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makes perfect sense
I have a lot of respect for atheists and listen to their theories and agree on some. But I believe in God.
And that is peachy keen with me. Just don't call atheists morons. It is after all an argumentum ad hominem, an attempt to negate the truth of a claim by pointing out a negative characteristic or belief of the person supporting it, rather than the claim itself. And thus, a logical fallacy of argument.
You know a tree by its fruit. Jesus said that!
But, atheism is not a theory. It states nothing. Show me why you believe it is a theory. Is not believing in pink elephants a theory? How?
If you are gonna be a member of the tribe, it would be helpful to have a good understanding of the terms and concepts that atheists sometimes employ. And at the very least, an accurate definition of atheism. You wouldn't, after all, want to profess to agree with something or rather, in this case, "the nothing" unless you knew what you were agreeing to.
But, I'm glad to have you on board. Cheers.
In order to be an atheist do you have to be self righteous?
I don't believe in laundry.
In order to be an atheist do you have to be self righteous?
I think anyone who speaks didactically about their belief system has to be a little full of themselves.
I've found it's usually the case. I have no time for fanatics on either side of the board...
I hope there is a heaven just so all the sanctimonious atheists have to spend eternity with the evangelical Christians.
Maybe calling him a "genius" was going a little far but he did set forth a revolutionary concept in science that moved away from atheism into an actual cohesive, structured explanation of how we could have gotten here without some divine hand pulling the strings.
When I say there were holes in his bag I just meant that while I respect him [Darwin] offering an alternative to some mythical "poof! there were animals" and "poof! there were people" notion of creation, evolution doesn't really make any sense to me either. Maybe I'm just not smart enough to understand it biologically, or scientifically, I don't know. It just doesn't add up, something about the concept of everything coming from primordial ooze...I don't know, I don't buy it. I don't like the way that every time scientists can't explain something they just keep adding a million years to the Earth's history.
Maybe I'm just not smart enough to understand it biologically, or scientifically, I don't know. It just doesn't add up, something about the concept of everything coming from primordial ooze...I don't know, I don't buy it.
I don't like the way that every time scientists can't explain something they just keep adding a million years to the Earth's history.
I didn't claim God created the universe. I questioned atheism. Atheists are allowed to question, but no one can question them without being branded as Christian? Seems unfair.
I don't know what created God, or even if there is one. That's what I'm saying when I say this conversation is ultimately pointless. No matter what you believe, none of it really makes any sense or can be proven. At least, not with the data we have accumulated so far. I just think there is more to the story that has either not been discovered or has been suppressed.
Atheism is a theory; in that it is an unproven belief system that is pinned on a refusal to believe in a central divine intelligence. It does make a claim...that there is no God. I agree with you about the Christianity thing though.
You can't just say, "atheism isn't a belief system because I don't believe in God." A negative belief system, or an anti-belief regimen, is still a belief system.
But I certainly never said this debate is "child's play"...I said that this discussion -which I'm admitting is very basic as I don not claim to be an intellectual nor particularly authoritative on this subject- is valuable as a discussion, but not as a means to any definitive end. Because NOBODY knows where we come from or what happens when we die. NOBODY.
I think you are just reading what you want to read in my statements...I have known some extremely intelligent and kind people who are atheists. And unfortunately I have known some cripplingly stupid and cruel Christians.
No one in my family reads this site, or even knows about it, LOL, and I have outgrown all of my friends and let them go, so I don't really give a f*** what people read or see here.
This forum exists outside of my actual life...I don't take it as seriously as many people here seem to think I do. I don't mean that as a cop-out; I do genuinely enjoy this "place" and I like posting, and I mean most of what I say, but don't give me the "think before you speak" lecture because -at least on this topic- I haven't said anything I regret.
In order to be an atheist do you have to be self righteous?
I hope there is a heaven just so all the sanctimonious atheists have to spend eternity with the evangelical Christians.
That's cruel.
It isn't cruel. It's honest. She isn't attacking you personally; or if she is, I don't read it that way. You are telling me you don't see a smugness in atheism?
Why do you make a division between "natural and unnatural" where physical reality is concerned?
Bullshit of the highest order. Except maybe for Santa.
What "evidence" will you recognize? Photographs, video, eyewitness accounts that pass polygraph tests? Unexplainable changes in magnetic fields and temperature and soil, as measured by mechanical instruments? Inexplicable sound recordings where there is no evidence of fakery or tampering?...what do you count as "evidence?"
Let me guess...all of those people, the hundreds and hundreds of thousands who have had what they consider paranormal experiences..ghosts, UFOs, etc...including policemen and airline pilots...are either crazy, lying, or mistaken, right? Every single one. Sure. Of course.
Because NOTHING happens that science can't get its obtuse little head around...we'll just write it all off as fake...as "children's stories." Right?
Just like Santa Claus.
I never used the word unnatural. I said, supernatural. Supernatural is defined as that which is not subject to the laws of nature, or more figuratively, that which is said to exist above and beyond nature.
Evidence is everything that is used to determine or demonstrate the truth of an assertion. This includes direct evidence i.e things we can gather with our senses. Secondly, it includes indirect evidence i.e. things we can gather using tools such as telescopes and microscopes. And lastly, it includes things we gather using models--tangible or mathematical.
It isn't cruel. It's honest. She isn't attacking you personally; or if she is, I don't read it that way. You are telling me you don't see a smugness in atheism?