If Moz would simply play one song from the Viva/Bona (Stephen Street) era, one song from Your Arsenal, and one song from Vauxhall, by re-arranging the current setlist in reasonable fashion (such as taking out 2 ROTT tracks and the unreleased b-side or the Magazine cover) the vast majority of his fans would be happier.

Could be great though.

Get rid off:

Let Me Kiss You
Trouble Loves Me
My Life Is... (seems to have gone by now...Pfff)

Replace with:
Any 3 of the 1988-1995 singles

and you have a killer setlist!

Not that it's necessarily a bad thing, but this tour's setlist seems the most self-indulgent I've seen. What I mean is that it seems that Moz has chosen ones that presumably he likes rather than potential crowd-pleasers.

For example, 'Reader Meet Author' - not a bad song but it's lost on many of the fans. I personally like 'Trouble Loves Me' but again I'm guessing that Moz has chosen it for his own reasons rather than because he thinks we really want to hear it.

Truly Disappointed - The Sage, Gateshead.

£29.50 does not give anybody the right to make set list suggestions.
until the day he starts doing westlife covers the question should exist.
you buy a Morrissey ticket youget to see Morrissey singing a set of Morrissey songs, he throws enough crumbs to smiths-o-philes as it is.

I would like to see kill uncle on the set list. Such as sing your life, the harsh truth, mute witness, king leer, etc. I really don't mind that he's doing 75% of his new album because I really like it. In fact, when he finally decides to come to the states (west coast) I'll really be looking forward to "pigsty" and the rest of the new songs. I'll be saving my pennies for when he comes to the states, sells out in 10 seconds and I buy the tickets for 3x the price on EBAY. I guess it's better to be safe than sorry...

I think the order has a problem - playing two slow songs in a row is not a very good idea and he seemed to this a lot during this tour

For the first part of the tour, Moz played loads of YRTQ (maybe 8 or 9 songs).
Then towards the end of the year, he reduced this to 4 or 5 and added quite a few old ones (e.g. How Soon in Now).
Let's hope he does the same with the festivals in the summer or another tour later in the year...
The best Morrissey tours are usually when he doesn't have a new album to promote and he picks songs from the different eras (e.g. the 1999/2002 tours)
Maurice

Why complain? This is the ROTT promo tour, and the record has received good reviews. So you can not blame Morrissey for playing songs from that record. Any artist would do that. Morrissey does not aim to please and I love him for that. This being said, I obviously would welcome a change as I have seen him in Amsterdam and will see him shortly in the UK. But to say that I am dissapointed, or unhappy with the set list is rediculous. After all, if he plays stuff from Kill Uncle it could be dissapointing for many. And with November spawned a monster people will say that they are pleased, other will say they are tired of it. Just enjoy the gigs, as you know you are the lucky ones that got tickets anyway....

His refusal to play a single song of what is widely regarded as at least his second best solo album for the last four tours seems baffling to me.

Mind you, I was always was a thick bastard.

As for the new stuff, it's to be expected.

9 are from Ringleader
3 are from Quarry
3 are Smiths
1 is older solo
1 is unreleased

Ideally, if we have a 17 song maximum, I'd like to hear:
4 from Ringleader
2 from Quarry
2 Quarry b-sides (e.g. Walk Tall/Never Played symphony)
4 Smiths
4 pre Quarry solo
1 unreleased

How about the rest of you?
Maurice

...which means there'll always be someone complaining about the setlist anyway. I personally think the actual set of songs is great, and I like the fact, that he's not playing by the rules (read playing crowd pleasers only). There are great additions to the set, like e. g. "Trouble loves me" and "My life is a succession...". Thank Belial, he finally got rid of "November...". Eventually he's promoting his NEW album, right? The only thing in my book, that could be bettered, is to incorporate at least a few more different songs, as he's surely aware of the fact, that there's a lot of people following him around, not only Julia...

I don't get the complaints at all.
I don't even really see any logical need for this poll in the first place.
Does it really...REALLY...matter what songs are being played? Isn't the whole point of the live experience the sense of the coming together of like-minded souls? Of the communion? Isn't it all about the mesh of the faithful, the devout, giving praise at the altar?
If the set-list was printed in advance of the shows, would it have stopped you buying a ticket? If you answered in the affirmative to that question, then what on Earth are you doing on this site?
Most of the people that I know who are regulars here , from what I've read in their own missives on the live shows they have attended, seem to concur with this ideology. Some of the writing has been so joyous and at times hallucinatory, that you just know, to these people the set-list doesn't mean a damn. The thrill, the epiphany of being there is far greater than any argument about what songs should or should not have been played.

Morrissey is not a cabaret act, nor is he some confection of a 'pop-star'. He is an artist, and like all artists has a tendency to be stubborn, awkward, even contumelious at times, but so what? It wont stop me attending future shows...even if he annonced he was playing an entire set of Phil Collins and Chris De Burgh covers.

Nothing beats the live experince of seeing Him, of being in the same room as Him, as breathing the same air as HIM.
So any arguments about the set-list can go hang!

Morrissey has got to wise up and stop being so self-indulgent on this point. He has said in interviews that choosing the set list is a "selfish" process for him, but as the posting that broke down the set list shows (9 ROTT, 3 Quarry, etc...) he's gone off the deep end. What I loved about the tours between the Malajusted and YATQ was the awesome variety! "Break Up the Family", "Tomorrow", "You're Gonna Need Someone on Your Side", other Viva Hate and Smiths songs (my mind's drawing a blank at the moment). Of course, I understand he's rightfully promoting an album AND, yes, I do LOVE it. He plays a short set as it is (which I think we've all come to terms with), so why not...

5 or 6 off ROTT (and be sure to include "The Youngest..." and "In the Future..." both, always).

2 or 3 from Quarry (still recent and fresh in people's minds)

5 from the rest of his solo career (across the career, not just Mal. and Grammar)

3 Smiths songs.

1 B-side.

Think of the back catalogue he has...just from his SOLO work. I mean, come on. Slag off any other artist you want (Cure, Bowie, etc.) but, at least, they play long, varied set lists. O.K., O.K., fine. A little longer would be nice! :)

So much for the non-variety myth:

1) You Have Killed Me 25
2) Still Ill 25
3) The Youngest Was The Most Loved 25
4) I Will See You In Far-Off Places 25
5) First of the Gang To Die 25
6) How Soon Is Now? 25
7) Girlfriend In A Coma 25
8) At Last I Am Born 25
9) I Just Want To See The Boy Happy 25
10) Let Me Kiss You 25
11) Life Is A Pigsty 25
12) Irish Blood, English Heart 24
13) Trouble Loves Me 23
14) My Life Is A Succession Of People Saying Goodbye 21
15) Reader Meet Author 20
16) To Me You Are A Work Of Art 18
17) A Song From Under The Floorboards 12
18) Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me 10
19) In The Future When All’s Well 7
20) I Have Forgiven Jesus 6
21) On The Streets I Ran 6
22) Ganglord 6
23) Suedehead 2
24) The Father Who Must Be Killed 2
25) Human Being 2
26) Stop Me If You Think You’ve Heard This One Before 2
27) I Like You 1

if 17 songs are going to be played, I would like to see 8 or 9 ROTT songs on the list just to hear them live, just to get a better appreciation of the material. count me as one who can't stand kill uncle the album, but actually like a few of the songs live.

some of my favorite morrissey songs are those i really didn't appreciate until i heard them live (disappointed, national front disco, speedway, etc). i would imagine something off ROTT will fit into this category once i see Moz perform again.

if something needs to be dropped to make room for the new ones, drop the cover and/or smiths songs.

Alsatian Cousin
You Have Killed Me
Redondo Beach
Oh Well, I'll Never Learn
National Front Disco
At Amber
The Public Image
Michael's Bones
Spring-heeled Jim
Irish Blood, English Heart
I'm the End of the Family Line
Last of the Famous International Playboys (without shite backing vocals for chorus)
Boxers
Life is a Pigsty

Encore;
Journalists Who Lie
The Teachers Are Afraid of the Pupils

Q: How do you go about choosing songs for your forthcoming tour?
Simon, Durham.
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A: I usually pick the songs that I'm sure people would least like to hear. And I'm never wrong. If I don't give people something to complain about then I've failed.

February/2006.

As he said on channel 4's 4Music presents 'it really is just simply a question of what would I like like to sing, and nothing else comes into it'. He can do as he likes as far as I'm concerned, that's what makes him the man he is. I mean come on, he can't possibly please everybody. The gig would last for hours!

When will he play the interesting songs?

Any of you should know---Morrissey is very straight forward regarding his setlist. He has stated that the setlists are his personal choice and that he is singing what HE wants to sing, not what YOU want him to sing.

Ta-Taow!

I'd prefer if he took out songs he sang on his last tour, for example FOTGTD. We heard that one so much last tour. Replace it with something different from the past, even if its another one from Maladjusted!

I think the set list is great. I'm going to see him in Manchester on Saturday for the first time ever and I can't wait. Morrissey is roaming up hill and down dale to see us all, and kindly doing wonderfully intimate little venues for us, and all for the tiny sum of £29.50. I seriously don't know how anyone has the brass neck to moan about the set list. Everyone's got their favourates and as you can't possibly please everybody then Morrissey is quite right to please himself.

This "small venue" tour is about promoting ROTT.

I've been to 2 shows so far on this tour: Leeds town Hall and Sheffield City Hall both sets were almost the same... I'm off to Manchester Apollo on Saturday 6th too. I'm totally blown away by both performances I've seen so far on this tour. Morrissey(and band), in my opinion, never fail to deliver the goods. Every show is unique and beautiful in its own little way.

    I'm sure there will be set changes when he plays in front of bigger capacity crowds ie V festival. Its more likely to be a classic-filled set there or at any other large venue. Look at the MEN setlist it speaks for its self.

The thing is, you cant please everybody. Theres always going to be ATLEAST 1 moaning ol'bastard. Thats the beauty of it ;-)

If he sang this and I was there to see it...my life would be complete. In all my years seeing him, this is the one song he has not sung for me to witness.

spring heeled jim, and why dont you find out for yourself.

I Want The One I Can't Have / Suedehead / Little Man, What Now? / Hairdresser On Fire / Speedway / The World Is Full Of Crashing Bores / The First Of The Gang To Die / Jack The Ripper / Everyday Is Like Sunday / I Like You / Alsatian Cousin / Sister I'm A Poet / Meat Is Murder / November Spawned A Monster / Hand In Glove / Irish Blood, English Heart // There Is A Light That Never Goes Out

Cheers
Jocky

I don't really have any complaints about the setlist but I would prefer that Suedehead return, as well as Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before as the encore.

It would be also be nice to see earlier solo work such as Interesting Drug, Sunny, Glamorous Glue and The Edges Are No Longer Parallel included at somepoint during the tour.

from reading the comments on these page I have to say half the people on here are the most whiny spoilt people ever. If you want a greatest hits tour go see bob dylan. Obviously the people complaining have only seen Morrissey once or twice.

That'd be no. The problem is that he's not playing long enough shows. During the YATQ tour, he was playing up at around two hours. Now, it's 70-75 minutes. It's just not enough time to hit all the spots, especially when he wastes time playing "Trouble Loves Me" and other Southpaw/Maladjusted leftovers.

And why can't he mix up the set-list a bit? I'm not talking about switching a song here and there, but revamping for every show -- which would make every show unique, something you can't say right now. Of course he has to play a lot of Ringleader, but the rest of the list should be open. He only has 22 years worth of material to choose from.

...as I think Morrissey's music has much more merit, BUT here is a snippet from Radiohead's audio engineer today:

"Today we had an old songs day! The band have decided that everyday we will cover 10 old songs first, Ive been supplied with CDs with more than 40 songs they propose to perform on this tour and then with the remaining time do some work on their new material. "

Radiohead is rehearsing 40 old songs in addition to the new material they'll be showcasing on this tour.

It just seems like Morrissey is cutting-corners. Would it kill them to put a little more effort into the live shows? Everyone keeps saying "He's not a playing a greatest-hits show! He's not Barry Manilow!" and that's precisely the point.

If he's not either of those things then he should stop COASTING.

I know he has to perform the new material to promote the album but i would like to hear more of his earlier which really helped define his career. Moz needs to stay away from the b-sides also because they tend to bring the mood down during his shows.

I think Morrissey should just play songs off the 'Ringleader' sessions. Singing your old songs must be dead dull anyway. Failing that he could do what Elvis used to do - run through a medley of old hits to keep the grannies happy. How a bout a 'Miserable Medley'!

He's got to learn from the mistake he made at Glasto where he came onto a then unreleased B-side (Daddy Voice) and never recovered the atmospshere.
Reading was much better where he came on to How Now Brown Cow. He played less of Quarry and more well-known songs. He could go down brilliantly at V as long as he doesn't play more than 5 Ringleader songs. Although the album went to number 1 it's sold a lot less than Quarry. He's got to include stuff like Suedehead or Everyday or The More You Ignore. Hopefully, he'll introduce a brilliant Smiths song for the first time on this tour like This Charming Man.
J

i'm not asking much: 3 songs less from ROTT replaced by
-bigmouth strikes again
-there is a light that never goes out
-everyday is like sunday

would be perfect for me.
then if he wants to drop "ask"...

Only using song he's so far played on this tour we could have a show that ran;

Stop Me If You Think That You've Heard This One Before
First Of The Gang To Die
In The Future When All's Well
On The Streets I Ran
Still Ill
Trouble Loves Me
I Like You
How Soon Is Now
To Me You Are A Work Of Art
The Youngest Was The Most Loved
Irish Blood, English Heart
I Have Forgiven Jesus
Life Is A Pigsty
I Just Want To See The Boy Happy
Ganglord
I Will See You In Far Off Places
There Is A Light That Never Goes Out
----
Suedehead

18 Songs, everyone's happy, bish bash bosh, job's a goodun.

I'm going to get my tuppeny 'a'peth in even though I don't attend any of the concerts! I would have thought that it is irrelevant what Morrissey includes in his setlist. I would be attending for the live experience itself. He could sing Mary Had A Little Lamb for me, and I would enjoy it. I think some people feel that he has to take an equal selection of songs from all his albums and do them in chronological order. Why? Yamaha

and wants to sing them...probably has his mind set on what songs he's going to play for the entire tour. .You go for the experience of seeing him live and if he plays your favorite songs thats always an added plus.
Stay home and listen to the cds if u are worried what he's going to play. People are just so lazy , picky and Impatient nowadays, too much info on the net( no surprisesi'd rather i didnt knwo the setlist, but oh well) , have to download everything and not wait. We are all spoil babies. He's always been about what makes him happy and yes he loves his fans, when they respond to his whims.

It´s another chapter in Morrissey´s live work. Frankly, I don´t mind not hearing all those jingly-jangly Viva Hate songs for the considerable future.
Morrissey once famously said that his setlists are purely what he WANTS to sing at that particular junction in his live work.
It´s that prosaic, that simple.
I particularly admire artists who lets us hear what HE wants us to hear.

Reverse psychology: let's all make it clear that we totally love the current setlist. We absolutely do not want to hear any more Smiths numbers or classic Moz tracks from the past. We want to hear Ringleader and more Ringleader and nothing else. By doing this Moz will please people and make people very happy...

no ammount of bickering is going to make an 'apeneth of a difference. he probably enjoys the intrasingence all this is causing.
    he is obviously very fond of the new l.p.which leaves those uncomfortable with it - myself included - free to join the grin and bear it brigade.
  for those who say ditch the b-sides/new stuff.bollocks.how many great smiths/moz shows were littered by unheard/unreleased masterpieces.
  i would be horrified to see any fan assembled set lists as crowd pleasing is a fair measure of a tosspot.

I know I'll sound old here but I want to hear more Viva Hate, Bona Drag, or Kill Uncle stuff on the American tour (whenever that will be). This new cd was ok but not as good as his older stuff.

thetexasbloke

go to youtube.com and you´ll find girlfriend ina coma live, trouble loves me live, all are videos from the current tour.

they also have the show he did at the radio, the importance of being moz documentary, why mexicans love the smiths, lots of videos, interviws and smiths specials like "moz and marr go to school" "we are going mad" or "handsome devil and this charming man live"

all are rare videos, so if you are a die hard fan please check it out.

If you where an artist and have a new record in the market what would you do to promote it? If we want to hear more Morrissey albums, we have to let him promote it

Why the hell should he keep singing songs from twenty years ago? Has Morrissey ever tried to please the masses?
He is not Tony Hadley.
I would be disheartened if he ever started shaping himself according to other peoples tastes and ideas.
Yeah, we all love The Smiths songs, but I'm still interested in his evolution.

just getting behind morrissey and saying "people shouldn't complain about it" is really bloody dumb. if you like the setlist, good for you, i'm not trying to suggest you should be forced into disliking it. if people dont like the setlist, it's not cos they aren't 'real fans' or something, it's cos they have the knowledge and conviction to be able to confidently say that the setlist morrissey is playing night after night falls short of his previous live concerts and also seems out of touch with his fanbase. rather than simply "giving the fans what they want" which seemingly half the people on here are scared of or think is the worst thing ever, just respecting the fanbase enough to play a setlist which would include more favourites and more interesting songs of the past as opposed to song after song from the new album would hardly turn moz into a puppet prostitute.

are the fans that like the setlist also sado-masochists? do they like to travel hundreds of miles and spend vasts amounts of money to be able to stand in front of him for 75mins, regardless of what he sings? that's hero worship to extreme levels, i'd say.

if morrissey doesn't want to belt out all his old 'hits' or 'classics' then he also has the opportunity to play different album tracks from the past instead, or even some b-sides. the emphasis should really be on keeping the gigs uptempo and engaging enough that fans dont end up getting bored. it's borderline hilarious that moz only plays for 75mins and STILL manages to bore and lose sections of the crowd during such a short gig.

if questioning his decision en masse doesn't have any effect on what he plays, then i think that's a sad reflection of morrissey's personality. there has to be some kind of compromise between doing what you want and doing what people paid to come and see, surely?

i have no doubt that he wont switch the setlist up enough in the festival gigs, and there will be the inevitable lull in the crowd and lots of non fans sniggering at an old guy who is boring everybody, as opposed to a moz on form belting out 'glamourous glue' and his best songs which render the other anaemic bands at the festival horribly redundant. his new album doesn't do that at all. in fact, if another singer replaced him on it i think the vast majority of people who say they 'love' it would change their tune.

Although boring, the set-list isn't the biggest problem. The problem is Morrissey's appalling lack of professionalism. In my 23 years as a fan, I've been through it all: Cancelled gigs, halfhearted performances and concerts where he has stormed off the stage in one of his regular tantrums.

The fact of the matter is that he has never had to push himself or raise his game, as he has always been able to rely on the unquestioning adoration of the fans. Yet I have never seen any other artist show so little appreciation of the huge efforts and expenses so many of us are willing to go through in order to see him perform.

For me, the experience at The Sage in Gateshead last weekend was the straw that broke the camel's back. I'm fed up with leaving a Morrissey gig feeling disappointed and disillusioned. From now on, I will only go to see artists who actually respect their audience, even if those artists may be less talented than Moz.

The point of the tour is that ROTT has been released and we want to hear this live. Morrissey and the band also want to play it live.

I don't know what the problem is ? Obviously, some people want to hear other songs, but surely the point of the tour is that ROTT is one of the most amazing albums of the past few years, completely outclassing Morrissey's own YATQ (which was good) plus Embrace and X&Y and all of the other contenders. So if you don't want to listen to ROTT songs, just don't go.

Spare a thought for those in the US who are going to have to wait for the next album. I know 300,000 people in the US who are desperate to listen to ROTT live.

Strawberry.

christ you guys should try being a fan of the band Live .. so many amazing great songs and yet their setlist has hardly changed in nearly 6 years, only difference has been the last 3 albums have been replacing each other on the list, all the rest (year 91-2000, 4 albums worth) stays exactly the same .. absolutely beyond frustrating.

for years Morrissey has written songs about how difficult love is (in one way or another.) The characters of his songs are often yearning for the embrace of real love - or at least to feel included and not outsiders any longer... (with maybe a little postive embracing of the 'outsider' ideal too..)

But now it is the fans who feel unloved and uncherished by the idol.

Only those going to their first gigs (or at least those who don't have years of devotion under their belts) seem to not feel one sort of disappointment or another...

sensitive types at the best of times, we are truly beginning to feel not only neglected, but forgotten.

The problem is that Moz hasn't made a perfect album with no fillers since "Vauxhall And I". So much acclaim for YATQ and ROTT, but I'd happily dispense with at least four tracks on each of them. You Have Killed Me, Life Is A Pigsty, Youngest Was The Most Loved, On The Streets I Ran are beautifully written, performed and produced works of pure genius ... but .. am I the only one who programmes my player to skip I Will See You, Father Who Must Be Killed, To Me You Are A Work Of Art and At Last I Am Born ..? I agree with the poster who called for Billy Budd - to which I'd add Sister I'm A Poet and Boxers. And it would be great to hear Stop Me... over here! Manchester maybe?? Does anyone know whether It's Hard To Walk Tall has ever been played live ..?

I wish he'd give Rebel Rebel and Under Pressure a rest ... hold on, am I on the wrong site ?

The vast majority of Moz fans realize that he is an artist and can write his own set list. If he wants to create a certain mood by the choices of songs and in the order they are in, than by heavens, he will do it. Being in a band, I know that you can't always please 100% of the folks at a gig. You put out there what you feel is a setlist that reflects your current work (a la ROTT) because that's what you spent the entire last year or so of your life doing, and have confidence that your TRUE fans will not complain. I never thought he'd bring out Coma or Still Ill and am tickled he chose to even think about performing those songs.

What makes Moz what he is is his power with words. Why would we be interested in him singing the words of someone else?

Regardless of what we think of the set, the fact that a guy who is a few weeks shy of his 47th birthday is touring and performing most of his current album live is to be commended in a certain way. Most performers at that age are reliant on past glories. Look at the Stones. Of course there is the counter-argument that these people give people what they want.

As much as Morrissey's setlists frustrate me from time to time I do admire the fact that he still thinks he has something to prove as an artist without relying on past glories.

Big question here: Is he succeding?

This is my first morrissey tour.Last year with the rumours of retirement etc i really thought that i would never see him live. So although there may be some songs i would prefer him to sing i am just so happy that i have actually had the chance to see him live.Im sure there are many others who feel this way.I have been to several of the gigs and i have not been disappointed, i have loved every minute of the whole experience.

I certainly want to hear the ROTT tunes live and Subway rocks and some of the earlier stuff is good. I would add/subtract to get more of my personal setlist in there...All in all it's a good gig and I'd take anything in the Boston/NYC area fo'sure! I wonder tho' if the sit-list could be changed nightly like was the case during the Grateful Dead gigs of my youth, perhaps not tho', me thinks it would be too much on the vocals!!???

it would be nice to hear a lot of the songs from the past with all the keyboard/strings that have been missing until the last tour ie. its always sounded very basic in the past with just guitars covering all bases. i would love to hear international blah bla blah with full moog melt down as originally recorded, this goes with many other songs too. they can be fleshed out now.

There are too many songs from Ringleader of the Tormentors on it. As far as I'm concerned one will be too many.

I have never felt so dissappointed in my life. The thing is everyone keeps telling me 'I missed the point of the album' and 'how beautiful' the album is. Lyrically its a load of wank and no one has actually told me that musically its got great songs on it.

Mind you, can't wait to see him performing at Pontins in Skegness in a few years time on the same bill as the Moody Blues and all those other 50 something has been bands that do the circuit. Cos that's where he's gonna be if he releases shite like this album.

just heard suedehead (sparks) remix.

sounds like morrissey re-recorded all the vocals for this.
didn't think he had anything to do with it

terrible mix though.

any ideas, ? fellow mozzites.......................

i am so very pleased that there are enough people who dont like the set list... its about time you all fuck off... i hate queue competition!!!!!!!! and i also hate people who clearly do not care for morrissey wasting the clearly abundant time postnig on a page called morrissey-solow

god.. i think it is time i find a johnny marr board so i can remind everyone what a talentless sod he is.. on a board devoted to him... or maybe ashley simpson's board.. it seems just as logical..

yay for you all though!! :D

Why the brouhaha about the play-list? It makes sense at this time.
For the disbelieving malcontants, practise thus: “God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; courage to change the things I can; and wisdom to know the difference.”

it's so great to have a poll I suggested put on here again. first one in 06 so far! i had two put on in 05, two in 04, one in 03, three in 02, ten in 01 and none in 00. it's quite hard to get one on these days.

I voted for 'it's OK' in the poll but it was still great to hear moz live this year. maybe it will be better setlist in leg 2 of the tour but OK setlist does not neccessarily mean OK concert.

MAL

If you are not happy with the set list, then go and see a Smiths or Moz tribute band - they are bound to play the crowd pleasers.

The current set-list either works or fails as a whole. Rather than moaning, wouldn't it be more interesting to consider 'why' this group of songs have been chosen.

dont get me wrong, i went to the first manchester date and the lowry and loved it, but the setlist doesn't do him justice. i love ROTT but think now would be the time for him to showcase his back catalogue a bit better. I met loads of young people (under 25's) at the gig who had just got in to Moz, and who don't know some of his best songs.

my dream set list

I will see you in far off places (cracking album and live opener)
Irish Blood, English Heart
You Have Killed Me
Bigmouth Strikes Again
In The Future when all's well
Suedehead
Disappointed
Speedway
the youngest was the most loved
Trouble Loves Me
Boy Racer
Life Is A Pigsty
still ill
the father who must be killed
dear god please help me
How Soon Is Now?
Everyday is like sunday
there is a light....

Morrissey, at the moment, is in a position of strength where he has more freedom to do what he wants, and he wants to take this opporutnity to show he is not just a parody of himself, he is still a vital and producing artist. And that is what he is doing on the tour so far. I wouldn't be surprised if the Palladium set lists are quite different as those dates have DVD/live CD written all over them. I've seen this tour and I will probably never hear most of those songs live again afterwards, and that will be something to remember. Hearing Suedehead again wouldn't be as memorable, but it probably would be more fun.

Cazza

I mean, give me a break. Be happy that he's still touring. What are you gonna do when he throws in the towel? Every song on the tour is special to someone in the crowd and to Moz be happy he's sharing it with and singing it to you aswell.
Im still waiting for him to do "FreeByrd"

He does far too many of the jangle-along mediocre strums which ROTT contains - The Youngest Was The Most Loved (truly average) I Just Want To See The Boy Happy (take it or leave it) and On The Streets I Ran (awful lyrics) -

Last I heard, Morrissey is not a juke box.

Anyone remember juke box jury? Jeysus Christ on a bike!!!!!

if you want to rock out and hear up tempo songs, then go see a cover band. its the only, and last chance you'll get to hear: interesting drug, glamorous glue, sing your life, etc.

of the new Keane single!
Hmm, wondered where they got the idea for that title from!!!
J

I always enjoy hearing the new stuff Mozzer brings out; it just keeps getting better and beter. Any old classics are a bonus - Still Ill, Girlfriend In A Coma, How Soon Is Now.
As Mozzer has said he only sings what he wants t sing; and who knows better than the man himself?!

Moz needs to play a selection of old solo tracks together with songs from the new album. I'd also like to hear some quieter Smiths songs (Well I Wonder, Back to the Old House, Stretch Out and Wait, etc). As for the old solo stuff, perhaps Yes, I am Blind, Disappointed, I Know Very Well How I Got My Name, etc. As an afterthought, I'd really love him to do a special acoustic session as I feel that his voice is often drowned out by the loud guitars, drums and other instruments.

If Moz plays a set like this at V (which he basically deffo will) then everyone is going to just think wot the hell is this? As most V headliners are acts who your average person in the street could name a few hits of. Having Moz headlining the fest seems very very odd to me. He would be better suited to headling the 2nd or even 3rd stages. Perhaps they are paying him a lot to play or something?

dream set list
I want the one I cant have
you have killed me
I wanna to see the boy happy
on the streets
Dagnam dave
boy racer
suedehead
This charming man
Now my heart is full
my life is a succession
Irish blood
FOTGTD
Sing your life
Theres a light
reel around the fountain

council at mansonusa has now opened thanks to user morrissey, the life is a pigsty discussion.

you are nvited as long as you don´t insult neither morrissey or marilyn manson.

that´s it bitches, it´s another option, because this poll is getting kinda slow...

Here's a long list of songs I'd love to see him do on tour & of course not all these songs each night. Mix them up different nights:

Jeane
I Keep Mine Hidden
Still Ill
I Don't Owe You Anything
Girl Afraid
Rusholme Ruffians
I Want The One I Can't Have
What She Said
Nowhere Fast
Well I Wonder
Barbarism Begins At Home
Bigmouth Strikes Again
The Boy With The Thorn In His Side
Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others
Sweet & Tender Hooligan
You Just Haven't Earned it Yet, Baby
Ask
Rubber Ring
I Started Something...
Let The Right One Slip In
It's Hard To Walk Tall When You're Small
(I'm) The End Of The Family Line
We'll Let You Know
Certain People I Know
Speedway
The Boy Racer
The Operation
Alma Matters
Roy's Keen
I Have Forgiven Jesus
How Can Anybody Possibly Know How I feel?
I Will See You In far-Off Places
You Have Killed Me
The Youngest Was The Most Loved
Life Is A Pigsty
I'll Never Be Anybody's Hero Now

I know that's a lot but if he were to do 20 songs
every time he plays, just pick any of these & choose a few different songs each night. Also,
don't always start off with the same song every time (like, "First of The Gang To Die") or the encore being the same for a long time (like, "There Is A Light" or "Irish Blood..")
Enough of me blabbing. BYE!

I don`t know why your moaning about it, you should be happy that he actually played for you, he could have said no after all.

This Charming Man
First of the Gang to Die
We Hate it When Our Friends Become Successful
Suedehead
The Youngest Was the Most Loved
Everyday Is Like Sunday
Trouble Loves Me
Sing Your Life
You Have Killed Me
Sweet and Tender Hooligan
Unloveable
The More You Ignore Me
Life Is a Pigsty
The Boy Racer
Jack the Ripper
I Don't Mind if You Forget Me
Now My Heart is Full
What Difference Does it Make
The National Front Disco
(strobe lights, feedback, smoke, Goodbye)
Encore 1 Speedway
Encore 2 I Know its Over

Would anyone have a problem sitting through this concert?

Not that I care that much about Morrissey anymore, it is just traditional for me to complain about his setlist whenever he comes around. I beleive that Still Ill and Girlfriend In A Coma is the only new O S that MOZ is playing. Not all that exciting for me but I guess it is a matter of personal preferance. I think he should always play at least 1 song from each of his solo album era's. I am looking forward mostly to seeing Life Is A Pigsty, and Trouble Loves Me. I would like to see him bring back Playboys, Do Your Best And Don't Worry, Please Please Please, and of course anything from Kill Uncle (and yes I am well aware that he hates it and most of you hate it). And for the new Old Stuff why does it always have to be Smiths songs, why not play some of the never played solo stuff such as Lucky Lisp, Bengali, Dial A Cliche, Ordinary Boys, Southpaw, Payroll, and I'd Love To.