you lately--you'd have something to show for it by now. Show, vs tell: that's how real qualities, rather than imagined ones, are communicated.
You're on this site to enact a fantasy of who you wish you were. People who are being themselves experience this as the equivalent of making small talk with someone in a Halloween costume.
Enough tutoring for now--ack! I fell for it. Have a great weekend on www.morrissey-solo.com.
I'd like to respectfully, and with full appreciation for how silly this is, repeat my request that you tell her it's more than one person.
I remember that. It was right after I started posting here again. The evidence linking you to that person was ONLY your user name, and nothing else. Yes, mob group-think is frightening. Especially in real life. People get killed.
This is reassuring to know. Thanks.
Thanks for sharing this with me. It helps. And makes me see it in a different light--lamp on. YOU are the smartest person on this website. You don't need me to tell you that though. Those who can't see this are too dumb to see it. Period.
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However, if you ever genuinely feel it's a serious threat to your safely and not just silly ego-bashing, go to your local law enforcement office and demand that they use the NSA/GCHQ to trace and apprehend the person. If they feel you are in danger, they'll certainly contact the site owner. But remember they are also likely to query why you take personal criticism so seriously whilst willingly taking part in an online forum, unless there's a real criminal threat being made. I've never seen any such threat.
realitybites said:You want a cock in your mouth but have to settle for a Twinkie instead. Ever consider a male escort? No shame in that. Just use protection. There must be plenty of rent boys out there in LA.
realitybites said:Where were your mom and dad when you were 14 getting raped by a 45 year old man? My dad would have killed Evan. So would have my mom. Your parents failed you. No wonder you are one f***ed up individual.
realitybites said:I want to see your cellulite pocketed ass, actually.
realitybites said:You are like a horny dog that humps pillows. You are vile.
realitybites said:You are a fat, ugly, pathetic excuse for a human being.
Although I don't think most anonymous users would do this, a sophisticated hacker can certainly post from IPs from anywhere to disguise their location or make others believe they aren't the same user. Knowing this is a possibility, I can't confirm or deny a user is or isn't another user, so it's a bit pointless.
I think it's funny you encourage her to go to the police. They would tell her to quit posting here.
Anyway, I think maybe you don't understand my request?
Any impartial third party would also realize, reading this thread, that she is the only harasser present in the scenario! (Have her grandiose compliments of your "priceless" and "perfect" outpourings bought your silence on this elephantine hypocrisy? I recall how you immediately turned off the "Stockholm syndrome" talk last year, following her initial hosannas for your loggorhea--or was than an ironic sell-out?)
But absolutely, let's call in the coppers. A certain Manic Pixie Dream Intellectual would be in for some very awkward questioning. There's no need to talk about this all in theory. Examine Arizona state law on the matter.
http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/13/02921.htm&Title=13&DocType=ARS
http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/13/02916.htm&Title=13&DocType=ARS
"13-2916. Use of an electronic communication to terrify, intimidate, threaten or harass; applicability; classification; definition
A. It is unlawful for any person, with intent to terrify, intimidate, threaten or harass a specific person or persons, to do any of the following:
1. Direct any obscene, lewd or profane language or suggest any lewd or lascivious act to the person in an electronic communication."
Examples:
"The written word is where I shine," she's written. Class 1 Misdemeanor. Penalty: Up to 6 months in jail and up to a $2,500 fine.
As the person whom she claims is "harassing" her, I volunteer to participate faithfully in any conversation with her state's trusted public servants, should she--or someone else?--initiate it.
This is one bluff I am dying to call.
It obviously also goes against the entire philosophy in favor of anonymous posting. "Duh," in thunder. If someone became hysterical at a masked ball, bolting around and pulling at false noses, she wouldn't be sat down and humored with thousands of words of explanation on the matter. She'd be thrown out. If she complained someone had harassed her, she'd have to say what had happened--not just "I was abused" again, and again, and again, hoping to Hitchens that yet another alpha troll will come swooping in to save her. And finally, if irrefutable evidence were produced that she were in fact guilty of endless instances of unambiguous harassment herself, as has happened here? Again: she'd be tossed out on her petite rear.
The anonymous posts that she's objecting to have all been approved by moderators. Her issue is with those instances of approval. Obviously, her refusal to broach that issue, or to question site policy more directly, is part of the social strategy that so much of the claimed "harassment" has criticized.
You're welcome. I hope things improve for you, but that's up to you, nobody else. If anyone intrudes into your real life with a genuine campaign of harassment or threats, give them enough rope until they trip up and reveal enough to get themselves arrested. There's no lynch-mob here that can hoist you or anyone else, any attempt to do so makes the troll(s) look crazee, unless you take it seriously in which case it raises questions about your mental stability. It's the internet! However, if you're going to link your real life identity to an online intellectual asylum like this, you need to be very clear what you are doing and why. Discussing your involvement with named dating sites here is just inviting mischief-makers.
Some people are now flooding the 'internet' with spurious and ridiculous information to retain their privacy, mashing up various real/fake/hybrid personas so that they cannot be reliably parsed from online data. Partly for the lulz, but also as a sophisticated protest against the surveillance state orchestrated through Social Media trojan horses on behalf of the Corporatocracy. But that's a high-wire act and it's not what you're doing, is it?
You appear to be making an appeal to traditional 'real-world' notions of 'authenticity' and standards of decorum and etiquette which simply don't exist anywhere online where pseudonyms and avatars are allowed. What amazes me is that you take any of your accusers or their insults and 'evidence' even remotely seriously. As the Pistorious trial shows, even 'forensic' evidence is open to wide interpretation, so what status does anything said by a troll online have? Pretty much zilch.
The site proprietor would destroy his off-line reputation if he gave in to any demands by you to provide 'evidence' about the identity behind individual 'anonymous' comments. However, if you ever genuinely feel it's a serious threat to your safely and not just silly ego-bashing, go to your local law enforcement office and demand that they use the NSA/GCHQ to trace and apprehend the person. If they feel you are in danger, they'll certainly contact the site owner. But remember they are also likely to query why you take personal criticism so seriously whilst willingly taking part in an online forum, unless there's a real criminal threat being made. I've never seen any such threat. Bullies can only operate if you give them the power to do so. Once you retract that power, they vanish. Or they return to make fools of themselves going round and around in circles looking ever more desperate and ridiculous. Don't join them. This site is for fun. It's not important so don't take it seriously. I enjoy monitoring the soap-opera dramas here and join in now and again. But do you really believe anyone credible would take anything written on this site seriously outside the asylum walls? Srsly.
Good luck with your new outlook.
I know that I am in the minority. I will never think like the mainstream people on here or anywhere. So, being criticized, harassed, even bullied, is the price I pay for being different and outspoken. And that is the way it is. It is just more visible here due to relaxed moderation. Accept this or leave, right? I don't know how long I will continue to post here. Or even how long this site will be up. But while I AM here I will continue to express my opinions freely and will not be bullied into silence. I will continue to ask questions like, 'Is Morrissey a Misogynist?' And make statements like, 'Shaming the obese can be helpful.' I am here. I am opinionated. Deal with it.
Although I don't think most anonymous users would do this, a sophisticated hacker can certainly post from IPs from anywhere to disguise their location or make others believe they aren't the same user. Knowing this is a possibility, I can't confirm or deny a user is or isn't another user, so it's a bit pointless. I can suggest something is likely spending some time researching / looking up ips, again without 100% certainty but I don't want to spend my time doing this.
It's best not to engage anonymous users in conversation if you want to go beyond what is written in the individual post, if they want to converse they should create an account.
Although I don't think most anonymous users would do this, a sophisticated hacker can certainly post from IPs from anywhere to disguise their location or make others believe they aren't the same user. Knowing this is a possibility, I can't confirm or deny a user is or isn't another user, so it's a bit pointless. I can suggest something is likely spending some time researching / looking up ips, again without 100% certainty but I don't want to spend my time doing this.
It's best not to engage anonymous users in conversation if you want to go beyond what is written in the individual post, if they want to converse they should create an account.