This song is kid of drag musically but I admit, he's taking punishment here for Mozzer putting down a terrible lyric on top if it.

are just Jamie repeat-voting!

are really his best stuff - but none of it is great and it all sounds remarkably similar - not in a good way

Jessie rocks, man! Just lay off the dude, OK? His stuff is so much better than all that "America is not the world" shit. That song sucked. It's, like, the worst Morrissey song ever.

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Clearly not a poll done by a completist. Jesse's best effort is "If You Don't Like Me, Don't Look At Me".

I've never even heard of On the Streets I Ran. Should I be an embarrassed fan to admit this? Where is it from?

I'm feeling a little drunk, so let me say something nice about Our Jesse.

When I first heard he was from Texas and has a Mexican heritage, I had visions of the Bobby Fuller Four dancing in my head. The first attempts at songwriting didn't really show that kind of promise, that is until I heard "If You Don't Like Me, Then Don't Look at Me." Then, like fat Oprah, I had an "Ah, Ha" moment.

The Jesse Hate is really not warranted here. I know he is not Alain, and the fact that he is not Alain is not enough reason to dislike him. Just like Morrissey's band (who he loves) doesn't not warrant the usual abuse because they are not the Smiths. Sorry, not a good enough reason, and those rock critics and fans need to come to terms with that.

Going Home mentioned in a post how "Sorry Doesn't Help" is a song for our time. I like Rock and Roll guitar. I don't hear it anymore, and he also has some lovely Mexican guitar sounds going on throughout the entire new album. This is what he brings unique to the table. Morrissey truly does write for our time with this song. Sorry really doesn't help. Especially from these crooks who swindled their friends and clients our of millions. Where the fuck is MY bailout?

Jesse, show me some of that crazy guitar.

Posting drunk on the internet is awesome. I can't feel my fingers. I highly recommend it.

Except for
You have killed me and I'm OK By Myself
I Really Hate The Rest Of Those Songs

'In The Future When All Is Well' could be the most widely appealling song to those not familiar with Morrissey. It is fun, energetic, and a overall solid song. 'All you need is Me' is equally catchy. His days in the Chili Peppers and with Alanis have taught him to write for a wide audience.

Compare these to 'To Me You Are a Work of Art' and 'Mama Lay Softly on the Riverbed', which Alain wrote, and you have to give Jesse a break.

I think the more Jesse works with Moz, the more they bring out of one another. It gets better and better. I truly look forward to the sound, voice and meanings of future songs, musically and lyrically.

The true talent of Jesse can only be seen live (so go buy your ticket if you haven't yet and have an opportunity!).

Jesse has a live, raw energy on stage that howls "Rockstar." He manages to look tough and play very sensitively at the same time. And he's supporting so much of the sound, switching guitars after every song. He transitions and does all the technical stuff so quick we don't even notice (while Moz lays on the ground teasing us). He is definitely a key part of the synergy of the Moz team of today. He makes it look so slick and easy. We end up having a great time and surfing off his energy, fast and hard or quietly melodic. He really can do it all, with a sound that is his own.

I suggest everyone see it, feel it for themselves.

and he has the job simply because he has an uncut hanging mexicaan calabasa that moz fancies.
its obvious.

Jesse Tobias? His contract should be terminated.

Because there are more of them that I like than don`t. I`ve always had a soft spot for `You Have Killed Me` I think that the guitars sound quite Smithsish. Yamaha

of everybodys love of Alain. I think Jesse is terrific. I remember seeing him at the tower in Philadelphia and thinking he was a very good player.

The problem for him is that he's filling some really big shoes.

He should be strung up by his guitar strings in a remote location and left for snapping turtles to devour him.

Like our road construction workers, give him a break.

I don't necessarily think Jesse's "bashing" is unwarranted.

Jesse Tobias writes songs of average quality. There's nothing too interesting or unique about them. As a songwriter, he lacks the ability to experiment or to go in new directions.

Also, I don't see the big deal about his "technical" ability. Yeah, he can rock and imitate Marr. But his tone is really horrid. Just listen to the solo of "Reader Meet Author" from the recent tour. What the hell was he trying to play?

Expanding on what a poster above said, it's somewhat ironic that Alain wrote this fantastic blend of Morricone spaghetti western/Mexican/latin jazz (?) track that inspired a classic croon from Morrissey while multi-cultural Jesse could never manage such a feat.

Having said that, the last two tracks on YoR have grown on me in a major way, especially Sorry.

As I've said in the forums, there's a simple (simplistic?) physical drive to Jesse's songs that Morrissey really responds to, obviously. I'm sure he knows that Jesse could never write something as grandly artistic as Pigsty or Birthday (or as melodic as Let Me Kiss You etc.), but Jesse's rockers are his diesel fuel.

I'm laughing at how many of you are using Jesse as a scapegoat now that the old order has been replaced. It's a predictable human story.

Alain has been criticized ruthlessly since the release of "Southpaw Grammar," and up until his disappearance. Now he's a musical hero. Instead of placing the blame for the musical blandness on the boss, where it belongs, people simply pick on the new guy.

The reality is, they both have produced rather unremarkable material in the New Moz era, and that is likely due to Morrissey desiring less melodic templates to build his vocal melodies around.

He wants it simple, and predictable. It's easier to build songs that way, and he's now churning them out at a insect-like pace. Who knows what Jesse could come up with if he was given greater freedom.

Based on this list I would say that he is the most consistently great songwriter Moz has on his team at the moment.

I don't like "Sorry Doesn't Help" mainly becasue I just don't like the tune of it no matter how it's played. The rest of them I think are good but I will say that the way the songs sound on record makes them too loud and just too much for the ears. The tunes themselves are fine and had they been musically played/produced a bit softer, less noise and hype, they would have been much better. Good tunes but bad execution.

by Myself is a terrific song! I can't wait to see it live. The versions that people have put on Youtube look terrific, it's going to be a great summer.

As far as Jesse goes, I think he is a very talented musician and deserves a lot of credit. Perhaps the circumstances have been against him; he was fine as an initial stand in for Alain but for many of us Alain lovers, we miss our man!!! Alain had a terrific sense of fun on stage. Jesse does not connect with the audience in the same way. That said he is an excellent guitarist and I haven't seen him put a foot wrong, in fact he has really brought something to the power and the proficiency of the live Moz sound (please compare with the '91 and '92 shows - great fun and spirit yes, but the sound is far better now.)

As a songwriter Jesse isn't bad and is improving from Ringleader to Refusal. Moz himself is clearly enamoured with him, to the extent that he was being paraded as some sort of muse around the time of Ringleader, if memory serves.

  Overall, I think he deserves the fans' praise.

... I don't HATE them all, but... as a body of work... Most of them I do hate, and the line of work I just don't like.

i don't adore every song on the list below, but not a one of them is bad. several are incredibly catchy and exciting, and could have been hits if morrissey had any judgment when it comes to his own work... alleged "fans" of morrissey are never happy unless they're complaining or being disagreeable.

the youngest was the most loved
you have killed me
in the future when all's well
on the streets i ran
i just want to see the boy happy
all you need is me
sorry doesn't help
i'm ok by myself
children in pieces
i knew i was next
if you don't like me, don't look at me

Jesse appears to fit in with the band, plays well live and Morrissey likes him and his work. These are the important things for those who get to decide.

He writes average formula songs in my opinion, and though I don't hate them, I don't gasp with delight either. I hope he gains confidence and tries to expand his range, but I won't hold my breath.

I think it's good that Morrissey takes songs from a variety of musicians for the albums, providing a range of tastes and styles, to inspire him and us.

cuz honestly they are probably the "worst" although i like them both. The youngest was the most loved is much better musically and produced well also, especially compared to the rest of the singles. Although i still think that I just want to see the boy happy is possibly the best. I mean seriously, All You Need Is Me is his best???? are you kidding? talk about some fair weather Moz fans, that song is possibly one of the worst album songs, not that i don't like it but.... yea i think they could have done better.

possibly his only good song.

all you need is me IS catchy - but cliched.

Woah! I remember when the demo for Children In Pieces came out, it was hailed as the best thing Moz has done in the past ten years.

Boy, have things changed quickly!

You Have Killed Me is my favorite Morrissey/Smiths of all time. Fan since 1986. Check out YouTube: Morrissey - You Have Killed Me (Live in Istanbul). Say what you may, think what you will but this is it. Signing out from Los Angeles, Kenneth Martinez.

Can people really tell the difference between their songs? Jesse's songs seem to be a little more repetitive, but I find it Alain and Boz's works to be indistinguishable. Can someone enlighten me to their differences?

Uh oh, one of our younger members forgot to take his Tourette's medication. Turn off the cartoon channel and take your pill, sonny.