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Gothy
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Of course they do, of course they do... (oi!)
> thats sad that you assume that a difference of opinion is being¿ defensive
Is it not defensive to call me sad? heh... The non-defensive thing to say would have been "I was simply stating a difference of opinion." Or simply to have said nothing at all.
Oh, and btw, you ignored my main point again... but maybe that's because it was sound. I think your posts to "the King" say that you know there are people in need... and maybe now you see that sometimes, in a capitalist society, (since there is LOSS to make profit) people go unemployed... that your resentment lies with those you deem lazy. Have you ever spoken with them? I think at least half of the people you're talking about are gravely mentally ill. Just my opinion...¿ the fact is your trying to make it sound like it's 20 people¿ doing.. it is alot bigger then you think... Just because you¿ don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist..
Well, I have known quite a few welfare recipients... I have volunteered with agencies that come in constant contact with people on assistance... and I've never encountered one "welfare mother." I also have family members who have been on aid and became productive. I have also read several studies that quote the percentage as quite low... oh well, I tire of the argument anyway... I'm just on here to forget about all the really sh!tty people in the world (the ones that are trying to d!ck me over right now... oh deary me...)¿ Yeah I guess I was the only one No it wasn't a¿ "Phase" I could'nt do it because of my social¿ responsiblity.. Many of the kids I grew up with are still doing¿ and are no better off.. and the fact is I just moved to another¿ state, another city and it's the same here.. just the faces have¿ changed. I admited that there are some people that need¿ assistance.. but for a long period of time..i mean how can you¿ expect me to help someone who isn't willing to help themselves??¿ I use to work construction and my boss would offer these morons¿ who stand on our off ramps begging for money jobs and they would¿ make excuses on why they couldn't come to work.. and i don't¿ mean it happend once. the point is more of our tax dollars go to¿ supporting people who don't fully need.. that abuse the system¿ and if you want to remain blind and give these people the¿ benifit of the doubt then fine but I have been there .. I have¿ trained hopped all over this country and been to almost every¿ city.. it's not just in my little world or my cirlce of¿ friends.. it's everywhere
Like I said earlier, there are factors you may not be considering, one of which is the mental health of the people you describe.¿ Yeah thats fine you do.. and if it makes you feel warm and fuzzy¿ then I guess you can sleep easier.. thats fine.. the point is I¿ can't afford to do that.. I hardly make enough to keep myself¿ afloat.. much less people who don't even try and frankly I don't¿ care anymore. I guess that makes me cold or whatever. so be it
No, it doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy... well, it often does, but it also often makes me dog tired, because I work 13 hours a day for $2 an hour taking care of those kids. Yes, you read that correctly, $2 an hour. Fortunately I have a fiance that makes enough to pay most of the bills. After we've narrowly broken even, I give whatever extra money my fiance has earned that week to my family members I am trying to keep off the street. So touche, I suppose. I don't want to seem holier than thou... I just want you to know that someone who is being screwed over by a lot of people right now can still work for nothing but the gratitude of a few small children who get nothing at home except for the floor they sleep on. And I still have enough compassion to believe that our capitalistic system is what is keeping people down... that and over-population. etc... etc...
I'm damn tired tonight. I just found out that on top of my $25,000 debt, my father has just screwed me with $80,000 more... oh, sh!t, what am I telling you this for? I guess I'm just feeling like telling it to someone... and I don't feel like burdening the children. I hope you don't mind... and, oh well, I suppose it could be worse. I could be mentally ill, homeless, sleeping on concrete, with people walking by judging me... (not necessarily you, NT, but you know there are people who do)
Take care,
Gothy
> thats sad that you assume that a difference of opinion is being¿ defensive
Is it not defensive to call me sad? heh... The non-defensive thing to say would have been "I was simply stating a difference of opinion." Or simply to have said nothing at all.
Oh, and btw, you ignored my main point again... but maybe that's because it was sound. I think your posts to "the King" say that you know there are people in need... and maybe now you see that sometimes, in a capitalist society, (since there is LOSS to make profit) people go unemployed... that your resentment lies with those you deem lazy. Have you ever spoken with them? I think at least half of the people you're talking about are gravely mentally ill. Just my opinion...¿ the fact is your trying to make it sound like it's 20 people¿ doing.. it is alot bigger then you think... Just because you¿ don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist..
Well, I have known quite a few welfare recipients... I have volunteered with agencies that come in constant contact with people on assistance... and I've never encountered one "welfare mother." I also have family members who have been on aid and became productive. I have also read several studies that quote the percentage as quite low... oh well, I tire of the argument anyway... I'm just on here to forget about all the really sh!tty people in the world (the ones that are trying to d!ck me over right now... oh deary me...)¿ Yeah I guess I was the only one No it wasn't a¿ "Phase" I could'nt do it because of my social¿ responsiblity.. Many of the kids I grew up with are still doing¿ and are no better off.. and the fact is I just moved to another¿ state, another city and it's the same here.. just the faces have¿ changed. I admited that there are some people that need¿ assistance.. but for a long period of time..i mean how can you¿ expect me to help someone who isn't willing to help themselves??¿ I use to work construction and my boss would offer these morons¿ who stand on our off ramps begging for money jobs and they would¿ make excuses on why they couldn't come to work.. and i don't¿ mean it happend once. the point is more of our tax dollars go to¿ supporting people who don't fully need.. that abuse the system¿ and if you want to remain blind and give these people the¿ benifit of the doubt then fine but I have been there .. I have¿ trained hopped all over this country and been to almost every¿ city.. it's not just in my little world or my cirlce of¿ friends.. it's everywhere
Like I said earlier, there are factors you may not be considering, one of which is the mental health of the people you describe.¿ Yeah thats fine you do.. and if it makes you feel warm and fuzzy¿ then I guess you can sleep easier.. thats fine.. the point is I¿ can't afford to do that.. I hardly make enough to keep myself¿ afloat.. much less people who don't even try and frankly I don't¿ care anymore. I guess that makes me cold or whatever. so be it
No, it doesn't make me feel warm and fuzzy... well, it often does, but it also often makes me dog tired, because I work 13 hours a day for $2 an hour taking care of those kids. Yes, you read that correctly, $2 an hour. Fortunately I have a fiance that makes enough to pay most of the bills. After we've narrowly broken even, I give whatever extra money my fiance has earned that week to my family members I am trying to keep off the street. So touche, I suppose. I don't want to seem holier than thou... I just want you to know that someone who is being screwed over by a lot of people right now can still work for nothing but the gratitude of a few small children who get nothing at home except for the floor they sleep on. And I still have enough compassion to believe that our capitalistic system is what is keeping people down... that and over-population. etc... etc...
I'm damn tired tonight. I just found out that on top of my $25,000 debt, my father has just screwed me with $80,000 more... oh, sh!t, what am I telling you this for? I guess I'm just feeling like telling it to someone... and I don't feel like burdening the children. I hope you don't mind... and, oh well, I suppose it could be worse. I could be mentally ill, homeless, sleeping on concrete, with people walking by judging me... (not necessarily you, NT, but you know there are people who do)
Take care,
Gothy