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Is the Swords tour set list an improvement on the Years of Refusal Tour? (suggested by Jonnie)

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Yes - it's much better
  5% 99 votes
Yes - it's been improved a fair bit
  10% 211 votes
It's OK, but still not as good as it could be
  29% 583 votes
No, it's dreary and he needs to drop lots of songs
  25% 497 votes
Who cares - it's Morrissey and we'd go and see him if he was singing Nolan Sisters songs
  28% 563 votes
1953 total votes.
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  • There are so many excellent songs to choose from. Given that this is part of a tour where he visits places that were in the tour schedule earlier this year, I had hoped for a more significant change in the setlist.
    Anonymous -- Friday October 30 2009, @08:14AM (#341799)
  • I personally think playing b sides with all his new stuff don't really work, the simths songs are about right but you need some early and mid moz in there, i no you will never please everyone and moz don't really care what songs people want but there should be a bit more variation.But having said that il still watch him whatever he sings!
    bigdeal111111 -- Friday October 30 2009, @08:19AM (#341800)
    (User #17130 Info)
  • I'm so bored with First of the Gang. He must play Friday Mourning, which is one of my favorite Moz songs period! How about some old b-sides like Yes I am Blind or Nobody Loves Us?
    Anonymous -- Friday October 30 2009, @09:52AM (#341811)
    • Re:Bsides by Anonymous (Score:0) Friday October 30 2009, @10:02AM
      • Re:Bsides by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday November 04 2009, @01:51PM
  • where are the changes there are six new songs tops - that is a joke he should have chanegd every song or at least a majority of the songs can someone explain the changes in detial - what has he switched out, what is new that he is put in

    give me the info and i'll make a more informed decision

    moho -- Friday October 30 2009, @10:44AM (#341818)
    (User #10663 Info)
  • Is it me of the Warsaw cd is just appalling? The sound, the band, the singing, it all sounds dull to me. I have the impression that most of his last releases are a mistake (Southpaw Grammar, Maladjusted, Greatest Hits... someone may add YOR and ROTT...)
    Anonymous -- Friday October 30 2009, @11:07AM (#341820)
    • Warsaw..... by Anonymous (Score:0) Saturday October 31 2009, @10:51AM
    • Re:Awful recording by Anonymous (Score:0) Sunday November 01 2009, @08:29AM
      • Re:Awful recording by Anonymous (Score:0) Sunday November 01 2009, @09:26AM
        • i think by Anonymous (Score:0) Monday November 02 2009, @08:34AM
  • Crashing Bores
    Ganglord
    Death Elbow
    The Loop

    add these songs:
    some girls
    mama riverbed
    hated for loving
    jack the ripper
    Anonymous -- Friday October 30 2009, @01:08PM (#341827)
  • He's playing EIGHT SMITHS SONGS. That's as close as you'll ever get to a real Smiths reunion. You people would still bitch if he played his entire discography.
    Anonymous -- Friday October 30 2009, @07:12PM (#341869)
  • Recently I thought the setlist towards the end of 2006 and at the beginning of 2008 were very good... when there were more songs I think. And he played some solo gems.

    This one is still ok (it is Moz after all) but I'm sure Johan can reveal the full figures. The setlist has remained pretty solid with little fluctuation? Apart from the choice of Smiths songs and Teenage Dad and Ganglord added(great songs btw but Teenage Dad doesn't work as a live tune.)

    I just don't think he enjoys playing live that much anymore what with his voice/maladies the way it is/are, and this also limits the setlist choices. MAybe though due to the nature of the tour he feels like he should play the set as in May as so many gigs were cancelled?

    Although Leeds and Sheffield may have reaffirmed his faith a bit... why he continues to tour like a recently retired couple on their final salary pension is beyond me but he must have his reasons?

    The way the current setlist meanders to the encore (I was at the RAH) and the gig lost any energy (that was not there with the crowd in the first place mind)
    Watching the bassist do his best Level 42 Stars In Your Eyes impression was for some the highlight. Even Spinal Tap would cringe at that.

    It would be a shame to see him end his live performances on full blown tours but the event that a Moz tour (wow its Moz) used to be has for me dissipated with the amount of gigs he has played since 2004. And possibly my age too.
    With little or no improvisation within the set. Even the stage banter seems a little contrived now and repetitive (Celebrity chefs? yawn.... )

    Should take a couple of years off and come and sing at the opening of 2012 Olympics!

    BB
    Anonymous -- Saturday October 31 2009, @01:04AM (#341883)
  • and what is wrong with the Nolans?
    Stanley Ogden -- Saturday October 31 2009, @02:25AM (#341886)
    (User #21027 Info)
  • How soon is now?
    First of the gang to die
    irish blood, english heart

    add solo classic songs:

    interesting drug
    sunny
    piccadilly palare
    sing your life
    will never marry
    Anonymous -- Saturday October 31 2009, @10:05AM (#341910)
    • Re:Drop... by Anonymous (Score:0) Saturday October 31 2009, @04:11PM
      • Re:Drop... by Anonymous (Score:0) Sunday November 01 2009, @01:57AM
  • from Swords, he should be doing Good Looking Man About Town, My Dearest Love, I Knew I Was Next, Shame is the Name.

    HSIN has GOT to go.

    Crashing Bores has GOT to go.

    and should be replaced by 5 or so rotating songs from '88 - '97 I hate how he is ignoring this period (mostly) on this tour. For me, I would rather hear songs from these years than the Smiths any day (any day.)

    Though I am looking forward to hearing Cemetery Gates, I must say.
    Davinder -- Saturday October 31 2009, @10:48AM (#341914)
    (User #355 Info)
  • ... Moz played this pretty perfect set at the Hollywood Bowl. You can't say that the Swords Tour set is anywhere close.

    The Queen Is Dead
    The Last Of The Famous International Playboys
    Ganglord
    The National Front Disco
    Let Me Kiss You
    All You Need Is Me
    The Boy With The Thorn In His Side
    Irish Blood, English Heart
    Disappointed
    I've Changed My Plea To Guilty
    Everyday Is Like Sunday
    In The Future When All's Well
    I Will See You In Far Off Places
    Girlfriend In A Coma
    First Of The Gang To Die
    I Just Want To See The Boy Happy
    You Have Killed Me
    That's How People Grow Up
    Life Is A Pigsty
    How Soon Is Now?
    ________ encores_________
    Please, Please, Please Let Me Get What I Want
    You're Gonna Need Someone On Your Side
    There Is A Light That Never Goes Out

    So, there's a gig. And why is First Of The Gang (mid-set in 2007) now the encore? You know what would BRING THE HOUSE DOWN as an encore now? 'Speedway'.
    Stan <[email protected]> -- Saturday October 31 2009, @05:40PM (#341935)
    (User #9752 Info | http://www.stanleymchale.merseyblogs.co.uk/)
    • Re:Only two years ago.... by Anonymous (Score:0) Saturday October 31 2009, @10:13PM
    • pull out;

      how soon is now
      you have killed me
      that's how people throw up
      dissapointed
      boy happy
      this charming man[current setlist]

      in
      Alma Matters orAlasataion Cousin
      Hand in Glove
      last time I spoke to Carol
      black cloud
      speedwayor spring-heeled Jim

      well can there be a pefect setlist if you know he'll play 20 songs

      tough one, forumfood
      Celibate Cry <[email protected]> -- Sunday November 01 2009, @08:24AM (#341956)
      (User #220 Info)
      and the hills are alive with celibate cries
    • Re:Only two years ago.... by Anonymous (Score:0) Monday November 02 2009, @10:28AM
  • It would be nice to see a mix of songs - different ones here and there - but all in all, I really don't care. I just want to see him live and he can play whatever he wants. I'm happy with that. I mean, if I want to hear certain songs, all I've got to do is play the albums. It would be great to hear him sing those songs in person, but who am I to complain when he's only inches in front of me?!
    hand in glove -- Sunday November 01 2009, @06:28PM (#341999)
    (User #827 Info)
    "Sometimes things fall apart so that better things can fall together" - Marilyn Monroe
  • so lets say 19-21 song setlist
    Heaven knows i'm miserable for how soon is now
    first of the gang be replaced by picadilly palare, move that toward to top of the set
    my encore would be
    last of the famous
    there is a light

    that would be perfect
    Anonymous -- Monday November 02 2009, @01:30PM (#342069)
  • ...completely unexpected to start with...Maladjusted.
    skulll -- Monday November 02 2009, @03:55PM (#342078)
    (User #22049 Info)
  • Moz singin "how soon is now?" is like elvis bore of sing "are you lonesome tonight?"

     
    Daniel Mozzer -- Wednesday November 04 2009, @10:31AM (#342238)
    (User #22916 Info)
    • Re:Moz Is Elvis by Daniel Mozzer (Score:1) Wednesday November 04 2009, @10:34AM
  • 1.Now My Heart Is Full
    2.Hairdresser on Fire
    3.Trouble Loves Me
    4.The Never-Played Symphonies
    5.The National Front Disco
    6.You Should Have Been Nice to Me
    7.Suedehead
    8.Sweet And Tender Hooligan
    9.I'd Love to
    10.Seasick, Yet Still Docked
    11.Half A Person
    12.The Teachers Are Afraid of the Pupils
    13.Alma Matters
    14.Life Is a Pigsty
    15.It's Not Your Birthday Anymore
    16.Lost
    17.Back to the Old House
    18.Jack The Ripper
    19.November Spawned a Monster
    20.Please, Please, Please Let Me Get What I Want
    Encore
    21.Speedway
    Rich Hill1978 -- Thursday November 05 2009, @05:10AM (#342372)
    (User #19284 Info | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mystvD33Ac&feature=channel_page)
  • Like National Front disco or maybe We'll let you know.
    Lonelyplanetboy -- Saturday November 07 2009, @06:21AM (#342635)
    (User #23105 Info)
  • but a couple of the shows have been on the short side.
    Davinder -- Monday November 09 2009, @05:27PM (#343444)
    (User #355 Info)
  • I don't know if these songs have been on the setlists or not but I hope they have. I just bought "Swords" last week and heard these songs for the first time. Wow,I love them both! They are both such powerful songs in completely different ways. "My Dearest Love" is rather minimalistic but I love its slow burn. I love the way Morrissey sings this song and his lyrics are sincerity at its very best! And "Shame is the Name" is an Alain Whyte classic. The music is tremendous! I don't think the lyrics of this song are all that great to be honest but the way Morrissey sings the words is terriffic. I hope Moz and Alain can still collaborate in the future because they are one of the greatest songwriting tandems of all-time. Just like Moz and Johnny Marr are as well.
    Leopold Dilg -- Tuesday November 10 2009, @12:28PM (#343565)
    (User #21023 Info)

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