Can anyone confirm Morrissey's shoe size?

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A vintage dealer referred to me who is known for selling legitimate rock memoribillia has offered me what he alleges are a pair of Moz's loafers.
They do look similar to some brogues I've seen him wear in photographs but I thought I'd ask the experts before I paid handsomely for them.
Cheers!
 
Whats the shoe brand? Trickers, Jeffery West, Oliver Sweeney, Patrick Cox, Churchs, etc?


A vintage dealer referred to me who is known for selling legitimate rock memoribillia has offered me what he alleges are a pair of Moz's loafers.
They do look similar to some brogues I've seen him wear in photographs but I thought I'd ask the experts before I paid handsomely for them.
Cheers!
 
Thank you for your response, I'd rather not divulge the brand. I'm only seeking a confirmation on his foot size, which can be given in US or UK sizing. Thank you!!!!
 
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I remember seeing a classified ad in NME around 1994 or 1995 a cheeky thief was trying to sell a pair of trainers belonged to Damon Albarn.
Hope no one bothered to buy them.
 
I would find owning a pair of his shoes creepy.

I agree, owning a pair of his shoes is a bit much. But is it any different than people trying to get his shirt that was tossed in the audience at a show (or buying it from someone after the fact)?
 
I would find owning a pair of his shoes creepy.

This. I can't imagine him giving away any for someone to sell in the first place? I wouldn't trust this sale for an instant.

I can't remember any time when Moz revealed his shoe size, either. Johnny Marr is a 9 so I'd guess maybe.. 10-11 for Moz? (UK size).

Either way, don't buy them OP. Someone is trying to rip you off.
 
A vintage dealer referred to me who is known for selling legitimate rock memoribillia has offered me what he alleges are a pair of Moz's loafers.
They do look similar to some brogues I've seen him wear in photographs but I thought I'd ask the experts before I paid handsomely for them.
Cheers!

Unless the shoes have some historical or iconographic significance, why would you want them? Unless you can find an image of Morrissey wearing the shoes, how do you know your investment will hold it's value? If you need to sell them in the future, how will you prove to other that the shoes are bona-fide. Can your 'dealer' provide you with a receipt showing Morrissey actually purchased and wore the shoes? Without proof that these shoes really did host Morrissey's sacred feet, how can you get the shoes valued for insurance purposes?
Owning a pair of Morrissey's shoes will be an enormously significant development in your life: have you discussed how you will integrate these shoes into other relationships? Will you 'come out' about your relationship with these shoes or will this be a 'secret' that only you and your soulmates here know about?

Purchasing a cast-off pair of Morrissey's shoes is an incredibly serious decision which may have ramifications for the rest of your life. It's not a trivial matter.

The most important thing is to ensure that you have a full laboratory test on the shoes to ensure they are 'pleather'. You do not want to have shoes with 'bad karma' from the days when Morrissey had a 'false consciousness' about shoes and tried to justify wearing the leather that came from the moo-cows he didn't want to fancifully fry. Morrissey may have hurled such shoes into the trash with a curse: if you then bring this 'hate energy' into your life, you may experience 'negative vibrations' and even have nightmares.

Sadly, there is nothing to help you on the world's leading resource for 'celebrity shoes':

http://www.celebrityshoesize.com/category/m

You will just have to be brave and strong about this shoe dilemma. But our prophet and spiritual guide, Morrissey, has given us some guidance on this issue in the early sacred texts of The Smiths (peace be upon them all!)


'Every day you must say
Oh, how do I feel about my shoes ?
They make me awkward and plain
How dearly I would love to kick with the fray ...
I once had a dream and it never came true'
'


What can we unpack from these incredibly shoe-tastic lyrics? Well, first and most importantly: Morrissey guides us to treat our shoes as being worthy of daily meditation and contemplation. It's not a suggestion, it's a firm commandment if we are really to be serious in our dedication to 'Morrissey's World'. We 'must' reflect daily on how we feel about our footwear. We can be casual about our socks, perhaps, but we 'must' understand the emotional impact of how our shoes make us feel.

The next line tells us that not all shoes worn by His Mozjesty are equal. The shoes he was wearing whilst composing this hymn made him feel 'awkward and plain'. Would you want these shoes? Would you want that 'awkward and plain'' shoe vibe on your Morrissey altar?

Saying he would 'love to kick with the fray' is a mysterious injunction. Is this a reference to Morrissey's failure to become a professional footballer? Is it a lament for boots that he will never wear? Don't forget, he was selling football based t-shirts in Manchester.

Finally, he laments 'I once had a dream and it never came true'. Is this 'buyer's remorse' about shoe purchases? Was his dream to go into the city centre and buy a pair of new shoes as 'retail therapy' only to find that they didn't deliver the psychological support he hoped for. His dream of shoes was not fulfilled. :tears:Is this a warning to his 'fans' to be very, very careful about shoe purchases in general?

Whatever decison you make, I hope it's the right one for you. To pass up on these shoes could be a big mistake as you may never have a chance to have an intimate relationship with Morrissey's feet ever again in this incarnation. To be honest, I'm just glad I don't have to wrestle with this one. It's just soo....vast.

I'd like to thank you for this thread. It's really helped me focus on how and why we've all come together as a Morrissey 'community'. Here we can fully divulge and share the depths of our devotion without being ridiculed as fools by the cruel taunts of unbelief.

If you buy these shoes, the most difficult decision will be whether you are buried with them or pass them on to your descendants.

wishing you every possible blessing as you struggle with this

regards.
 
I agree with Amy and IM. The shoes in questions are probably not even his, and even if they were his, it just seems plain weird to me to want to purchase them.

But, since you asked, let me share this: I worked part-time in the shoe department at Macy's here in the USA for 5 years. We were taught this formula for people who were coming in to buy shoes for family members but didn't know their exact shoe sizes, using the person's height and gender.

According to a bunch of shoe-industry research suits:)squiffy: I know), men's shoe sizes-on average- are supposed to be 15.5% of their height in inches. (Women's are 14.5%)

So in Morrissey's case, using the data that he is 6 feet tall (72 inches), you can calculate:
15.5 x 72 = 1116, then divide that by 100 to get 11.16, which would equal to somewhere between an 11 and 11.5 in USA sizes.

(Anecdotally speaking, it worked out right about 60 to 75% of the time. Although, the formula gets mine wrong.:rolleyes:)

Only, Morrissey isn't 6 feet tall...he's 5'10".

Alain was the tallest member of the band and here is what he had to say:

Just one Morrissey question: How tall are you compared to Moz?
I think I might be taller than Moz - I'm 5'11". With my boots, I'm 6', and with a quiff, I'm a basketball player!
 
Why?

regards

It's just a little too personal. It's not like Elvis' sunglasses or perhaps Michael Jackson's sequinned white glove. It's a pair of shoes from a living person.

What would you do with them? Put them behind glass? It's up there with people who collect his discarded water bottles from concerts. Creepy.
 
I agree, owning a pair of his shoes is a bit much. But is it any different than people trying to get his shirt that was tossed in the audience at a show (or buying it from someone after the fact)?

Yes, I see the parallels. A shirt, well, he throws them away and so the collecting is done with his....acknowledgement? Personally I wouldn't really want a piece if it came in my direction.

But for those that do, it crosses the line when you start licking the shirt....:lbf:
 
Hmmm I can see why some would think it's creepy but isn't this site a little creepy ;)

I do have every intention of wearing the shoes if they are my size and I do trust this clear but will proceed with caution as you're bringing up some valid points. The whole opportunity feel in my lap (and hopefully later my closet!) and I was shown a photograph of Morrissey wearing said shoes during the 1990s so I feel that it's not a stretch that they might be his.

This dealer is highly reputable and even sold Ian Brown's leather windbreaker to a well known music figure but I still have my doubts.
 
Hmmm I can see why some would think it's creepy but isn't this site a little creepy ;)

I do have every intention of wearing the shoes if they are my size and I do trust this clear but will proceed with caution as you're bringing up some valid points. The whole opportunity feel in my lap (and hopefully later my closet!) and I was shown a photograph of Morrissey wearing said shoes during the 1990s so I feel that it's not a stretch that they might be his.

This dealer is highly reputable and even sold Ian Brown's leather windbreaker to a well known music figure but I still have my doubts.

You want to wear them??! I don't know if that is worse....

Are there no shoe stores where you live?

I don't think this site is especially creepy. Most discussions centre around his professional life, occasionally it dips a toe in the personal but rarely if ever crosses the line to the very private. I do remember one guy creating a site to the day he used Morrissey's toilet when his house went on the market. Some people's fandom is unsettling. There aren't threads titled "Look what I discovered in Morrissey's rubbish bin today!". [although now i think about it....:D]
 
LOL! I think it would be weird to buy some proper shoes and not wear them just having Moz's loafers on display would be odd but I could bronze them like my parents did with my baby shoes and mount them...now that would be something!
 
LOL! I think it would be weird to buy some proper shoes and not wear them just having Moz's loafers on display would be odd but I could bronze them like my parents did with my baby shoes and mount them...now that would be something!

OK. So you want to buy his shoes to wear. You would find it weird to own a pair of your own shoes while letting his shoes remain in the condition that you bought them.....why do you want a pair his shoes?
 
LOL! I think it would be weird to buy some proper shoes and not wear them just having Moz's loafers on display would be odd but I could bronze them like my parents did with my baby shoes and mount them...now that would be something!

Surely you're missing a business opportunity here? Youu could buy them, then charge other 'fans' to wear them for 5 minutes as they queue for an audience with their religious leader. I'm not sure how much you could charge to allow someone to be 'in Morrissey's shoes' but it could be as much as the concert ticket price. You would, of course, be competing with Morrissey's merchandising products for the fan £/$ so he might set security on you. Unless you cut him in on the deal, in which case he might give you a discarded plastic fork from the tour bus that his lips have actually licked.

You could attend homage parties and conventions to the Dear Leader of our so-called cult and exhibit Morrissey's Shoes as a holy relic. People could, metaphorically, 'kiss his feet'. If you could purloin some of his discarded undergarments, they could even metaphorically kiss his ass/arse, which would no doubt be equally popular. So much better than the 'Your Arse'n'al' porn.

You could steal some bricks from the walls of his childhood home or some roof tiles? Morrissey's messianic aura has doubtless infused every object and space he has ever been in. Is the 'air' around his former Los Angeles home still blessed with his spirit? Bottle it and sell it!

When Morrissey dies it would be such a waste if her were merely buried or cremated. He could be embalmed and continue to appear on stage, albeit 'dead'.

We are all so fortunate that we have this 'space' here on the WWW and that the Internet carries our communications as random data blips to be transformed into love and support for each other here in this 'community'. Surely, this site will continue for thousands of years as a 'safe place' for the worship of Morrissey, even as we expand into the solar system and beyond. How blessed we have all been to share this space/time continuum with the actual, real live Morrissey.

I simply had not realised just how important Morrissey's shoe size was to his teachings. Should I be blessed to be in his presence again, I will not waste the show looking at his face or at the screen images he chooses: I will religiously study his shoes.

We can but hope and pray that Morrissey follows his arch-nemesis Madonna and has a pop-up shop of his shoe designs. He sang a song about Dior, maybe his miraculous talents extend to shoe design?

http://fashion.telegraph.co.uk/columns/bibby-sowray/TMG9440631/Madonnas-shoes-prove-to-be-a-hit.html

Thank you so much for illuminating my mind.

Please Morrissey! We beg of you! We need your shoes! Not just CDs and T-Shirts, give us shoes.

We must all work to ensure that he gets this vital message, replacing the chant of 'Morrissey, Morrissey, Morrissey' with 'Give us shoes! Give us shoes! Give us shoes!' We must stage protests at Foot Locker and the offices of Nike and Adidas demanding that they commission shoes from our leader.

Thank God I finally found this community. And people say we're 'psychologically challenged'?

I bet Morrissey reads EVERYTHING we say.

Do not be surprised if his next public statement refers cryptically to his footwear. He is very subtle and communicates with us in many mysterious ways.

regards
 
I get it BrummieBoy you're havin' a laugh, takin the piss but check-yo-self-be-fo-you-wreck-yo-self uhmmmmkay?
When I buy these shoes, and you'll be jealous when I do, I'll be sure to send a pic of me stepping on your avatar from my Instagram (4k followers beeyoch!) and then you can make some long witty reply that doesn't matter cos I'll be in SPM's shoes driving my Vespa around with a smile. :guitar::guitar::guitar::guitar::guitar:
 
I get it BrummieBoy you're havin' a laugh, takin the piss but check-yo-self-be-fo-you-wreck-yo-self uhmmmmkay?
When I buy these shoes, and you'll be jealous when I do, I'll be sure to send a pic of me stepping on your avatar from my Instagram (4k followers beeyoch!) and then you can make some long witty reply that doesn't matter cos I'll be in SPM's shoes driving my Vespa around with a smile. :guitar::guitar::guitar::guitar::guitar:

Please note my avatar and profile pic has changed. DO NOT! step upon the sainted image of Gore Vidal or Morrissey will hunt you down and kill you. He worships Gore and based his entire public persona on him as much as on Oscar. The clueless 'moderators' of this site, however, regard Gore's passing as 'off-topic'. Morrissey's anger at this site is misdirected. It is simply risible. 'Social Networking for Social Narcissists'.

I won't be jealous of you. I'll be intrigued. Fetish culture never bores me. How will you achieve orgasm with 'the shoes'? I could put my big fat penis into one of them, whilst my secretary Sharon beats my arse to a pulp with the other one. My sperm would then merge with Morrissey's DNA and we could create a baby in our basement lab. Your screenname is a tranny allusion, so I'm not sure how you'll work this one. But good luck! Hope you get your money's worth and share with us a 'money shot' when you do.

http://www.kernelmag.com/editors-pick/2956/patron-saint-of-snark

regards

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