Vegetabletarianism

[Lonsdale71]

as long as you cook me bacon and sausages, you can stay my friend

You are on the wrong website honey!

[CrystalGeezer]

it's "semantics". a lot of people eat fish and call themselves vegetarian too. just like your friend, they are not.

Semantics. Thank you for correcting me. It was probably all that gelatin clouding my reasoning and attention to sp ellin g.


Are people who are missing a limb not human because humans semantically have two legs and two arms and a head?

She's a vegetarian.

[No Place Like Rome]

You are on the wrong website honey!

'Honey'??? Do you know where to find me?

[Girl-with-the-Thorn]

It's a difficult one really. With that comment I just think Moz was trying to reinforce what an important part of his life it is and how strongly he feels about the cause.

This I wholeheartedly admire- even though I do personally eat meat, I have a huge amount of respect for ALL vegetarians (even the RARE ones who are seen as being 'militant' or 'pushy' about it), because they have incredible principles, willpower, and morals, as well as having the courage to make people think about what they are doing/eating.

At the end of the day, it's a life choice that people either make or don't- if they don't, that's their choice, whatever the moral implications, and if they do, again it's a decision that they make, and all credit to them.

[lainey]

It's a difficult one really. With that comment I just think Moz was trying to reinforce what an important part of his life it is and how strongly he feels about the cause.

This I wholeheartedly admire- even though I do personally eat meat, I have a huge amount of respect for ALL vegetarians (even the RARE ones who are seen as being 'militant' or 'pushy' about it), because they have incredible principles, willpower, and morals, as well as having the courage to make people think about what they are doing/eating.

At the end of the day, it's a life choice that people either make or don't- if they don't, that's their choice, whatever the moral implications, and if they do, again it's a decision that they make, and all credit to them.

thank you

[Lonsdale71]

'Honey'??? Do you know where to find me?

No, this is serious. No joke. I don't think you should be talking about bacon & sausages on Morrissey solo. I don't think many people will find it funny.

[yesitis]

Semantics. Thank you for correcting me. It was probably all that gelatin clouding my reasoning and attention to sp ellin g.


Are people who are missing a limb not human because humans semantically have two legs and two arms and a head?

She's a vegetarian.

i don't think you really understand the idea of semantics.

we could go back and forth all day. unfortunately, you will always be wrong. she is not a vegetarian. gelatin is made from bones, ligaments, tendons and skin. vegetarians do not eat these things. your friend is someone who doesn't eat cuts of meat, not a vegetarian.

[kurious oranj]

Would Morrissey restrict himself to only a phone friendship with Oscar Wilde given the opportunity?

I try not to make blanket generalisations on people based on their diet. I know some vegetarians who are wonderful, some who are twats; some meat-eaters are brilliant, some the scum of the earth. It must be appreciated that for most people the consumption of meat is entirely disconnected from the act of slaughter and loss of animal life. Eating a ham sandwich is not necessarily a reflection of a cruel and callous nature and vegetarianism is no guarantee someone is compassionate and considerate in other aspects of their life. So if Morrissey really believes what he said I think it's very stupid. I don't think he does though, it's just another example of his gross exaggeration to convey his strength of feeling on the matter.

I am very sorry but in all honesty you cannot be "happy" and eat meat at the same time.

You can be happily ignorant at the moment but as long as you'll eat meat, you will not be happy.

Vegetarianism will not bring you happiness. Happiness and moral satisfaction are not the same thing. I have never eaten meat and honestly do not believe my life up to this point would have been a less happy one had I eaten meat. Vegetarianism may make you feel like you're being a better person, that you're doing all you can to minimise suffering on this hellish earth, but vegetarianism won't keep you warm at night or give you that warm feeling inside when you feel that your existence is right. I don't understand how you can believe what you've said and ever be truly happy. Sorry if that seems harsh, but you said the same thing to someone else based merely on the fact they eat meat so....

Christ, what am I doing on here at this time ranting about this?

[Raphael Lambach]

i would do the same.

It's a bit easier for me, since nobody wants to friends with me anyway.

no true friends in modern life

[CrystalGeezer]

i don't think you really understand the idea of semantics.

we could go back and forth all day. unfortunately, you will always be wrong. she is not a vegetarian. gelatin is made from bones, ligaments, tendons and skin. vegetarians do not eat these things. your friend is someone who doesn't eat cuts of meat, not a vegetarian.

Fine, I'm wrong. I'll give you that. I never claimed to be Noam Chomsky. I'll just have to be at peace with the idea that my vigilantly non meat-eating friend is not a vegetarian.

[yesitis]

Fine, I'm wrong. I'll give you that. I never claimed to be Noam Chomsky. I'll just have to be at peace with the idea that my vigilantly non meat-eating friend is not a vegetarian.

cool beans!

so when did you go veggie?

[jwizjam]

The meat industry is cruel, inhumane and unnecessary. Unfortunately, people will never stop eating meat until it ceases to exist on the planet. I would not go out and shoot a deer but I have more tolerance for people who do and eat that meat than those who go to the supermarket and buy it. The injustices and cruelty that exist in the meat industry are intolerable for me as an animal lover. I do not eat meat because I love animals and think that we as humans should be smarter about our choices for dinner. I respect Morrissey for (as always) staying true to himself and not "dining" with carnivores. I would rather pet a cow than eat it.

[brutalityobscene]

Not all vegetarians preach meat eaters to stop eating meat.
Some do.

Agreed, but a good majority use it for self-righteousness. They might as well go and become good christians, as they're mostly bad people anyway. . . I steer away from meat products in my diet, but hardcore vegetarianism irritates the hell out of me.

[brutalityobscene]

Agreed, but a good majority use it for self-righteousness. They might as well go and become good christians, as they're mostly bad people anyway. . . I steer away from meat products in my diet, but hardcore vegetarianism irritates the hell out of me.

Didn't really mean to use "majority" in that statement. A vocal few, though.

[MindlessRuffian]

Does it frustrate you that no matter who you are, how devout a fan, how much you love Morrissey - he said he could only be friends with you over the telephone if you ate meat?

What he don't know can't hurt him. Meat eaters don't incessantly eat meat, they can do without for a meal. Plus I'm generally good at appearing cuter than I am...irresistable

Lawlz. I kid. About the last bit, at least

[Puppet on a string]

Isn't Boz a meat eater?

I could be wrong so please correct me if I am!

[Girl-with-the-Thorn]

Would Morrissey restrict himself to only a phone friendship with Oscar Wilde given the opportunity?

I try not to make blanket generalisations on people based on their diet. I know some vegetarians who are wonderful, some who are twats; some meat-eaters are brilliant, some the scum of the earth. It must be appreciated that for most people the consumption of meat is entirely disconnected from the act of slaughter and loss of animal life. Eating a ham sandwich is not necessarily a reflection of a cruel and callous nature and vegetarianism is no guarantee someone is compassionate and considerate in other aspects of their life. So if Morrissey really believes what he said I think it's very stupid. I don't think he does though, it's just another example of his gross exaggeration to convey his strength of feeling on the matter.



Vegetarianism will not bring you happiness. Happiness and moral satisfaction are not the same thing. I have never eaten meat and honestly do not believe my life up to this point would have been a less happy one had I eaten meat. Vegetarianism may make you feel like you're being a better person, that you're doing all you can to minimise suffering on this hellish earth, but vegetarianism won't keep you warm at night or give you that warm feeling inside when you feel that your existence is right. I don't understand how you can believe what you've said and ever be truly happy. Sorry if that seems harsh, but you said the same thing to someone else based merely on the fact they eat meat so....

Christ, what am I doing on here at this time ranting about this?

I mostly agree with this comment as well ko- good point, well made.

[marred]

I would do the same.

It's a bit easier for me, since nobody wants to friends with me anyway.

lol I'll be your friend Flax... but only over the phone

[marred]

The meat industry is cruel, inhumane and unnecessary. Unfortunately, people will never stop eating meat until it ceases to exist on the planet. I would not go out and shoot a deer but I have more tolerance for people who do and eat that meat than those who go to the supermarket and buy it. The injustices and cruelty that exist in the meat industry are intolerable for me as an animal lover. I do not eat meat because I love animals and think that we as humans should be smarter about our choices for dinner. I respect Morrissey for (as always) staying true to himself and not "dining" with carnivores. I would rather pet a cow than eat it.

Do you wear animals?

[Lonsdale71]

Everyone can make simple choices. Just don't put a piece of meat in your mouth. Regards to wearing leather, you can simply limit it but you don't have to die of guilt if you do wear leather shoes, belt, etc.

We don't live in a ideal world. If you start stressing about leather in shoes, belts, etc, life can get quite difficult.

I wear leather shoes to work most of the time but I don't eat meat. it's quite simple. But I would not wear a leather jacket because it is so easy to pick up an alternative.

But a non-meat diet can also be very unhealthy: crisps, biscuits, ice-cream, chocolate are all "vegetarian" but not necessarily healthy. But I am sure most vegetarians know this of course. Most meat eaters eat all of this stuff as well as meat.

It just boils down to not eating meat which is very easy.

If you want to start a discussion about a healthy diet.....then that's altogether a different issue.

I think the biggest misconception about vegetarians is that they only eat "rabbit food", ie. carrots & salads. You could live on crisps, mayonnaise & chocolate - and still be a vegetarian!