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    Default Article: "Morrissey's retirement will be the perfect ending" - The Guardian

    Good article (with comments) about Morrissey's alleged impending retirement. news to me, and probably to him.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...perfect-ending
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    Default Re: Morrissey's retirement will be the perfect ending - the Grauniad

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebirds View Post
    Good article (with comments) about Morrissey's alleged impending retirement. news to me, and probably to him.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...perfect-ending
    That wasn't exactly a flattering article. The sledgehammer comes down in the first line. Did you miss it?

    "In 1987, shortly before his powers left him..."

    I like Owen Hatherley. He's excellent on other topics. Here, he seems to be one of the early fans who did not follow Morrissey closely after The Smiths split. "[H]e wrote the same songs about thwarted ambition and loneliness well into his 50s" is inaccurate. Thwarted ambition and loneliness remain favorite subjects, yes, but I don't think Morrissey kept re-writing the same songs. I wish some of these critics and essayists would notice.

    Generally, though, I agree with the sentiment that Morrissey should leave in the next year or two and avoid the awful trend of zombie rock and rollers cluttering stages around the world.

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    Default Re: Article: "Morrissey's retirement will be the perfect ending" - The Guardian

    Putting words in his mouth. He hasn't announced retirement, he was vaguely estimating. He's also said that he might go on til he dies on stage!

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    Moz is no zombie! Morrisseys way too kind, way too human be that. Proof? Morrissey is emotional and shares his emotions with us all! What more can we ask for? Thanks Morrissey!
    P.S. No more bashing & unkindness to those who are decent among us. Why?

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    Yeah right......Moz is for life....It aint over till the fat lady sings....

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    I doubt that he'll do it when it comes to the crunch. And there are ways to continue with dignity and relevance well into old age, Leonard Cohen being the prime example.

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    The article is pretty dead on; his solo material, up to the past two-three albums, was brilliant, but the "more recent" lyrics and music are substandard. I am not looking for a pissing match, nor am I being overly critical. Just stating an opinion.

    His material with Street, and Boz, Alain, Gary, and Spencer will always be my favorites.

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    Default Re: Article: "Morrissey's retirement will be the perfect ending" - The Guardian

    He has been touring like a twenty something....He needs to rest and later next year release a brand new Studio Album.
    Cheers Moz

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    The Guardian can get stuffed!

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    If he is going to release a new album, then he needs to go back to his roots--maybe become a bit more emotional and reflective--like he was after the disintegration of The Smiths.

    His lyrics back then were reflective and very intricate/solid. The recent output is pretty much the ravings of an angry popstar who is unhappy with his life.

    End on a high note--go back to Street and go out as you came in--in style.

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    Default Re: Article: "Morrissey's retirement will be the perfect ending" - The Guardian

    Quote Originally Posted by Because View Post
    Putting words in his mouth. He hasn't announced retirement, he was vaguely estimating. He's also said that he might go on til he dies on stage!
    you're right

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    Quote Originally Posted by nozmuppet View Post
    Yeah right......Moz is for life....It aint over till the fat lady sings....
    boz??

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    I love the man and will carry my Moz and Smiths albums to the grave. Despite the bad journalism of these articles, the idea of Moz's retirement is a good thing and 55 seems a perfectably respectable age to retire. Pop music is a young person's game. Period.

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    that was a terrible article from the Guardian.

    if Morrissey had retired on Vauxhall And I, he would've left a resume beyond all criticism. if he never returned from his self-imposed exile post-Maladjusted, it would've made a brave, bold statement worthy of his legacy.

    the comeback in the 00's, despite yielding a few gems, did much to tarnish the legend, not just by lowering the bar musically, by raising it with respect to his petulant behaviour. if he truly is retiring, while it is long overdue, it should be welcome by most at this point- judging by the new songs, there's clearly nothing left in the tank.

    recently, icame up with an idea as to when an artist/band should retire- if none of your last 5 albums rank within your top 5 albums, it's time to hang it up. by this, Moz is leaving at the right time as none of Southpaw Grammar, Maladjusted, You Are The Quarry, Ringleader Of The Tormentors or Years Of Refusal measure into the same class his Smiths output or his first four solo albums, plus Bona Drag.

    it's over and that's okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nozmuppet View Post
    Yeah right......Moz is for life....It aint over till the fat lady sings....
    Moz is the fat lady at this point and that's why it is over.
    "I'm just passing through here on my way to somewhere civilised and maybe I'll even arrive,
    maybe I'll even arrive...."

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisarclark View Post
    that was a terrible article from the Guardian.


    recently, icame up with an idea as to when an artist/band should retire- if none of your last 5 albums rank within your top 5 albums, it's time to hang it up. by this, Moz is leaving at the right time as none of Southpaw Grammar, Maladjusted, You Are The Quarry, Ringleader Of The Tormentors or Years Of Refusal measure into the same class his Smiths output or his first four solo albums, plus Bona Drag.

    it's over and that's okay.
    Crap idea. What if any of the last five albums are the artist's favourite? Morrissey has said that Refusal is one of his so why should he stop? If you don't like them you don't have to buy them

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisarclark View Post
    recently, icame up with an idea as to when an artist/band should retire- if none of your last 5 albums rank within your top 5 albums, it's time to hang it up. by this, Moz is leaving at the right time as none of Southpaw Grammar, Maladjusted, You Are The Quarry, Ringleader Of The Tormentors or Years Of Refusal measure into the same class his Smiths output or his first four solo albums, plus Bona Drag.
    Well, all those albums are better than Kill Uncle...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisarclark View Post
    that was a terrible article from the Guardian.

    if Morrissey had retired on Vauxhall And I, he would've left a resume beyond all criticism. if he never returned from his self-imposed exile post-Maladjusted, it would've made a brave, bold statement worthy of his legacy.

    the comeback in the 00's, despite yielding a few gems, did much to tarnish the legend, not just by lowering the bar musically, by raising it with respect to his petulant behaviour. if he truly is retiring, while it is long overdue, it should be welcome by most at this point- judging by the new songs, there's clearly nothing left in the tank.

    recently, icame up with an idea as to when an artist/band should retire- if none of your last 5 albums rank within your top 5 albums, it's time to hang it up. by this, Moz is leaving at the right time as none of Southpaw Grammar, Maladjusted, You Are The Quarry, Ringleader Of The Tormentors or Years Of Refusal measure into the same class his Smiths output or his first four solo albums, plus Bona Drag.

    it's over and that's okay.
    Very well said. You are spot on about the quality of his releases. And, if he is most proud of Refusal, then this shows how his judgment and creativity have declined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisarclark View Post
    Moz is the fat lady at this point and that's why it is over.
    Sacre Bleu...... Moz is the best Lyrcist/vocalist of his generation once again without a record deal.

    Do we ask Paul Weller to retire, still coming up with the goods on recent albums. (Nah)

    It`s only once Moz is allowed to release music, can you judge if he`s still musically relevant.

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    Believe it when you read it on TTY other than that its bullshit.

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