Should anonymous posters be barred from this site? (suggested by dbowie)
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Yes   44% 896 / 44%
No   44% 894 / 44%
Don't know / not sure   8% 171 / 8%
I never read anonymous posts   2% 43 / 2%
2004 total votes.

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Yes (Score:0)
I must be stopped!
Anonymous -- Monday February 25 2008, @12:47PM (#297160)
  • Re: haha! by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday February 26 2008, @05:25AM
    • Re:Yes by Anonymous (Score:0) Monday March 03 2008, @06:35AM
      We are Anonymous. (Score:0)
      We are legion.

      Expect us.
      Anonymous -- Monday February 25 2008, @01:12PM (#297165)
      No (Score:1)
      There's been some absolute gems posted anonymously - demoes, unreleased stuff, and the infamous 'Moz is not happy' communication, after the release of "The Youngest...". Yes, we have had our fair share of loonies, but on the whole, I prefer it this way.

      Peter
      uncleskinny * -- Monday February 25 2008, @01:25PM (#297167)
      (User #7815 Info)
      And so I drank one, it became four, and when I fell on the floor, I drank more
      • Yes by Mel Torment (Score:1) Monday February 25 2008, @02:42PM
        • Re:Yes by Corrissey (Score:1) Monday February 25 2008, @05:47PM
          • Re:Yes by wemissumoz (Score:1) Tuesday February 26 2008, @10:37AM
        • no by not sorry (Score:1) Thursday February 28 2008, @05:25PM
          many are ass pains and snarky twats (Score:1)
          but still should have a say
          thirsty fists <thirsty_fists@yahoo.com> -- Monday February 25 2008, @01:55PM (#297170)
          (User #149 Info)
          "world's ugliest boy"
          Anonymousness Is Nice (Score:0)
          and we must unite and take over!
          Anonymous -- Monday February 25 2008, @04:21PM (#297182)
          I'm mean, really... (Score:0)
          Who gives a shit if you post anonymously or not? I never pay attention to the names posted on here!
          Anonymous -- Monday February 25 2008, @04:29PM (#297185)
          We are here to stay..... (Score:0)
          You can't stop us!!!!!!!! We will not stop till we take over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
          Anonymous -- Monday February 25 2008, @05:30PM (#297190)
            Keep Anonymous Strong! (Score:0)
            I think the Anonymous posts are awesome.
            Anonymous -- Monday February 25 2008, @07:52PM (#297195)
            It takes strength to be gentle and kind... (Score:1)
            Hey friends,

            I think Morrissey said it best when he sang: "It takes strength to be gentle and kind."

            I am NO angel, but I think that anonymous posts are at least 1/2 ugly and mean-spirited. If something is salient, then you should have your name signed to it. The anonymous comments seem to be 1/2 abusive. I think that a user name should be attached to all comments-- or make a separate forum just for those who wish to be anonymous. Peace.

            Your favourite nerd,
            Ken
            sycophantic_slag -- Monday February 25 2008, @08:13PM (#297196)
            (User #3940 Info)
            "And I just can't explain/ So I won't even try to."
            I need anonymous (Score:0)
            Don't take away anonymous. I frequently need it to post as I frequently forget my password!

            -Lucas
            Anonymous -- Monday February 25 2008, @10:58PM (#297202)
              i don't care (Score:1)
              maybe this poll is in response to whoever this person is recently who seems to have eternal PMS and tourette's when it comes to Morrissey's career.

              It's sad seeing that the same person has posted about 20 messages in the same news story about how Moz should hang it up. They may post under the moniker "anonymous" but it's easy to tell its the same person. I scan it and have 5 seconds of my life taken away (although I had nowhere else to give my 5 seconds). i think i'd rather put up with THAT rather than miss the odd tidbits like Moz's crabby letter towards Sanctuary, or some of the polls and news stories that are simply submitted by "anonymous."
              suzanne -- Monday February 25 2008, @11:13PM (#297203)
              (User #36 Info | http://www.myspace.com/snootywriter )
              I scare dead people.
              yes, sorta (Score:1)
              if not registrate, read only

              simple

              as for the forums, stay as it is, with the mods
              and several forums, and registration
              Celibate Cry <vauxhall@mail2uk.com> -- Monday February 25 2008, @11:51PM (#297204)
              (User #220 Info)
              and the hills are alive with celibate cries
                Dazzle me with your intelligence (Score:0)
                The people who should really be barred are the 10% of people who actually voted that they "don't know" because this is really just such a highly complicated question.
                Kate2828 -- Tuesday February 26 2008, @08:10AM (#297216)
                (User #12664 Info)
                No (Score:0)
                This topic rears its head time and time again, and I've always found it hilarious that people who post under names like "uncleskinny" or "goinghome" somehow view themselves as less anonymous than the rest of us. And as for the claim that removing all anonymous posters would weed out the trolls and cranks, you needn't look any further than that sad, sad Scatter bloke to find proof to the contrary.
                Anonymous -- Tuesday February 26 2008, @10:42AM (#297232)
                No (Score:0)
                I have an account but for some reason Morrissey-Solo never allows me to log in.

                -DavidismyHero!
                Anonymous -- Tuesday February 26 2008, @10:55AM (#297236)
                • Re:No by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday February 26 2008, @08:30PM
                  • Re:No by wemissumoz (Score:1) Wednesday February 27 2008, @05:11AM
                    • Re:No by Anonymous (Score:0) Thursday February 28 2008, @09:33AM
                  it depends (Score:0)
                  I for whatever reason can not log on to the main page but have no problem logging into the forums. So it depends on where you are refering to when you post anonymously.

                  sdsuedehead
                  Anonymous -- Tuesday February 26 2008, @11:04AM (#297237)
                    Is there any point? (Score:1)
                    I've seen some really nasty posts coming from posters who unbashfully use a long and stylish name...
                    Mrs. Woolf -- Tuesday February 26 2008, @11:45AM (#297241)
                    (User #14157 Info)
                    naw (Score:0)
                    If you bar anonymous posters from the site, then I'll have to actually check my email and get the activation code and remember a password and all of this...

                    ...can't I just have my say when I want without bothering so much with it? track my IP if you want, but leave me alone.

                    Anonymous -- Tuesday February 26 2008, @07:30PM (#297263)
                    • Re:naw by wemissumoz (Score:1) Wednesday February 27 2008, @05:16AM
                      • Re:naw by Anonymous (Score:0) Saturday March 01 2008, @12:08AM
                        • Re:naw by Corrissey (Score:1) Saturday March 01 2008, @08:18AM
                      Whats the point? (Score:0)
                      Why does registering a username make someone's post more valid. I could register a username, but whats the point honestly?
                      Anonymous -- Wednesday February 27 2008, @12:35AM (#297270)
                      it takes strength (Score:1)
                      tolerence of others makes us better
                      and if Anonymous has not the conviction to put a name to what they say then "Enough said!"leave them alone and focus on your own behavior
                      COLLNUIN -- Wednesday February 27 2008, @04:57AM (#297284)
                      (User #18040 Info)
                      if you can not help dont hinder !
                        I say yes (Score:1)
                        A lot less stuff to wade through. Then again it sounds like a lot of people can't remember their account ID/password or are having trouble logging in. I was one of those people so I asked for help. :P

                        Fran

                        "Don't hate me because I logged in" :P
                        Panda -- Wednesday February 27 2008, @05:48AM (#297288)
                        (User #12557 Info | http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=403408908 )
                        Franissey (Fran)
                          careful what you wish for... (Score:0)
                          If anonymous posting is banned from this site, then it will come to a screaching halt... no activity at all, no doubt about it... Then where will you all have to go to continue on with your constant bitching and moaning, bickering and fighting? It would be terrible, because honestly its better than watching the special olympics.
                          Anonymous -- Wednesday February 27 2008, @06:49AM (#297291)
                          both ways (Score:1)
                          I think some of the anonymous posts have provided invaluable and insightful info, so there shouldn't be a blanket ban imho.

                          But for the negative anonymous posts that go on and on (and way off tangent), I think we should just handle it like a tempermental child trying to get attention (which is what they are...Joyce?) just ignore, because the opposite of love is not hate. It's apathy. If someone is not paid attention to, they'll get the message and leave. Don't waste any energy on them.
                          romeogirl -- Wednesday February 27 2008, @11:10AM (#297308)
                          (User #2891 Info)
                            No (Score:0)
                            No. No. No. Some of the bestus/wierdest stuff comes from anons. People need to get a grip.

                            PS: BRING BACK THE GUESTBOOK

                            Stephen the freak from SW PA was a riot.

                            lonedom -- Wednesday February 27 2008, @12:37PM (#297314)
                            (User #7846 Info)
                            Veteran of both World Wars on Job Seekers Allowance
                              excuse me for anonymously speaking.... (Score:0)
                              It is easy and convenient to post an anonymous comment, especially if you are someone who doesn't post frequently... but as we have seen, this site is constantly littered with rude responses to peoples comments by anonymous posters. You can choose to not read the anonymous post, but it does not solve the problem. Having a log-in would help eleviate the bad posts. This is what is keeping me from using a log-in. I have no problem doing so if it changes to that. One other suggestion could be to do "report as bad post" to moz-solo administrator button like how U-Tube has.. so David can remove the post.
                              Anonymous -- Wednesday February 27 2008, @07:47PM (#297344)
                              I miss "Morrissey Sucks" (Score:1)
                              Whoever that was, he gave me many moments of hilarity. Anyone else remember him? So, after this poll is through, will something actually be done? How about instead of "Anyonymous" an ip address shows up.
                              mattorefice <oreficematt@hotmail.com> -- Wednesday February 27 2008, @08:55PM (#297347)
                              (User #2318 Info | http://pechogrande.com/ )
                              Leslie Towne Hope = Packy West
                                I say FUCK 'em! (Score:1)
                                C'mon man, you go to many "reputable" band/artist site and you can only post if youre a memeber. By having to register/log-in their plans of hell raising in the forums might be thwarted.
                                Gin N Tonic Jil -- Wednesday February 27 2008, @09:48PM (#297350)
                                (User #7276 Info)
                                You're not down with who I am but, look at you now you're all in my hands...tonight I'm a Rock N' Roll Star!!
                                  Love everyone (Score:0)
                                  even the anonymous have rights ...
                                  Anonymous -- Thursday February 28 2008, @09:52AM (#297392)
                                    Anon or not anon? That is not the question (Score:0)
                                    If this site has become rather nasty in recent years, that is only because Morrissey has enticed a lot of unpleasant and venomous people with the awful records he has made over the last 14 years. Anyone who enjoy "Noise is the best revenge" must have a very black heart indeed.
                                    Anonymous -- Thursday February 28 2008, @12:37PM (#297424)
                                      No, only if (Score:0)
                                      they tell us who they are...
                                      Anonymous -- Thursday February 28 2008, @06:54PM (#297456)
                                        Unknown Anonymous messenger (Score:0)
                                        Shoot the messenger...Does it matter who said what..Its whats bieng said,that matters..Besides passwords keep forgetting...What about that unkown threader?What if they are the least famous person in the world?..Your Anonymous then..You can check on World league table,where you stand in order of anonminity,
                                        Anonymous -- Thursday February 28 2008, @09:08PM (#297459)
                                          I think (Score:1)
                                          a better question would be to ask if you prefer to read posts from a named source rather than from an anonymous one. I much prefer reading the posts of dbowie, corrissey, miss liverpool, goinghome, and the other regular posters because I get a sense of who they are as people. Some people may prefer to remain anonymous, or don't think it matters one way or the other, but I enjoy putting together an idea of a person based on their posts. To me it is an added bonus to the conversation. Inevitably though...to each his own.
                                          evennow -- Friday February 29 2008, @06:30AM (#297477)
                                          (User #17371 Info)
                                          an empty heart...it sets me free
                                          How would Morrissey post without being "anonymous" (Score:0)
                                          Maybe Morrissey posts as an anonymous. Let the "anonymous" feel free to post!
                                          Anonymous -- Friday February 29 2008, @10:57AM (#297498)
                                          Banning them is not enough! (Score:0)
                                          They should be whipped and flogged in their local town square. Shooting is an option that should be discussed and voted upon....After all it is 2008.

                                          Sometimes you have to be accountable for your words as well as your actions. Being a scaredy cat anonymous is so 2007...that's right you heard me SCAREDY CAT.

                                          As a compromise anonymous posters should be allowed on the 29th of February every leap year. MarkfromScatter should be allowed on every full moon and those in the witness protection program can be given an exemption as long as they include their full address and phone number at the end of their posts.

                                          Those sporting a moustache are barred with the exception of halloween and those who cant remember their names are excused on compassionate grounds. Other than these reasons there is no reason to not have a handle.

                                          Waving back to Corrissey! Saying hi to MissLiverpool and dbowie....thats me....Mr Sunshine!
                                          Foster88 -- Friday February 29 2008, @06:37PM (#297538)
                                          (User #17605 Info)
                                          I have spent my whole life in ruin's, because of people who are nice.
                                          Is not that I want to be anonymous!!! (Score:0)
                                          I'm just too lazy to recover my password...I have to many passwords in my head. Anyway I really dont care what happens with the anonymous.
                                          Anonymous -- Friday February 29 2008, @11:12PM (#297541)
                                          User names can be banned, anons can not (Score:0)
                                          Everyone seems to have missed the glaringly obvious point, that a registered username can be banned for breaches of the site's Terms Of Service.
                                          Yes, the person can just create another screen name, and another, but each time he/she has to create a new email account, which would probably deter all but the most deranged.
                                          And besides, the moderators can recognise IP addresses of repeat offenders and just ban them before they even start posting.
                                          It worked on the forums, why not here?
                                          Why there's even a debate about it, given what has been posted here, and continues to be posted by anonymous trolls, is absurd.
                                          This site could once again be the "great site" that Morrissey spoke of in the past, but the only way for that to happen is to ban anonymous posts.
                                          Anonymous -- Saturday March 01 2008, @04:25AM (#297548)
                                            Anonymosity and this site (Score:1)
                                            The preferences are running head to head now.

                                            Although I haven’t established via a direct statement that this site is a Morrissey fan site, I think it safe to assume that such is the intention from our own understanding, and by implication from the following extract from the ‘About’ section:

                                            - A brief history:
                                            *Oct. 1991 - Jan. 1995 -- Sing Your Life - A Morrissey Fanzine . Started with Russ Seekatz, the fanzine included many stories and photos from many contributors, covering tours in 1991 (Kill Uncle) and 1992 (Your Arsenal). We completed 3 editions in all and I think we were one of the first to use computers (in the form of word processor printouts) in producing a fanzine.
                                            *July 1995 - Feb. 1997 -- SYL website. Not an extensive site, it had info on the fanzine and some news updates but was mostly a means for me to learn HTML
                                            *Feb. 1997 - present -- Morrissey-solo. –

                                            A number of anonymous commentators on the poll admit to nothing more calculated than simple laziness at the prospect of spending a couple of minutes registering on the site. Many members predict that requiring log-in which is in effect still anonymous but bestowing a continuing online identity conveying character, would prune out those posters who take advantage of the ease of access to litter the pages with streams of drivel and to destroy the experience of a discussion with other particular individuals. The volume of this negative noise can drive away sincere users to the detriment of good communal standards.

                                            A related suggestion was to change the default view to posters with usernames to bolster a public impression that MorrisseySolo is an acceptable fan site. While some are wary of the restrictions this might cause, which for others would be welcome in only securing contributions from those who are genuinely interested, the true identity of each user for any practical purposes is the same for registered and anonymous users i.e. the IP address. There appears to be agreement that most but not all of the trolling is done by anonymous users and that correlation in itself is persuasive enough in some cases to justify disallowing them in order to encourage accountability and build quality. It is not clear to me that the site owner can diverge this far from the generic Slashdot format.

                                            The Slashdot designer, under ‘Ideas for the Future’, has considered the option to -:
                                            “Only allow "Logged-In Anonymous Posting". It would be a simple extra hurdle that people would be required to jump over. It might help to eliminate some knee jerk reaction posts, but the naysayers will argue that this prevents them from being anonymous (please note that the logged in AC is every bit as Anonymous as the logged out AC as far as the system is concerned, so the only real difference is that you would have had to at some point create an account). This has up sides and downsides so I have no real opinion on this at all.”

                                            The alternatives then are to adjust the setting and to step up the moderator activity.
                                            The big issue by and large is not the anonymity of users per se, but the appearance that through posts mainly associated with this faction, member conduct under the terms of service is repeatedly breached without penalty which is at minimum of nuisance value to those willing to interact in a reasonable manner.

                                            For information (from the Terms of Service section):

                                              - 6. MEMBER CONDUCT
                                            You understand that all Content, whether publicly posted or privately transmitted, is the sole responsibility of the person from which such Content originated. This means that you, not we, are entirely responsible for all Content that you upload, post, email, transmit or otherwise make available via the Service. We do not control the Content posted via the Service and, as such, do not guarantee the accuracy, integrity or quality of such Content. You understand that by using the Service, you may be exposed to Content that is offensive, indecent or objectionable. Under no circumstances will we be liable in any way for any

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                                            goinghome -- Saturday March 01 2008, @05:13PM (#297596)
                                            (User #12673 Info)
                                            Another drab pole... (Score:1)
                                            Anonymous posts are probably the most insightful and postive posts on here, being as most of the M-solo members(including myself) are sick, twisted, and extremely partial when it comes to... well ANYTHING. However, if M-solo is going for that whole aggregation of serious and stoutly egos only, well then it would be a fine change- just count me out even more then I already am.

                                            ~Every second's like Sunday
                                            organicsamurai <spw321@yahoo.com> -- Monday March 03 2008, @01:05PM (#297690)
                                            (User #10089 Info)
                                            . . .and if I ever wanted to cry, then I will because I can.
                                            What then... (Score:0)
                                            if Anon posting were banned then there would have to be more time and effort spent on judging and "moderating" the main pages.
                                            Having stated that certain standards were to be maintained (whatever they may be) it could be assumed that what remained was endorsed by the site keepers and so the site keepers might be held responsible legally for what appears here, whereas that would be difficult to prove under the current free-for-all.

                                            While there is sometimes lively and interesting discussion here, the nastiness on the main pages gives a bad impression to casual visitors both of the artist and his audience.
                                            Is banning "Anon" the only way to reduce the problem? Could certain IP addresses be filtered?
                                            And how much is too much. Or too often. Where to draw the lines?
                                            Who to enforce the rules? Who writes the rules?

                                            I give only a quick look to the main page, usually. I prefer the community on the Forums. The system there is not perfect, but Trolls are normally dealt with swiftly while allowing greater freedom to comment than on other fan forums.

                                            In the wider world we all have to deal with the not-so-pleasant people along with those we do like, be it at work, on the journey to/from work, at the pub/stadium... but we choose for ourselves who we pay attention to or invite home. The main pages are a public space, not a private lounge or invitation only internet group.

                                            Sinistra
                                            Anonymous -- Wednesday March 05 2008, @06:24AM (#297752)
                                              ban (Score:0)
                                              I voted I don't know. You see I would ordinarily be against censorship however I think it was an anonymous that called me a hypocrite for not being a "pure" Vegan. Idiots like him or her should be banned!!! Have these people not ever heard the word PRACTICALITY or are they unable to understand the concept. I will get on a plane if I want to travel abroad, yes I do drive a car, yes I will use condoms rather than risk an STD and yes I will take medication so as to avoid misery and/or death. BUT YES I AM 100% VEGAN! if however you disagree and think that makes me a hypocrite then F*** OFF!
                                              Anonymous -- Wednesday March 05 2008, @08:44AM (#297754)
                                              • Re:ban by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday March 05 2008, @08:53AM
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