Where does Andy Rourke live?

[stephsteph]

OMG this thread must die. Who cares.

[Anonymous]

OMG this thread must die. Who cares.

But where does he live?

And what did Andy Rourke and his people do to the New York Yankees Nick Swisher?

[lindsey1151]

OMG this thread must die. Who cares.

[nothappynotsad]

OMG this thread must die. Who cares.

Please, let's continue to perpetuate the illness.

[123xyz]

What do you mean by lets continue to perpetuate the illness?

Why does Andy Rourke's girlfriend Francesca 'Fran' Mor describe herself a 'swinger' on Myspace? She also says she smokes and drinks. I don't like smoking. Andy Rourke also smokes. Why does Fran wear what looks like a goats head mask or rams head mask on her head?

http://www.myspace.com/malatesta39

'Swinging' which is sometimes called 'Partner Swapping' is a non-monogamous behavior, in which singles or partners in committed relationships, sometimes married couples engage in sexual activities with others as a recreational or social activity. 'Swinging' can take place in a number of contexts, ranging from spontaneous sexual activity at informal gatherings of friends, to planned regular social meetings, to hooking up with like-minded people at a 'Swingers' Club'. It can also involve Internet-based swinger social networking services online. The phenomenon of swinging, or at least its wider discussion and practice, is regarded by some as arising from the upsurge in sexual activity during the sexual revolution of the 1960s. Orgies are sometimes connected with swinging, in modern usage, an orgy is a sex party where guests freely engage in open and unrestrained sexual activity or group sex.

Do Andy & Fran have a sort of 'Open Relationship'? Where by they can both have flings/sexual encounters with different people. Being a Christian I think that kind of thing is totally wrong. I also think swearing, smoking, drinking a lot of alcohol and drug taking is wrong.

This is the photo of Fran on Myspace wearing what looks like a goats head mask or rams head mask on her head:

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I know it looked dreadful in "One Flew Over The Cuckoos..." but why do lobotomies get such bad press ?

[Tom Tom Club]

I know it looked dreadful in "One Flew Over The Cuckoos..." but why do lobotomies get such bad press ?

Because they are wrong full stop. They are cruel and barbaric.

[Anonymous]

Because they are wrong full stop. They are cruel and barbaric.

How christian of you to be judging other people in public.
Specially people you don't know.

Way to go jesus freak!!!

[Tom Tom Club]

How christian of you to be judging other people in public.
Specially people you don't know.

Way to go jesus freak!!!

I'm a born-again Christian not a "Jesus freak". I don't judge anyone. It's up to God to judge people, so I leave that up to him. I'm aware these people are not born-again Christians. If they were born-again Christians they would not be doing the things they do! I feel sorry for them because I know how tough a life without God and living a life without morals is. I love the sinner but not the sin. And yes we all sin, even Christians sin, we would not be human if we did not sin. I pray for them, prayer is very powerful! By the grace of God alone we are saved!

A 'Lobotomy' is a neurosurgical procedure, a form of psychosurgery. It consists of cutting the connections to and from the prefrontal cortex, the anterior part of the frontal lobes of the brain. I think lobotomies are cruel, barbaric and wrong.

Jesus Christ said in 'The Bible' in Matthew 10:22 "And you will be hated by all men for My name's sake":




But please do not be disturbed instead be comforted and remember that no other power is more powerful than our creator The Father Lord God Almighty and his son Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour. With God and Jesus, you are strong even when you are weak. When you are hurt, persecuted, or feel sad, and all alone, it is then that he God is carrying you! But don't forget that whenever you feel your own strength has run out, The Lord's strength always takes over! I put my faith in trust in God and Jesus alone and not in humans.

'The Bible' says in Ephesians 5:11 "Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them".

It worried me a great deal when Morrissey said at one of his concerts that he didn't care if he went to hell.

I'm well aware that the ram's horns/goat's horns on Francesca's head represents 'Satan'. Fran may not be aware of this and might be just wearing the mask as a 'cool' or 'trendy' fashion statement. But I'm aware of the deeper meaning and symbolism.

I also think swearing, smoking, drinking alcohol to excess, using recreational drugs, gambling and hedonism is wrong. And being a 'Swinger' is a sin and committing adultery is a sin. I also think trying to threaten, bully, intimidate people is wrong. And being rude and dishonest is wrong.

'The Bible' says in Luke 6:37 “Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.”

Being a Christian is about forgiveness and repentance. I repent for my sins in prayer.

[Anonymous]

I'm aware of the deeper meaning.

*Calling CrystalGezer* ... Yes, Crystal, there's a man here to marry you.

[Anonymous]

I'm a born again Christian not a 'Jesus freak'. I don't judge anyone. It's up to God to judge people, so I leave that up to him. I'm aware these people are not born again Christians. If they were born again Christians they would not be doing the things they do. I feel sorry for them because I know how tough a life without God and living a life without morals is. I love the sinner but not the sin. And yes we all sin, even Christians sin, we would not be human if we did not sin. I pray for them, prayer is very powerful! By the grace of God alone we are saved.

A 'Lobotomy' is a neurosurgical procedure, a form of psychosurgery. It consists of cutting the connections to and from the prefrontal cortex, the anterior part of the frontal lobes of the brain. I think lobotomies are cruel, barbaric and wrong.

Jesus Christ said in 'The Bible' in Matthew 10:22 "And you will be hated by all men for My name's sake":




Do not be disturbed but instead be comforted and remember that no other power is more powerful than The Lord God our Saviour. With Him, you are strong even when you are weak. When you are hurt, persecuted, or feel sad, and all alone, it is then that He God is carrying you! But don't forget that whenever you feel your own strength has run out, The Lord's strength always takes over! I put my faith in trust in God and Jesus alone and not in humans.

'The Bible' says in Ephesians 5:11 "Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them".

It worried me a great deal when Morrissey said he didn't care if he went to hell, at one of his concerts.

I'm well aware that the ram's horns/goat's horns on Fran's head represents 'Satan'. Fran may not be aware of this and might be just wearing the mask as a 'cool' fashion statement. But I'm aware of the deeper meaning.

I also think swearing, smoking, drinking alcohol to excess, drug taking and hedonism is wrong. And being a 'swinger' is wrong. I also think trying to threaten, bully, intimidate people is wrong. And being rude is wrong.

'The Bible' says in Luke 6:37 “Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.”

Being a Christian is about forgiveness and repentance. I repent for my sins in prayer.

[DAVIE]

I'm a born again Christian not a 'Jesus freak'. I don't judge anyone. It's up to God to judge people, so I leave that up to him

Are you even here for Morrissey? I am confused. I wouldn't go on a Christian forum and preach Morrissey to you.

[Tom Tom Club]

Are you even here for Morrissey? I am confused. I wouldn't go on a Christian forum and preach Morrissey to you.

I'm for Morrissey up to a point. But I saw Morrissey in concert once and he said he didn't care if he went to hell. Being a Christian this worried me a great deal. Also some of Morrissey's political views worry me. Morrissey can't 'save me from my sins' only Jesus Christ can do that! I think Johnny Marr and Mike Joyce are ok as people but I don't think they are Christians as far as I can work out. Morrissey isn't a Christian. It's sad because they were all brought up Roman Catholics but have turned away from the Christian faith. Only Andy Rourke still calls himself a Christian/Catholic and wears a cross.

I'm interested to know what Andy Rourke and his crew did to the New York Yankees Nick Swisher?

This is in general discussion about where Andy Rourke is living.

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What is Conviction of Sin?

(John 16:8) What is Conviction of Sin? Few Christians can define this vital theological term and even less can discern when it is present.

Conviction of Sin is NOT:

The ordinary smiting of a guilty conscience.

A mere head knowledge of what The Bible says about sin.

A shallow acknowledgement that ‘‘I’ve made a lot of mistakes.’’

A mere fear of going to hell.

Even an admission of sin. As Pharoah, Saul, Balaam and Judas all said “I have sinned.” and went to hell.

True Holy Spirit Conviction of Sin is a proper sense of the dreadfulness of one’s sinnership and sin against God (Psa 51:4, Lu 15:18). It is when a person inwardly feels and owns the wickedness and rebellion of their depraved heart.

A stranger to 'conviction' (of sin) is a stranger to 'repentance'; and a stranger to 'repentance' must be a stranger to 'salvation' for, “Unless you repent you will all perish” (Lu 13:5).

Which raises another term that is little understood throughout evangelicalism, namely 'Repentance'.

Repentance was John the Baptist and the Lord Jesus’ first spoken word in public ministry (Matt 3:1, Mk 1:15). Paul defined the very gospel itself as ‘Repentance and Faith’, and summarized the message he had preached throughout his entire life as simply, “Repent and turn to God ” (Acts 20:21, 26:20). But theological terms need to be defined carefully.

What is Repentance?

Repentance is NOT:

Penance or restitution.

Mere tears and trembling. (Acts 24:25)

Fear of judgment. ‘‘Multitudes desire to be saved from hell (the natural instinct of self-preservation) who are quite unwilling to be saved from sin. There are tens of thousands who have been deluded into thinking that they have ‘accepted Christ as their Saviour’ whose lives plainly show that they have rejected Him as their Lord. For a sinner to obtain the pardon of God, he must forsake his way.’’

Remorse. We must all learn to distinguish between the sorrow that comes from being caught & the sorrow that comes from a deep, inward hatred of sin and longing for the glory of God that is the distinguishing feature of the regenerate person.

Confession or admission of sin. Salvation is never promised to those who confess their sin. (1 John 1:9 is a promise to Christians).

Reformation or turning over a new leaf.

True Biblical 'Repentance', which always accompanies genuine believing faith, may be defined as follows:

A complete change of one’s sinful heart, involving a turning from sin to God, which results in a change of life. Clearly no one can turn to a righteous God without first turning from their own unrighteousness. When God reveals to the sinner a real consciousness of what he is in God’s sight, and he personally recognizes his wickedness and inner corruption, he is willing to repudiate sin from his heart.

Repentance is NOT someone saying, ‘‘I felt guilty about my adultery so I stopped it years ago.”

It is rather, “I now realise I am a lost, undone and guilty sinner through and through, deserving nothing but the eternal wrath of God in hell.’’ It is a permanent change of outlook, ambition and heart (mind, will and affection) wrought by the Holy Spirit of God.

[Anonymous]

Also Andy Rourke was declared bankrupt by the courts, back in 1999. Which is another reason why his work visa should of been denied.
I believe Andy Rourke may of been declared bankrupt more than once.

Isn't someone who lives illegally in America called an "Illegal alien"?

[Tom Tom Club]

Andy Rourke & Rocco Recycle jamming a Rocco Recycle song in New York, 2012:



Andy Rourke's new band called 'Jetlag' cover the song "Vanishing Point" by New Order in New York, 2012:



Jamming with Andy Rourke in Phoenix, Arizona 2010. The tune is "Barbarism Begins at Home" by The Smiths:



The band 'Team Facelift' in Studio w/ the famous Junior Sanchez & Andy Rourke in New York? in 2010?:




I always thought it was strange that Andy Rourke likes the band 'Nirvana' and Kurt Cobain better than 'The Smiths' and Morrissey.

Maybe Andy Rourke should join the 'Foo Fighters'? Or maybe 'Oasis'?

Nirvana performing "The Man Who Sold The World" (a David Bowie cover). 1994. Geffen Records:



Nirvana - "Come As You Are" (music video):

[Anonymous]

I heard Nick Swisher had some kind of run in with Andy Rourke and his entourage. Nick had no clue who this guy was and it just made him madder.

Do you mean it made Andy Rourke more mad? Or Nick Swisher more mad?

[Anonymous]

Also Andy Rourke was declared bankrupt by the courts, back in 1999. Which is another reason why his work visa should of been denied.
I believe Andy Rourke may of been declared bankrupt more than once.

Why the fuck should the fact he has been declared bankrupt in the UK have any effect on his ability to get a visa in the USA?
He would only have got a visa if he had evidence of work / payment. Therefore he enters the USA, gets paid, pays taxes etc.
His past in the UK has no baring on this at all.

I'm more concerned about whether he supports the New York Yankees or the New York Mets

Jukebox Jury

[Anonymous]

Why the fuck should the fact he has been declared bankrupt in the UK have any effect on his ability to get a visa in the USA?
He would only have got a visa if he had evidence of work / payment. Therefore he enters the USA, gets paid, pays taxes etc.
His past in the UK has no baring on this at all.

I'm more concerned about whether he supports the New York Yankees or the New York Mets

Jukebox Jury

It's not just that. Also Andy Rourke was busted for buying heroin in Oldham back in the 1980s. Andy Rourke was convinced that he would go to prison. As it turned out, when the police operation presented its scalps to a court in Mold, North Wales, he was the only defendant of 25 to avoid jail: he was given a two-year suspended sentence and fined £1,000.

Do you know if Andy Rourke is now paying taxes in the USA rather than in the UK?

[Anonymous]

It's not just that. Also Andy Rourke was busted for buying heroin in Oldham back in the 1980s. Andy Rourke was convinced that he would go to prison. As it turned out, when the police operation presented its scalps to a court in Mold, North Wales, he was the only defendant of 25 to avoid jail: he was given a two-year suspended sentence and fined £1,000.

Do you know if Andy Rourke is now paying taxes in the USA rather than in the UK?

I don't think the drug bust would stop him from getting a work visa to live and work in America as it was so long ago. Andy Rourke doesn't have any qualifications but that shouldn't stop him from getting a work visa I don't think? But I don't know much about it. I also don't know if work visas run out after 3 years?

Anyway I think it's so cool Andy Rourke is living it up in New York with his lovely new girlfriend! Stop worrying about Andy Rourke he is doing very well for himself these days and there is no need to feel sorry for him anymore. I know a lot of people feel sorry for Andy Rourke, as he seems hard done by, but there is no reason for it really.

[Tom Tom Club]

I don't think the drug bust would stop him from getting a work visa to live and work in America as it was so long ago. Andy Rourke doesn't have any qualifications but that shouldn't stop him from getting a work visa I don't think? But I don't know much about it. I also don't know if work visas run out after 3 years?

Anyway I think it's so cool Andy Rourke is living it up in New York with his lovely new girlfriend! Stop worrying about Andy Rourke he is doing very well for himself these days and there is no need to feel sorry for him anymore. I know a lot of people feel sorry for Andy Rourke, as he seems hard done by, but there is no reason for it really.

Andy Rourke is now married to his girlfriend Francesca or 'Fran'. So if Francesca is an American woman/citizen then I guess Andy Rourke shouldn't have any problems getting his 'Green Card' or whatever now.

It’s literally 'third time’s the charm' for visiting DJ Andy Rourke when he spins once again at DJ Nocturna’s regular 1980s Pop Muzik dance event Saturday night at "Bar 35" in Honolulu, Hawaii. After two visits in 2006 and 2007, the 48-year-old Andy Rourke returns this year as a newlywed, after marrying his girlfriend Francesca Mor on June 22nd 2012. So, as he puts it, the Hawaii visit will be a “Working honeymoon.”

This event took place on Saturday June 30th 2012.

So is Ms. Francesca Mor now known as Mrs. Francesca Rourke?

In this video Andy Rourke is playing some tunes: The Sugarhill Gang's - "Rapper's Delight", "Barbarism Begins at Home" by The Smiths & Joy Division's "She's Lost Control" on a special 'U Bass' guitar on July 4th, 2012 in Honolulu, Hawaii:

[Kewpie]

Andy Rourke is now married to his girlfriend Francesca or 'Fran'. So if Francesca is an American woman/citizen then I guess Andy Rourke shouldn't have any problems getting his 'Green Card' or whatever now.

It’s literally 'third time’s the charm' for visiting DJ Andy Rourke when he spins once again at DJ Nocturna’s regular ’80s Pop Muzik dance event Saturday night in 'Bar 35' Honolulu, Hawaii. After two visits in 2006 and ’07, the 48-year-old Andy Rourke returns this year as a newlywed, after marrying his girlfriend Francesca Mor on June 22nd 2012. So, as he puts it, the Hawaii visit will be a “working honeymoon.”

So is Francesca Mor now known as Mrs. Francesca Rourke?

It's not as simple as you imagine.

Very silly to resurrect this thread.