No depth and subtance to her work? Yes, I suppose that's why Like a Prayer made NME's top 100 albums of all time list twice while none of his did.
And he is obviously a closet (no pun intended) fan. If Moz grew up in the 80s he'd worship her like any other gay, instead of having his nose stuck in Germaine Greer books (awful woman).
Look at the camp diva nonsense he listened to - Cilla Fucking Black, Sandie Shaw, Twinkle, he even complimened the vile Lulu! - yet NOT liking the far superior Dusty. Oh and let me think, did any of his faves have minimal voices/no talent? Why yes. Nancy Sinatra probably doesn't even have a one octave range - "These Boots" famously is the easiest song to sing. Such a hypocrite.
I think Morrissey owes Madonna a beer for whipping her boob out on stage the other night and validating his point. "NO FEAR!" Lol.
She is credited with composing music and writing music - even has some sole songwriting credits, coming up with a good deal of the melodies of her songs. Does Morrissey? Oh wait, no, because he's SUCH an untouchable musical genius. Where would he be without Johnny Marr?
Moz may have been the best lyricist to walk the planet and a good singer, but don't try and slate others just cause you hate disco and have played "Panic" too many times.
Actually, Madonna writes most of her own music. Yes, she has co writers, but so do most people in the business (even those who claim they write it all themselves. Im not talking about morrissey, but about popstars)
You should try to listen to "American Life", her most critically acclaimed, yet commercially failed album from 2003. I think she wrote everything herself with a bit of help from Mirwais on a few songs. thas it. but its a wonderful record, not too "poppy" or any of that nonsense. Im sure some of you already know about this album, but if you haven't, I really recommend it. I think its the closest to the "personal" and "real" Madonna we have so far.
Actually, Madonna writes most of her own music. Yes, she has co writers, but so do most people in the business (even those who claim they write it all themselves. Im not talking about morrissey, but about popstars in general)
Madonna is not a product, if anything, people like britney spears, katy perry, and lady gaga are all based on the "madonna model", which she created herself. She makes her own decisions and if she wants to say shit then, just like morrissey, she'll say it. she isnt one to hide or kiss people's asses.
You should try to listen to "American Life", her most critically acclaimed (in europe), yet commercially failed album from 2003. I think she wrote everything herself with a bit of help from Mirwais on a few songs. c'est tout. its a wonderful record, not too "poppy" or any of that nonsense. Im sure some of you already know about this album, but if you haven't, I really recommend it. I think its the closest to the "personal" and "real" Madonna we have so far. Even critics in the same league of "pitchfork" in europe praised this album and madonna herself for a long time for it.
One thing you have to realize: Madonna makes amazing work, but she doesnt always release singles or videos for it. look for the songs on her albums, the non-singles. ray of light, music, american life and erotica albums. it goes so much deeper than "pop" or "dance". american life is the furthest thing from "dance" or "pop".
Can anybody upload the scans of the full interview with him?or maybe it will be published next week?
Madonna does suck. Even Bjork thinks she sucks and she gave Bedtime Stories to Madonna and M pretty much ruined it. Of course, some people will say that she didn't ruin it...but I'm sure Bjork cringes at the sound of her rendition of the song. And she's lasted this long for the same reason Justin Bieber and Katy Perry make so much money. Most people are brainless and will buy anything that makes them dance.
"He is talking utter nonsense. "Borderline", "Ray of Light", "Like a Prayer", "Into the Groove", "Express Yourself" and many others are quite simply brilliant pop songs."
When I heard Madonna pretentiously talking about her work on stage as an 'Art-Installation', or mentioning adopting an african child, etc... etc... I just laughed, and thought 'how right was-is Moz about her'! And he is... She's a bluff and 90% of her work is redundant, histerical and absolutely minor....
that "#mattwalker" thing is one of the funniest things I have read here in a long while
almost makes me want to re-think how I feel about anonymous posting, almost
now as for the whole Moz v Madonna, it really gets me in a weird because see
back in the mid 80s I had posters on my bedroom walls, they included one of Madonna scantily clad
and on the other side of my bedroom door was one of "The Smiths"
these posters and my black door(I painted it) were what I looked at as I went to sleep
and sometimes when I woke early it was to imagining Madonna, you know
but then those boys for "The Smiths" would stare back at me with their mocking eyes, judging me
and often staying my hand
so yeah, when I read Moz hatred of Madonna, all I can think of him still being a prude
Hilarious the amount of Madonna groupies bothering to come here to defend the indefensible (best line so far: "Google is your friend" - as though everything on the internet is both accurate and impartial!) I suppose it makes a change from reading the usual whining of Moz fans pretending not to be, pretending to be over and above it all, and offering SPM the benefit of their peerless wisdom and insight...
Why is this site still going? What's the point?
And Mr Logic, Bieber and Perry have only been around a couple of years so at least make a comparison, that, y'know, makes sense. If "most people are brainless" I'd hate to think what that makes you.